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Post by lostinube on Mar 28, 2010 23:21:55 GMT -5
tv8ch.blog98.fc2.com/blog-entry-1870.html7.5 It got slapped around by the Ladies World Figure Skating Championship Free Skate (which I thought was tape-delayed) which won the night with a 22.6. That's understandable. Getting doubled up by an airing of Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (15.4) is weird. As is getting beat by the last episode of a show that is basically about celebrities in the country by .2. It lost to every show that it ran against except one: Solomon Ryu. Which is hilarious because Solomon Ryu? It's produced by Monster 9. Lowest SASUKE rating ever? Lowest SASUKE/KUNOICHI rating ever. KUNOICHI laughs at a 7.5. TBS may not notice the rating since it scored big with the Kameda fight on Saturday night.
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Post by arsenette on Mar 28, 2010 23:41:31 GMT -5
OUCH........
For the love of God I cannot believe they put it up against Ladies final with Mao Asada...
That result will greatly affect a few things though. At the very least.. placement of Sasuke 26 on the lineup... they already allowed ANW 2 so we know there will be a 26.. but if this trend continues...
Maybe people are tired of watching it? It is 13 years old now.. /cries..
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Post by wolf4537 on Mar 29, 2010 0:44:12 GMT -5
WOW that sucks. But it was put at like the worst timeslot ever. Pretty much the equivalent of how they put Bowling here in America against the NFL on Sundays every week. I hope this doesn't affect the future of the show...  |
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Post by lostinube on Mar 29, 2010 1:01:02 GMT -5
Losing to the Women's Final was probably a given on the part of TBS - it's not like the final was suddenly scheduled or anything like that - but losing to almost every other program on the schedule is pretty mind boggling. TBS did take Saturday and Sunday so they may not care all that much in the long run.
Wasn't everyone here clamoring for more Sunday SASUKEs?
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Post by VenusHeadTrap on Mar 29, 2010 1:14:58 GMT -5
Not only are 25's ratings a huge step backwards for the era, it's a step backwards into a large chasm.
I expected marginally low ratings as always, because they are usually so critical on Sasuke, but this is a surprise.
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Post by arsenette on Mar 29, 2010 1:58:11 GMT -5
Losing to the Women's Final was probably a given on the part of TBS - it's not like the final was suddenly scheduled or anything like that - but losing to almost every other program on the schedule is pretty mind boggling. TBS did take Saturday and Sunday so they may not care all that much in the long run. Wasn't everyone here clamoring for more Sunday SASUKEs? Gah I agree.. though I don't like that they did that in the first place.. meh.. I guess you are stuck with where they put you since this is basically a throwaway show in the grand scheme of things. I could care less when it shows.. day-wise (you know that  ) since I'll watch it whenever. I'm more interested in what it's up against. Earlier Sasuke's got hammered by Quiz Hexagon so anything away from that was fine by me. What the numbers suggest is not even how good/bad THIS show was.. it was the fact that they don't care anymore. Japanese audience just didn't want to watch it. Period. To lose to a movie.. LOL They weren't even close in being 2nd or 3rd.. that's.. sad.. very sad. Without the support of the Japanese viewership this might be it for Sasuke in the next tourney. Several things have to be taken into account though: a) Does TBS care about the ratings or are they basically keeping it alive so they can milk syndication money around the world (basically keeping it alive so they can shop around to other countries - half their promotion was their boast that it's all over the world now). b) How much do they want to keep investing in Sasuke given the fact that they are about to open another Muscle Park in an obscure location in Hokkaido? Kinda "what's the point if there is no show they are promoting". c) Did not having "stars" like well-known names in Japanese television (whether they be athlete or entertainer) the reason why people didn't want to watch? d) was the close proximity to the last 2 other Sasuke's just over-saturation this time around? e) .. was it the shoes.. *gasp* All in all I'm depressed.. this is going to be a long 6 months waiting for Sasuke 26 since we know THAT is coming at the very least. There might not be a Sasuke 27. |
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Post by lostinube on Mar 29, 2010 2:03:53 GMT -5
Staff telling someone that the next SASUKE is in six months is not the same thing as an official announcement.
As for at least question c) since celebrities/talentos are encouraged to promote themselves on their blogs/the internet and even the most minor celebs have their followings the hype surrounding the show was not nearly as high as 23 or 24.
