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Post by davidcampbell on Apr 24, 2010 17:51:41 GMT -5
Says who? Do you have scientific evidence of this? Well it makes sense. You also have to factor in the bungee aspect of the rope climb. The problem with high time limits is that there is more room for someone to "crush" the stage. Yuuji had the potential to clear the Final with 8.5 seconds if he did his 24 performance in 22. I really like a 30 second race up the tower. 40 was ok. If they go above 45 seconds, I'll be very worried. The "bungee" was just someones guess as to why is was called the "G rope", there has never been any evidence to suggest that there is a bungee on the final stage. Of course there's no proof that there isn't a bungee. But like I said before there's reason to believe there is, so why would you think that? Also is looks obvious to me at least just from watching Sasuke that it's a simple rope with no bungee just by the way it moves. And again like I said before, the original notion that there is a bungee on the rope is a mistaken assumption about the "G" in G-rope, it's just some fan's guess.
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Post by scnoi1217 on Apr 24, 2010 17:58:56 GMT -5
Personally, I would hate the Final Stage if it was a single 23m Rope Climb. If that happened, the time limit would most likely be high (the time limit almost certainly wouldn't be 30 seconds because that would mean they would have to climb much faster and longer than Akiyama's pace). Plus, with the time limit so high, the final would be more of a marathon than a sprint. So you'll have some attempts that are great at the start, but then about halfway they are dead and then you have like 20 seconds of wasted time where you know he won't make it. That's why I'm hoping it won't be a single rope climb. Well... wasn't Kanno like that in the Shin-Sasuke final stage? No, at least he made it 3/4 of the way up the tower. I'm talking more about the old Final Stage attempts where people only made it half way up. Those were really boring to watch. At least Kanno showed some speed, and at least had a shot up until the rope climb. The point I'm trying to make is that a single rope climb will be boring to watch. I keep thinking of Nagano in Final Viking. He had a whole minute to climb 10m, yet he couldn't because he was dead tired. I can imagine a single 23m vertical rope climb to be similar. Thus, I think there should be something you can fly up quickly followed by rope climb(s).
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Post by Oti on Apr 24, 2010 19:27:42 GMT -5
I disagree. I think it would be interesting, provided the competitors are actually skilled. And with the new Sasuke, I don't think that will be a problem.
I also don't understand your concern about things being too hard/tiring. The final stage shouldn't have anything quick and easy in it. It should push competitors to their limits. Nagano's loss in Viking shouldn't be blamed on the final stage being too tough. Nagano wasn't hardcore enough. Simple as that. I'm not saying, "O, lol, Nagano loosed! EPIC FAIL! Naganos ghey", but it was a matter stamina and Nagano simply didn't have it.
Because of that, I think it should either be a straight rope climb with a time limit of 30 seconds or something hard followed by a rope climb with an appropriate time limit.
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Post by SRW on Apr 24, 2010 19:31:21 GMT -5
In the end we just concluded G rope mean't GOAL rope.
I think campbell was agreeing with me from his own experiment about what I said about not being able to climb a ladder faster than a spider climb.
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Post by yamfriend on Apr 24, 2010 22:02:58 GMT -5
I thought of an idea for the new Final Stage recently that I think many of you will like. Obstacle 1: Board Climb (a 15-meter-high piece of plywood put vertically and about the width/thickness of the Spider Flip which you hold onto the sides with your hands and climb up it; however, unlike the first half of the Spider Flip, there wouldn't be any footholds for your feet, which you would just put on the face of the plywood) Obstacle 2: Rope Climb (10 meters high) Time Limit: I have absolutely no idea
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Post by Badalight on Apr 24, 2010 22:36:40 GMT -5
That wouldn't be terrible if done right.
