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Post by awee1975 on Jan 5, 2010 10:33:06 GMT -5
the "Jyunidantobi" ( wow! you can spell lol ) is more a test of balance. If you have long legs like Levi M, you don't even need to "hop" or balance. Lee En Chi, Levi M & Mr Octopus just reached for the steps. Yeah, maybe only the "last" jump part.
HPA is more upper body strength i believe. This is why most of the women fail there, imagine using your hands & upper body strength holding on to a swinging rope supporting your entire body weight. Yamada could do the HPA easily ( iirc never failed it ) but was pawned by S.Kabe.
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Post by artyfowljr on Jan 5, 2010 11:01:53 GMT -5
Agreed. I didn't think about the long legs lol Also yep, there is a great upper body strength part in the HPA. I meant the running part. And..don't get me wrong, I'm not offended nor angry!Only...women can hold on to a rope, there simply aren't a lot who attempted the HPA (only three, iirc)
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Post by davidyko on Jan 5, 2010 13:49:21 GMT -5
A twisted Warped Wall would basically be the Crooked Wall from 13 to whenever it got taken out. Wasn't failed all that often, unless your name was Akiyama or Shinji Kobayashi. I agree with the idea that some form of the Warped Wall should still be there, though...just I dunno what. Great Wall, but with the end of the rope the same height as the wall now (5.2 m) would be alright, but potentially injury-inducing, if someone grabbed on to the rope, slipped off, and then cracked his tailbone falling down.
As for the whole point about lower body agility though, I have to disagree. Stage 1's always been a more lower body centered stage. 1st obstacle's pretty much always been about lower body (sure, it's easy, but still), and the Jumping Spider...how is that not lower-body oriented?
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jan 5, 2010 13:57:42 GMT -5
A twisted Warped Wall would basically be the Crooked Wall from 13 to whenever it got taken out. Wasn't failed all that often, unless your name was Akiyama or Shinji Kobayashi. I think that meant one where you grab the top and not a rope. Or possibly one that curves up where the top is off to the side making for a failable version.. Think like half of a loop there simply aren't a lot who attempted the HPA (only three, iirc) Luci, That one girl from 22 who I forget her name, Arimatsu Tomomi (Fast-forward in 23). Komiya Rie. I forget if there were any others
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Post by penguincatfish on Jan 5, 2010 18:55:18 GMT -5
They could have the beginning of the one I posted and the rest of the one arty posted! That'd be sweeeeeeeet!
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Post by penguincatfish on Jan 5, 2010 19:13:56 GMT -5
Not sure what thread this would go in... but I have an idea for the last 3rd stage obstacle. It would have two rails like the Pipe Slider but they're a bit closer together, probably 12-15 inches apart and you'd have to hold onto a towel-thing hanging from it and get to the other side with the same distance as the Pipe Slider. Something like this [a href=" "][/a][/url] So this is made to really destroy your grip if you somehow made it that far. And for a future update to it, and for added difficulty, the rails would provide more friction so you can put them at an incline with a little stopper at the end for some help. If they were too close together then someone would be able to hold both sides together as if it were just one fat rope or something. Not sure how hard this would be but it's just something I had floating in my head as I was coming with more uses for my Iron Gym. We can't call it the Curtain Slider, and the Towel Slider doesn't sound so menacing either...
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Post by rcplanes59 on Jan 5, 2010 19:44:39 GMT -5
*cough*
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Post by TCM on Jan 5, 2010 20:25:57 GMT -5
*cough* *facepalms* He means take the towel as shown in the picture, grab the two ends, and basically pipe slider it, you have the curtain slider with no momentum. Not exactly the same.
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Post by rcplanes59 on Jan 5, 2010 20:38:25 GMT -5
Yeah, I know, but my picture was worth posting even still. It's exactly a Curtain Slider with no momentum
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Post by penguincatfish on Jan 5, 2010 21:24:08 GMT -5
I like having to hold both sides apart. This way if you let go with one hand, you'll fall. And the ends wouldn't be close enough or long enough to bunch together to hold with one hand if you slipped.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2010 21:44:04 GMT -5
I like having to hold both sides apart. This way if you let go with one hand, you'll fall. And the ends wouldn't be close enough or long enough to bunch together to hold with one hand if you slipped. I had the same idea, except you held a towel, and went down a roped rail. Pretty much the Rope Glider cept with a towel. Donno why I'm even mentioning it, your idea is way clever. Nice.