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Post by arsenette on Mar 29, 2010 3:10:27 GMT -5
Staff telling someone that the next SASUKE is in six months is not the same thing as an official announcement. As for at least question c) since celebrities/talentos are encouraged to promote themselves on their blogs/the internet and even the most minor celebs have their followings the hype surrounding the show was not nearly as high as 23 or 24. I was referring to ANW2 filming in July'ish (at least it will be announced in April when the next ANW is (not an if but a when). The 6 months thing was definitely from Ryo's mention but the idea that 26 was secured only because of ANW is the only reason why I said that. Even with that said.. we could theoretically have seen the last Sasuke.. period.. I do agree with the fact that the hype was low. I think one main reason as a) there weren't as many high profile but mostly b) the fact that they TBS worked so hard to clamp down on spoilers it practically snuffed out all promotion. Even on TBS... they didn't do anything until the last week. Seems for the 5 weeks we knew it was taped.. there was almost no build up for it. Which I believe was very unusual. Usually I check blogland™ and it's abuzz with activity.. it was very quiet almost dead this time around. |
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Post by artyfowljr on Mar 29, 2010 7:38:56 GMT -5
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I hope this doesn't go on with Sasuke 26 (I still think...say...hope...there will be one). Otherwise, unless G4's money is enough to keep it up (but then G4 would have complete control over it, damn)...I don't even want to type it...
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Post by lars072 on Mar 29, 2010 8:07:12 GMT -5
And the ratings wil be worse next time around unless TBS get their act together. I thought it was the worst SASUKE in quite some time for different reasons although I may be in the minority here.
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Post by jfeathe on Mar 29, 2010 9:36:31 GMT -5
I read somewhere that Sunday is the most popular day to watch tv. With that being said, the channel managers or whatever you call them are going to air their best shows so they can compete. Even though Sasuke was a "special" is wasn't as "special" as a figure skating world championships.
I think they crammed too many Sasukes in a too short amount of time. The fact that it was a renewal didn't have any effect because a casual viewer doesn't understand why that's unique. If they would have aired it in September (9 months later) I think they ratings would have skyrocketed. Having it less than 3 months after the last tournament honestly removed some of the anticipation.
People who don't care much for "sports" (Sasuke included) are going to watch the movie every time. That's why in America during football season, there is almost always a movie playing on the network that doesn't air games. They seem to do great during those times.
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Post by lars072 on Mar 29, 2010 10:11:22 GMT -5
I read somewhere that Sunday is the most popular day to watch tv. With that being said, the channel managers or whatever you call them are going to air their best shows so they can compete. Even though Sasuke was a "special" is wasn't as "special" as a figure skating world championships. I think they crammed too many Sasukes in a too short amount of time. The fact that it was a renewal didn't have any effect because a casual viewer doesn't understand why that's unique. If they would have aired it in September (9 months later) I think they ratings would have skyrocketed. Having it less than 3 months after the last tournament honestly removed some of the anticipation. People who don't care much for "sports" (Sasuke included) are going to watch the movie every time. That's why in America during football season, there is almost always a movie playing on the network that doesn't air games. They seem to do great during those times. I think that's a good point. I think over-saturation played a part and maybe they need to go back to twice a year again. And if you're going to call it "renewal" then renew for pete's sake. |
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Post by arsenette on Mar 29, 2010 11:14:30 GMT -5
I read somewhere that Sunday is the most popular day to watch tv. With that being said, the channel managers or whatever you call them are going to air their best shows so they can compete. Even though Sasuke was a "special" is wasn't as "special" as a figure skating world championships. I think they crammed too many Sasukes in a too short amount of time. The fact that it was a renewal didn't have any effect because a casual viewer doesn't understand why that's unique. If they would have aired it in September (9 months later) I think they ratings would have skyrocketed. Having it less than 3 months after the last tournament honestly removed some of the anticipation. People who don't care much for "sports" (Sasuke included) are going to watch the movie every time. That's why in America during football season, there is almost always a movie playing on the network that doesn't air games. They seem to do great during those times. I think that's a good point. I think over-saturation played a part and maybe they need to go back to twice a year again. And if you're going to call it "renewal" then renew for pete's sake. Albeit you do mention about the content of Sasuke 25 being the case though.. it's not the problem. No one watched enough to complain about what was in it.. that's the major problem at this point.. |
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Post by Badalight on Mar 29, 2010 11:15:18 GMT -5
Lars, this has nothing to do with the contents of the tournament, so just shut up please? Thank you.
