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Post by dakohosu on Nov 12, 2021 13:15:58 GMT -5
CustomGaming/PizzaKing we’ve been through this about a thousand times now. As annoying as the celebrities are, it’s either we have them on the show to boost the ratings or Sasuke gets cancelled. Hence we can’t hate on them too much as they heavily contribute to Sasuke still existing, I’d rather have Darvish’s grating sideline action than no tournaments whatsoever. This is even coming from someone who has openly expressed his dislike for some of their antics. I do agree that 38 went a bit overkill, but I think that was more due to how far a lot of them managed to get due to the pathetically easy difficulty of the first half of Stage 1, rather than them competing full stop which as I mentioned I can honestly live with even if there are more and more of them each year.
And yeah honestly unpopular opinion but I think it’s a good thing for Takeda to retire if his shoulder keeps haunting him over and over again. Clearly the injury is coming back and worse each time, it’s not worth him ending up in a cast for the rest of his life for Sasuke; he’s had a brilliant track record as it is. But I agree it’s a huge shame that his last tournament saw him robbed of what I think was a well deserved 2nd Stage attempt. Even if competitors before him also got disqualified, the rule itself was dumb as f*** and shouldn’t have existed full stop.
And I never heard about Ryoma in 23. What actually happened lol.
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Post by subtleagent on Nov 12, 2021 13:24:26 GMT -5
Agree on the Fish Bone. If they didn't make their mat like 10 feet wide they wouldn't have this problem.
He posted some info on the tournament (pics and I think results too) before the airdate and M9 didn't take too kindly to that. Resultantly as well he was cut from the tournament.
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Post by CustomGaming57 on Nov 12, 2021 13:27:58 GMT -5
There are some celebs I don’t have a problem with like Saikawa, Iketani etc. for personal reasons. In my opinion, the strongest celebrities who perform the best deserve to be spotlighted more, instead of upon popularity in general life like Darvish. And won’t you miss Takeda competing because I 100% will, he is one of the faces that made this show an excellent piece of history with his long streak of thirteen 3rd Stage attempts.
P.S. I was watching his heartbreaking fail in 24 with English subtitles yesterday and made me tear up almost immediately because the saddest thing is that he never made it to the Final Stage, which he fully deserved given his strong rope climbing skills.
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Post by dakohosu on Nov 12, 2021 13:53:08 GMT -5
Your point sort of contradicts itself. Darvish is probably the strongest celebrity on the show currently as he's the only one who's actually made Stage 3. And his screen time only started getting really high after he started doing well like clearing Stage 1 a couple of times. Also, the more popular a celebrity is, the more screen time they'll naturally get. Celebrities are placed on the show to drive the mass proportion of viewings and hence the more well-known someone is, the more people they'll attract. From what little I know, Darvish is far more famous than all of the other celebrities bar maybe Takeru who hasn't competed in a while. Also, the fact that Darvish is as, if not more dedicated to Sasuke than a lot of the other competitors sort of makes his hype a bit more bearable as you know they're not just spotlighting someone who's there because they were invited (like Hiromichi Sato for example). Honestly as annoying as I find Darvish's overreactions to literally every fail or clear, I'd rather have him than yet another joke competitor who's going to fail in the exact same way as the other 50% of non-athletic celebs.
And yes I'll obviously miss Takeda competing but that doesn't mean I think he should continue if it's going to debilitate him further. You really don't want to carry any serious injuries forward into your 50s-60s as they'll come back to haunt you with an absolute vengeance; Takeda's 46 now so any further injuries he gets are going to become harder and harder, and eventually impossible to recover from. And yeah I agree that his run in 24 was really sad especially seeing 5 less experienced competitors before him all achieve something he was never able to do in 10 years.
That said, I wouldn't say that being good at a given stage means that they deserve to reach it. I REALLY don't want to bring up Keitaro again but him being an example, everyone knows how good he'd be at Stage 3 but that doesn't mean he deserves to attempt it given he can't break through Stage 2. Takeda's biggest weakness was his stamina; he'd look so strong on the first half of Stage 3 but then just gas out towards the end, as well as him not being good at swinging obstacles which consolidated a lot of his Pipe Slider fails not even being close. Granted his shoulder injury prevented him from reaching his full potential, but I'd say a lot his fails were due to depleted stamina or poor technique rather than bad luck.