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Post by supernovamaniac on Jan 5, 2010 21:50:13 GMT -5
Time to use those SASUKE towels in the tournaments now =)
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Post by wolf4537 on Jan 5, 2010 22:53:40 GMT -5
Hopefully they bring back the body prop, but making it go in a direction either downward or upward. THAT would make the obstacle much harder.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jan 5, 2010 22:58:36 GMT -5
We can't call it the Curtain Slider, and the Towel Slider doesn't sound so menacing either... "Grip Slider"? And why does yours have that U shape for the forward parts? Mine doesn't have those..
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Post by penguincatfish on Jan 6, 2010 4:26:39 GMT -5
I like that name... Grip Slider! I have the Iron Gym Xtreme. I wasn't sure whether the extra 10 bucks was worth it over the regular but instead of debating with myself over it, I just bought it anyway because it's something I use everyday. I actually got a discount through Sports Authority because I was a new online subscriber for the email thing. I don't have the wide grips on right now because it would go into the wall on the right for where I have it now. One of the things I like doing is jumping from the U-parts to the main grips and back and I try to go as high as I can. It's my almost-but-not-so-much-Salmon-Ladder-training, but it's fun. At first since it isn't padded, it gave me some calluses but now I don't get them anymore.
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Post by artyfowljr on Jan 6, 2010 4:47:15 GMT -5
actually I've thought about a redesigned pipe slider: pipe with stoppers at the end like the post-20 salmon ladder bar, and an Arm Rings like track. Well, a bit softer or it would be impossible not to fall on the sode even with stoppers. Once you pass the whole track, the usual pipe slider jump on the mat.
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Post by awee1975 on Jan 6, 2010 7:08:51 GMT -5
arty- "women can hold on to a rope". Sorry for any misunderstanding. What i meant to say that most women in general have less upper body strength & will find the HPA tougher than men. Of course it is possible for women to beat it, all i am saying is it is tougher for women. remember the rope is swinging & not stationary, most of the women in sasuke could not hold on to it. I repeat it is still possible & of all the women in sasuke i think Luci could be strong enough, she has muscular arms but is light & small. No offence to women. . Hell, i know of many women who can beat me in arm strength so i am not sexist but just saying not many women are that strong.
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Post by awee1975 on Jan 6, 2010 7:11:23 GMT -5
As for the whole point about lower body agility though, I have to disagree. Stage 1's always been a more lower body centered stage. 1st obstacle's pretty much always been about lower body (sure, it's easy, but still), and the Jumping Spider...how is that not lower-body oriented? agility & balance is slighty different from Strength & Stamina. trampolines take technique. Jumping requires upper body & core strength more than leg strength, which is contrary to popular belief, i know. Nagano was very agile in #7 & #8 but could not beat S.Kabe. Bunpei was a experienced triple jumper but also failed it in his rookie appearance. Many gymnasts like Jordan J, Hamn brothers have failed it. Look at Iketani Naoki, even when he was at his peak in monster box, the wall gave him trouble. Nobody can say Iketani can't jump, can they? Trust me, jumping ability & leg strength are different. Also notice how the wall tend to trouble the older guys more than younger ones. Youths under 25 tend to have more leg strength, older men after 35 can retain most of their arms & upper body strength but lose speed & leg strength. the all-stars tend to have trouble with the wall after 36/37. There was this old 50+ ex-gymnast in sasuke 13 or 14 that can do a handstand but was beaten by the crooked wall.
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Post by artyfowljr on Jan 6, 2010 7:13:14 GMT -5
Don't worry, I'm not offended or anything Anyway, any thoughts on my Pipe Slider?
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Post by awee1975 on Jan 6, 2010 7:35:06 GMT -5
you & all the guys are sadist. but so am i with my "grinding ring".
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