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Post by YoDaUO on Apr 24, 2010 22:38:13 GMT -5
Thats not a bad idea yamfriend. Takeda would hate it though. lol
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Post by RiderLeangle on Apr 24, 2010 22:43:29 GMT -5
So pretty much a board that you hold with your legs on and quickly climb up? That's actually not too difficult.. I think it'd make a great final stage
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Post by Badalight on Apr 24, 2010 22:45:24 GMT -5
So pretty much a board that you hold with your legs on and quickly climb up? That's actually not too difficult.. I think it'd make a great final stage If you want to do it fast, you'd need to put your feet on the front of the board, and not hold them onto the sides, while your hands grab the sides. Then you push off with your legs one at a time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2010 23:19:16 GMT -5
I thought of an idea for the new Final Stage recently that I think many of you will like. Obstacle 1: Board Climb (a 15-meter-high piece of plywood put vertically and about the width/thickness of the Spider Flip which you hold onto the sides with your hands and climb up it; however, unlike the first half of the Spider Flip, there wouldn't be any footholds for your feet, which you would just put on the face of the plywood) Obstacle 2: Rope Climb (10 meters high) Time Limit: I have absolutely no idea I actually thought of this before. But I don't think you took the idea from me, cause I don't think I ever posted the idea. (I thought I did, but I can't find it) BUT DON'T THINK I'M TRYING TO DISCREDIT YOU >_> cause I'm not. The only difference is I think it would be cool if half way up the Board Climb, you do a flip to another Board. (Since they can't do the rope transfer, this could possibly work as an alternative.) Here's the pic I made of it. Ignore the 2nd half, I thought i was being clever making that >_> Edit: sasukemaniac.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=s25&thread=1858&page=1 The only reason why I really care is I plan to use this obstacle in my obstacle idea's video, I just don't want people to think I copied from you. :/
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Post by chackpop on Apr 24, 2010 23:29:15 GMT -5
The time limit of that would have to be higher than 40 seconds though. Still, very creative and interesting idea.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Apr 24, 2010 23:37:15 GMT -5
So pretty much a board that you hold with your legs on and quickly climb up? That's actually not too difficult.. I think it'd make a great final stage If you want to do it fast, you'd need to put your feet on the front of the board, and not hold them onto the sides, while your hands grab the sides. Then you push off with your legs one at a time. That's what I was trying to say.. I guess I REALLY suck at typing... :\ But I know exactly what you mean which is exactly what I was saying.. hell.. I was doing it today..
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Post by SRW on Apr 25, 2010 7:09:46 GMT -5
I quite like that spider flipping idea but only change i'd make is have the rope still a single 10 meter rope But have 3 or 4 spider flips beneath it like in the pic.
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Post by Badalight on Apr 25, 2010 10:08:13 GMT -5
Even a single board with no flipping would be fine. 3 or 4 flips would be gratuitous.
I wouldn't want more than 2 to be honest.
Though good job Yamfriend, best idea in this thread I've seen so far. (Besides the obvious single rope climb)
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Post by YoDaUO on Apr 25, 2010 11:35:01 GMT -5
I thought of an idea for the new Final Stage recently that I think many of you will like. Obstacle 1: Board Climb (a 15-meter-high piece of plywood put vertically and about the width/thickness of the Spider Flip which you hold onto the sides with your hands and climb up it; however, unlike the first half of the Spider Flip, there wouldn't be any footholds for your feet, which you would just put on the face of the plywood) Obstacle 2: Rope Climb (10 meters high) Time Limit: I have absolutely no idea I actually thought of this before. But I don't think you took the idea from me, cause I don't think I ever posted the idea. (I thought I did, but I can't find it) BUT DON'T THINK I'M TRYING TO DISCREDIT YOU >_> cause I'm not. The only difference is I think it would be cool if half way up the Board Climb, you do a flip to another Board. (Since they can't do the rope transfer, this could possibly work as an alternative.) Here's the pic I made of it. Ignore the 2nd half, I thought i was being clever making that >_> Edit: sasukemaniac.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=s25&thread=1858&page=1 The only reason why I really care is I plan to use this obstacle in my obstacle idea's video, I just don't want people to think I copied from you. :/ Thats exactly what i was thinking about the final right after I saw 24.
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Post by venomcarnage89 on Apr 25, 2010 12:26:28 GMT -5
Even a single board with no flipping would be fine. 3 or 4 flips would be gratuitous. I wouldn't want more than 2 to be honest. Though good job Yamfriend, best idea in this thread I've seen so far. (Besides the obvious single rope climb) I agree that multiple flips would not be too great an idea, I really like this idea as long as it stays one or two flips, any more is a waste IMO. Though I think I would want at least one flip, a single board without any flips would be too similar to the ladder if you ask me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2010 12:40:23 GMT -5
Hell yeah it needs a flip. M9 has always wanted a "Transfer" part of the final stage. This would be the perfect way to do it.
Also, 2 flips could be dangerous. I mean, if they flip on the 2nd to 3rd board, and they miss, they could hit the 1st board below (Granted the safety rope stops working.)
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Post by wolf4537 on Apr 25, 2010 13:12:40 GMT -5
I'm thinking a net climb, like what the final stage was going to be for Kunoichi 7 I think.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Apr 25, 2010 13:30:08 GMT -5
I'm thinking a net climb, like what the final stage was going to be for Kunoichi 7 I think. Actually at the beginning of the G4 broadcast you see the tower shot which shows it was this metal grid thing Why the G4 broadcast? We don't have a TBS or JET of 7 so no tower shot for us not on G4..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2010 13:36:00 GMT -5
Another idea, which already exists, would be the climbing a ladder, than taking the ladder and putting up upwards to climb another segment.
Basacally, this.
And this
It also shows how fast you can climb a metal ladder. This would be sick as a final stage obstacle imo.
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