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Post by CustomGaming57 on Nov 12, 2021 14:00:11 GMT -5
Darvish wouldn’t be the strongest celebrity on the 3rd Stage though, as he’s now 40 and would stand almost zero chance of beating the Cliffhanger. I honestly think that Saikawa and/or Kajihara are stronger than Darvish, especially because they both outperformed him in 38 and would probably do better if they reached the 3rd Stage. They’re also much younger and have got a large window of opportunity to prove themselves, unless Darvish is age resilient like Urushihara which is hard to tell, it’s unlikely he will make it back to Stage 3 (which I don’t care if does anyway).
And it’s not like I want Takeda to compete forever but considering retiring without mentioning it publicly, especially in competition is just crushing. I feel so bad for the guy because he worked so hard doing a 100 day challenge last year to get back in excellent shape and performed on the course very strongly again, until his devastating injury came back to haunt him and made him finally kiss goodbye to his beloved SASUKE career. Guess Shingo’s the last hope of an All-Star clearing the 1st Stage but I have no more confidence in him because he’s too prone to making mistakes early.
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Post by dakohosu on Nov 13, 2021 7:24:09 GMT -5
I’d say Darvish is pretty age resilient, he gave his best ever performance at the age of 38 and would’ve made it back to Stage 2 in the last tournament if it wasn’t for the Dragon Glider malfunctioning as it did (that’s why there was no replay on his run; TBS despicably tried to hide the fact that the obstacle didn’t work properly and didn’t give him a rerun). From his Instagram it seems like he’s getting stronger at all the obstacles that he’s built in his house, of which there are many like the Flying Bar and Crazy Cliffhanger etc. The question is whether he’ll improve at the rate at which the course is getting harder. I definitely think he could make it back to Stage 2, and he’s even practiced the entire Stage 2 numerous times so who knows how he’ll do there.... I think him reaching Stage 3 again is possible but unlikely given the renewal but I’ll guess we’ll see.
My money’s personally on Hayate though. The guy almost reached Stage 3 in his very first competition, surpassing a lot of veterans like Ryo and Hioki on Stage 2. So I definitely think we’ll see him in Stage 3 in the near future, where I think he could do pretty well; he’s shown on his Instagram that he can do 3 180 transitions in a row, but obvs practice and competition are very different especially in the case of the Cliffhanger.
Saikawa I also think is a good competitor but both of his Stage 2 runs have been quite unconvincing; one Salmon Ladder fail and in 38 had he not failed the Spider Drop he still would’ve timed out regardless.
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Post by Sasuke Mania on Nov 13, 2021 11:36:44 GMT -5
Just move on and try to get back to the topic at hand, you'll get a more riveting conversation out of a brick wall. Anyways, TBS are now teasing that they've dug up holes to build the course, which...is interesting for pretty obvious reasons lol
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Post by penguincatfish on Nov 13, 2021 12:55:26 GMT -5
That post also has a link to a video of the Black Tigers training, which also features a 13 year old. With the teens in Vegas and what the kids are doing on Ninja Junior this season, I've been wondering what kids in Japan are doing for Ninja. Over the years, it generally feels like they don't exist, so this is cool to see.
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Post by Ninja Relaxer on Nov 13, 2021 13:39:15 GMT -5
This is fairly routine, isn't it? Wouldn't they have to dig new water pits nearly every time they re-design the course?
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Post by supernovamaniac on Nov 13, 2021 14:19:42 GMT -5
This is fairly routine, isn't it? Wouldn't they have to dig new water pits nearly every time they re-design the course? If you mean re-design as in re-building the course, then yes (just pointing out the re-design because people may confuse that with new obstacles).
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Post by dakohosu on Nov 13, 2021 14:40:41 GMT -5
Yeah that’s honestly nothing to write home about lol.
