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Post by Ninja Chris on Feb 11, 2009 15:34:54 GMT -5
Well, practice makes perfect ;D, and those notches look to be about right except for the fact that they're pretty close to the ground. It sounds like you plan on making a full setup in your backyard, and I still have yet to secure my cliffhanger in the ground haha. Anyway, I hope all your pullups pay off, and you can complete it soon. Thank you. Truly And not so much MY backyard... I live in an apartment complex. I can only do so much without attracting attention... I'm pushing it with my obstacles as-is. The salmon ladder is actually at a friends house on the other side of town.
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Post by japantv1210 on Feb 11, 2009 23:51:24 GMT -5
No problem. I'll do anything to help boost another trainee's confidence and try to help them achieve kanzenseiha ;D. I'm lucky though, since my parents (I'm too cheap to move out or afford a room in college haha, so I live with them (for now)) will allow a descent amount of space in my backyard for some obstacles. Man, I really have to get that cliffhanger up. It's too bad it's going to get cold again around in Baltimore soon.
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Post by Ninja Chris on Feb 12, 2009 2:25:33 GMT -5
I have a cliffhanger, but it's crappy quality, and I highly doubt it would support my weight. And since it's directly attached into the deck from the people upstairs, if it broke, I would have such a huge fine! Haha... I'd like to make a real one someday though, but I surely don't have the grip for it. Not a chance! I need a way to get it up, but I'm working on it. Go build it! Do what I do: Progress slightly building it each day, and TAKE PICTURES, which you put online. That not only gets others interested, but it 'fuels your fire' to finish making it, and actually want to try it!
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Post by japantv1210 on Feb 12, 2009 16:09:01 GMT -5
Well, I've tried it before, but it was extremely unstable since it's on an A-frame type structure unsupported. The ledge to grip was also leaning downhill a bit, so I was basically grabbing onto it with it leaning down hill haha. I couldn't even get up to the top of the slanted ledge haha. I need to first waterproof it by painting it and whatnot. Then, I need to dig four holes in the ground to keep the four posts supporting the structure there, and I'll probably have to fill them a little with some concrete to keep them there. In the end, I think I'm probably going to finish this over Spring Break (Im a procrastinator and excuse maker haha). I'm not really doing much, and what I have to do shouldn't take too long. Plus, it should be warmer, which I love, and hopefully the hard soil around my house will be gone so I can dig more easily. I could get some pictures of what I have so far though. It's resting in my garage haha.
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Post by Badalight on Feb 13, 2009 0:06:05 GMT -5
I built mine in like 15 minutes :0
But it's really hard, I suggest getting some sort of Sasuke spray to actually spray the obstacle down, because after a few weeks it gets real slippery. or not so much slippery, but the wood isn't as rough anymore, and it's just hard to hold onto.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Feb 13, 2009 0:17:55 GMT -5
What? Am I the only person on the whole site who hasn't built a Salmon Ladder or something!?
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Post by talledega7 on Feb 13, 2009 0:25:42 GMT -5
I haven't either.
Then again, I also don't train.....
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Post by RiderLeangle on Feb 13, 2009 0:39:12 GMT -5
Let me rephrase that. Am I the only one here who trains who doesn't have a Salmon Ladder or something!?
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Post by Badalight on Feb 13, 2009 0:55:02 GMT -5
What? Am I the only person on the whole site who hasn't built a Salmon Ladder or something!? I'm talking about my cliffhanger you dunce.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Feb 13, 2009 1:00:03 GMT -5
I thought building one in 15 minutes sounded like a bad idea.
But damn that conversation must have shifted somewhere.
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Post by Badalight on Feb 13, 2009 1:03:48 GMT -5
Yep, built my salmon ladder in 15 minutes. It looks like s***.
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Post by Ninja Chris on Feb 13, 2009 2:25:26 GMT -5
Haha... what? I wanna see!
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Post by Badalight on Feb 13, 2009 18:16:08 GMT -5
I was kidding, said it because Rider though I was talking about my Salmon Ladder when I mentioned I built my cliffhanger in 15 minutes.