To be honest even though this is a bad thing, I don't think THIS spells the end for Sasuke. Now if 26 does bad the show would be in trouble... but they are still making a lot of money off of it.
Why build a new muscle park if Sasuke was just going to get canceled months after in was finished?
I think because of G4 and all the other countries airing Sasuke, it's earning M9 and TBS quite a lot of money, so even if ratings are bad it'll probably stay for a little while. I personally even at this point could see it going to 30.
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Post by arsenette on Mar 29, 2010 11:27:56 GMT -5
Nothing stops them from making money strictly on syndication .. or even coming up with another show.. so yes I do see them canceling it. Now all the talk about 25 being the last one when they decided to do the back to back to back ones is making me nervous again. The ratings were catastrophic.. not bad.. catastrophic. As Ube said... depends on what the goal for TBS was. If they knew they were not going to get the ratings this time around then Sasuke can survive another cycle.. But, if they dropped to single digits (like they just did) and they had a threshold to stay above a certain number.. then this is disastrous.
G4 is only out to make G4 stuff so they could be perfectly happy making an American Sasuke called ANW since they proved they only were interested in ANW to begin with by preempting 23 outright last year. Right now G4 is in disaster recovery when the fanbase freaked out on them.. but the mere fact that they are doing open call again and are determined to try to recreate Sasuke here in the USA but with Americans only leads me to believe that they are doing a short term to appease us but going back to their original plan to replace Sasuke with ANW here in the USA.
Ultimately it boils down to whether TBS minds this as a hit or not. The show is 13 years old and they just got a winner in Sasuke 24. I sound like a broken record but this is a Japanese show and if the Japanese viewing audience doesn't want to watch it anymore.. then it's over (or at the very least it's last legs). Given the fact that there was controversy with Yuuji with 'da shoes' as I call it.. it might actually be serious that people stopped watching because they didn't like the new generation.. The next couple months will really be an indication as to where this is going. Kunoichi is already dead (especially with the exact rating as this one ironically..) so maybe they could stop this and just fall back on money from syndication. I know I will stop watching if M9/TBS no longer produces this show and they branch out to foreign versions.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 29, 2010 11:40:13 GMT -5
As much as I hate to say it.. But why are you guys thinking ANW2 is confirmation for Sasuke 26? Did you even SEE ANW1? It seemed like G4 was pretty much trying to make their own version.. Seems like sending people to 23 was just a bonus for what G4 wanted..
But I don't think 1 tournament with extremely bad ratings is going to mean the end. They just know to see their time slot, promote it more and try to get in more celebrities.. they were trying to make more of a focus on having someone from everywhere on there and alot of those people confirmed before we didn't even see..
And I think this broadcast was more for the people who were going to watch anyways (And by that, I mean us). It was only returning competitors to make it to stage 2, no one new to stage 2. And even then most people probably watch for comedians and celebrities anyways, And look how few comedians and actors we had there, Hell.. I'm sure even C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER Sato has to help with ratings..
And I think putting the Navi on only a few hours before Sasuke had to have hurt too.. Consider what the Navi is.. It's just like a 1 hour commercial for Sasuke... And consider that it was airing a few hours before so the navi was up against shows htat people would rather watch.. so TBS pretty much has to put the navi on a sooner date from the broadcast and have a different time slot for Sasuke.. and as much as I didn't want to say this but have more celebrities in there.. Maybe they could make time for them not having to spend about 2-3 minutes on each profile showing about the city they're from in adition to the usual profile..
As for the issue of what's in it.. I didn't like the course either, but how would people know if they don't even watch..
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Post by arsenette on Mar 29, 2010 11:47:08 GMT -5
Actually the placement of Navi is kinda irrelevant. They have always had it close to the day in the past. Sasuke 24 was kinda the exception in this case. It's usually the same day - at least from the past few years it's been the same day.
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Post by Gavo on Mar 29, 2010 11:50:45 GMT -5
It lost to every show that it ran against except one: Solomon Ryu. Which is hilarious because Solomon Ryu? It's produced by Monster 9 Bad day for M9 |
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Post by arsenette on Mar 29, 2010 11:51:16 GMT -5
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 29, 2010 12:22:13 GMT -5
Actually the placement of Navi is kinda irrelevant. They have always had it close to the day in the past. Sasuke 24 was kinda the exception in this case. It's usually the same day - at least from the past few years it's been the same day. 22 and 23 it was the day before wasn't it? |
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