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Post by wolf4537 on Jan 2, 2011 9:52:31 GMT -5
I think this tournament ranked right up with Sasuke 19 in terms of how difficult it was. Even though there were a lot of clears, the structure of the obstacles were so different compared to 19 that a lot of people didn't expect certain things to happen, ESPECIALLY with the rolling escargot eliminating several all stars.
Sasuke 19 had an easier jumping spider if you ask me, cause it seemed like the wall was higher than ever in this tournament and this was the first time that Nagano actually failed to stick to the wall, and Yuuji almost did the same thing.
Even though only 2 people cleared in 19, at least the obstacles seemed easier in the 2nd stage and 3rd stage, though there were still 2 obstacles in that tournament that we never saw attempted, plus we still haven't seen any of the obstacles attempted after the UCH in this tournament.
So what do you guys think?
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Post by quasikoz on Jan 2, 2011 9:55:01 GMT -5
I put 19. The Jumping Spider was visibly further away.
Plus, the new-ness of the Salmon Ladder was a much bigger hurdle that didn't get overcome.
If you add up all the obstacles together, I guess you could say 26. But I just think 19 was waaay scarier.
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Post by wolf4537 on Jan 2, 2011 9:55:55 GMT -5
I put 19. The Jumping Spider was visibly further away. Plus, the new-ness of the Salmon Ladder was a much bigger hurdle that didn't get overcome. If you add up all the obstacles together, I guess you could say 26. But I just think 19 was waaay scarier. Yeah, especially with the flying chute from #19. That obstacle alone was downright ridiculous.
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Post by obakemono on Jan 2, 2011 9:56:16 GMT -5
For the time, 19. I actually think 26 had one of the easier first stages in recent memory, but there was a giant collective c*** up.
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Post by VenusHeadTrap on Jan 2, 2011 9:57:44 GMT -5
26 because of the third and final stages.
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Post by YoDaUO on Jan 2, 2011 10:02:44 GMT -5
If you are referring to the first stage then id say they are about the same. If you are referring to all the stages - 26.
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Post by thatoneuser on Jan 2, 2011 10:17:38 GMT -5
Oops, misread question and voted SASUKE 26...
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Post by richie137 on Jan 2, 2011 10:32:48 GMT -5
19 was still harder, it had the harder obstacles and a lot of them were newer or harder, 26 is the second hardest right behind it, it was hard but not insane like 19.
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Post by dudesky1000 on Jan 2, 2011 10:36:41 GMT -5
UCH... 'nuff said. If you think not... just think about how many people who might have had a shot DIDNT even reach it!
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Post by Badalight on Jan 2, 2011 10:51:22 GMT -5
26 is easily harder. stages 2 and 3 are in their own league apart from 19's. As for stage 1 it's roughly the same, and we can't really say much about the final stage.
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Post by wolf4537 on Jan 2, 2011 10:54:09 GMT -5
26 is easily harder. stages 2 and 3 are in their own league apart from 19's. As for stage 1 it's roughly the same, and we can't really say much about the final stage. I strongly disagree with Stage 1, Sasuke 19 was flat out ridiculous compared to Sasuke 26. For one thing, the flying chute was the most dangerous obstacle on that course in Sasuke 19, and no one had ever attempted the half pipe attack before that tournament. Plus, all the obstacles that were there from Sasuke 18 were modified to be harder, and the time limit was the most strict out of all the competitions if you ask me (besides Sasuke 10).
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Post by Badalight on Jan 2, 2011 11:04:22 GMT -5
Obstacle 1
26 > 19
Obstacle 2
26 < 19
Obstacle 3
26 > 19
Jumping Spider
Roughly the same. At least too close to make a huge difference.
HPA = HPA
Warped wall = Warped wall
flying chute > new obstacles
last obstacle = last obstacle
Time Limit
19 > 26
It's not a HUGE difference at all.
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Post by obakemono on Jan 2, 2011 11:07:18 GMT -5
HPA was harder in 19, and it was new. JS and FS had only been around for one competition and were unexpectedly much harder than previous incarnations. Even with everyone screwing up, 10 passed in 26, compared to 2 in 19, and that's very telling.
EDIT: Many people got hung up on the altered Pole Maze as well, which combined with the strict time limit killed a lot of people.
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Post by Badalight on Jan 2, 2011 11:18:25 GMT -5
I'm not arguing 26 is harder, but I don't believe it's easier by THAT much since they're still pretty similar.
It won't ever make up for the difference in difficulty that stages 2 and 3 bring.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jan 2, 2011 11:35:28 GMT -5
I'm going with too close to call... 19 had the results f**k up and had the new obstacles no one has trained for on that level including the flying chute... On the other hand 26's Jumping Spider was the same height and the Rolling Escargot has to be the hardest obstacle they've had on Sasuke and eliminated many top competitors and gave others trouble.. As far as time limit 130 in 26 vs. 115 in 19 it's damn near even... So it's really tough to call...
And this isn't getting into the skill levels of the competitors... give them the same experience they have at the time with all the accomplishments they've made... Put 19's competitors on 26's course and it'd be a slaughter.. Put 26's competitors on 19's course and the course would be (Most likely be...) slaughtered... so it's kind of a gray area
And this is just stage 1.. I would say Stage 2 and 3 definitely win in terms of difficulty for 26... with the exception of Downhill Jump vs. Slider Drop
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Post by murdog83 on Jan 2, 2011 15:11:06 GMT -5
For the time, 19. I actually think 26 had one of the easier first stages in recent memory, but there was a giant collective c*** up. I agree whole heartedly. I think that as the competitors saw more and more people fail, they got nervous (you could see it), and this caused them to make mistakes I don't think they would normally have made. If there's a Sasuke 27, and the first stage remains more or less the same I think there will be a great number of clears.
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Post by arsenette on Jan 2, 2011 15:43:19 GMT -5
I still have 26 harder overall.
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Post by cole77000 on Jan 2, 2011 16:57:41 GMT -5
I'm going with too close to call... 19 had the results f**k up and had the new obstacles no one has trained for on that level including the flying chute... On the other hand 26's Jumping Spider was the same height and the Rolling Escargot has to be the hardest obstacle they've had on Sasuke and eliminated many top competitors and gave others trouble.. As far as time limit 130 in 26 vs. 115 in 19 it's damn near even... So it's really tough to call... And this isn't getting into the skill levels of the competitors... give them the same experience they have at the time with all the accomplishments they've made... Put 19's competitors on 26's course and it'd be a slaughter.. Put 26's competitors on 19's course and the course would be (Most likely be...) slaughtered... so it's kind of a gray area And this is just stage 1.. I would say Stage 2 and 3 definitely win in terms of difficulty for 26... with the exception of Downhill Jump vs. Slider Drop I gotta agree with Rider on this one. Putting it into perspective, if you ha the competitors form 26 run 19's first stage, we would have way more than just 2 clears. Plus overall stage 2 and 3 are much more difficult.
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Post by RobbyMac on Jan 2, 2011 18:38:19 GMT -5
19's stage 1 is harder. (There were some 20 second + clears in 26, regardless of the difficulties of the obstacles.) You have to beats stage 1 to move onto stage 2 and 3.... so it does matter but it's obvious stages 2 and 3 are harder at 26.
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Post by Badalight on Jan 2, 2011 23:00:57 GMT -5
19's stage 1 is harder. (There were some 20 second + clears in 26, regardless of the difficulties of the obstacles.) You have to beats stage 1 to move onto stage 2 and 3.... so it does matter but it's obvious stages 2 and 3 are harder at 26. Welp you have to beat stages 2 and 3 to get to the 4th, so it matters just as much
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