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Post by Ninja Chris on Feb 13, 2009 23:20:35 GMT -5
Ah... gotcha. That's too bad, I was actually looking forward to seeing it
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Post by supersheep on Feb 14, 2009 21:20:48 GMT -5
I did something creative today...
Since a couple of you were wondering what the measurements are on the salmon ladder, i used some basic trig to find it out.. I got...
Small gap: 10.5 in = 26.67 cm Big Gap: 16.1 in = 40.9 cm
Keep in mind, the measurements if it were a round number would almost certainly be in centimeters, not inches. These numbers are NOT exact but they are within 5-10%, so my best estimate would be that the small gap is 25cm and the big gap is 40cm. If anyone wants to see my work I can provide a picture.
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Post by Ninja Chris on Feb 14, 2009 23:49:43 GMT -5
Hey, please! How'd you come across that? And I'd definitely be interested!
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Post by supersheep on Feb 15, 2009 1:32:40 GMT -5
the picture of my work got very badly messed up when i saved it, but i'll just explain it and i'll redo it if you want to see.
I freezed a frame from Sasuke21 of Nagano standing straight up under the salmon ladder, and zoomed it in. Nagano is 63 inches tall, which i then measured how many pixels that was. It came to 90. I then measured the gaps between the rungs, this was more difficult because of shadows, poor lighting and just the fact its hard to tell exactly where the bar sits.
Anyway, I approximated that there were 23 pixels in the big gap and 15 pixels in the small gap. Since Nagano was standing in a straight line relative to the rungs, I did not adjust based on sin and cosine fucntions of the angles since they would just keep it the same with a 90 degree angle.
Using basic algebraic ratios, i calculated the measurments based on their size relative to Nagano's height.
Keep in mind, this calculation was done based on the assumption that Nagano is 5'3, if this is not correct, please tell and I'll adjust accordingly.
Also, as a good scientist should, I will also take measurements using Takeda, Miyazaki, and any other whose height's we know, and average them to come up with a final answer.
Hope that was an interesting read, I'll finish my research either later tonight or tomorow.
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Post by supersheep on Feb 15, 2009 2:36:01 GMT -5
OK to avoid taking too much space, i'll post all my data on this message: I'll convert them all cm later. With the exception of the first, which is noted below, all the following are calculations including the rung. aka: The distance from the bottom run 2 to the top of rung 3.
There are various reasons for the variation in data, such as height (Is Levi really 5'11 or is he 5'10.5? etc.), picture quality (if i zoom in too much to get it exact the colors are so distorted i can't see anything), and the fact that i can only use integers.
*Nagano 21: Assumed 5'3 ( I think this was done WITHOUT the height of the rungs added in) Small gap: 10.5 in = 26.67 cm Big Gap: 16.1 in = 40.9 cm
Nagasaki 18: Assumed 5'7 Small gap = 12.8 in Big gap = 17.3 in
Takeda 18: Assumed 5'7 Small gap = 11.8 in Big gap = 16.3 in
Nagano 18: Assumed 5'3 Small gap = 12.8 in Big gap = 18.6 in
Nagano 21 - Rexamined with rungs Assumed 5'3 Small Gap: 12.6 in Big gap: 18.9 in
Matsunaga 21 - Assumed 5'4 Small gap: 12.1 in Big gap: 17.8 in
Levi 21 - Assumed 5'11 Small gap: 12.5 in Big gap: 17.4 in
Takeda 21 - Assumed 5'7 Small gap: 12.2 Big gap: 16.5 More to come....
Current Average: Small gap: 12.4 in = 31.5 cm Big gap: 17.53 in = 44.45 cm *Not included in average
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Post by arsenette on Feb 15, 2009 4:58:02 GMT -5
Yep.. I know I suck at math.. but that's impressive Great job!
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Post by Ninja Chris on Feb 15, 2009 8:51:06 GMT -5
So, so far it does in-fact seem that 12" and 18" between the rungs is right on the money? Great job, very cool! You win! Good day sir!
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