Speaking of the Black Tigers, there was a Sasuke TBS video a few months ago where Yamada indoctrinated a few new members including the aforementioned 13 year old. There’s also a foreign guy living in Japan (didn’t want to say ‘foreign guy’ but I have no idea where he’s from as he was speaking in Japanese lol) who’s become a member as well, which I think is pretty dope.
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Post by poi255324 on Nov 14, 2021 1:29:23 GMT -5
Yeah that’s honestly nothing to write home about lol. Speaking of the Black Tigers, there was a Sasuke TBS video a few months ago where Yamada indoctrinated a few new members including the aforementioned 13 year old. There’s also a foreign guy living in Japan (didn’t want to say ‘foreign guy’ but I have no idea where he’s from as he was speaking in Japanese lol) who’s become a member as well, which I think is pretty dope. He's from Belgium.
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Post by dakohosu on Nov 14, 2021 7:28:05 GMT -5
Oh nice.
Let’s hope some of these new members actually get to compete. I swear there are some members that have been there since the start 7-8 years ago that still just haven’t been invited lol.
That said if Yamada’s still only allowed two competitors as per the last few tournaments, now Isa’s left, it’s probably going to be Yoshiyuki for obvious reasons, and I’d bet my money on Hiroshige as he nearly made Stage 3 a couple of times so he’s at least somewhat proven and he only stopped competing due to being collateral damage r/e Obata getting banned.
On the subject, apparently Isa didn’t leave of his own accord but was actually let go by Yamada because his goal was to only reach the 3rd stage and not actually win. While I think it’s a bit harsh, given that Yamada’s goal is for his protégés to achieve what he never could, it’s kinda fair imo.
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Post by dakohosu on Nov 16, 2021 7:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by poi255324 on Nov 16, 2021 9:19:12 GMT -5
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Nov 16, 2021 9:22:11 GMT -5
lol he's a doctor too of all people to blow it. *Edit*: Oh nvm
Anyway Yoshiyuki's down to 4% body fat. Yamada Koji's claim to fame was 3% I think. This dude's dedication is unreal. Reminds me of an old school Sasuke type passion. I want him to win badly
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Post by dakohosu on Nov 16, 2021 11:37:24 GMT -5
Oh oops my bad. I just searched the #sasuke2021 tag and saw that so assumed it was from 39 lol.
Also damn but if he was actually a true 4% he'd probably be either dead or preparing for a bodybuilding show which isn't maintainable. A lot of methods of measuring BF% become super inaccurate the lower you are (I got 3% once and I'm definitely not that lean lol); if he was actually 4% he'd look like a complete freak of nature which he doesn't. He just looks insanely athletic so me saying he's not 4% is a complement more than anything else.
Also this video basically confirms that Hiroshige didn't compete in 39 as he wasn't in the 'Top 2' competitors where Yoshiyuki was obvs No. 1. The other guy has been on the team for a while and in videos I've seen of him he's pretty strong so best of luck to both.
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Nov 16, 2021 14:39:17 GMT -5
Haha maybe he had a bad test too. I can't really see a difference. Anything below 10% BF to me is highly impressive.
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Post by Zach Smith on Nov 16, 2021 23:52:07 GMT -5
lol he's a doctor too of all people to blow it. *Edit*: Oh nvm Anyway Yoshiyuki's down to 4% body fat. Yamada Koji's claim to fame was 3% I think. This dude's dedication is unreal. Reminds me of an old school Sasuke type passion. I want him to win badly Body fat that low isn't healthy
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Post by dakohosu on Nov 17, 2021 5:32:44 GMT -5
He looks closer to 6-7% in real life, which is really the absolute lower limit of healthy. As I mentioned 4% isn't maintainable it's basically what bodybuilders get down to and then have to quickly binge eat to gain some fat back again.
Either way, what I don't get about this video is how they've basically just assumed that a load of the other Black Tigers like Hiroshige and that 50 year old guy (the slim tall one who looks a bit like Obata, he's called romeo something on Instagram) don't exist, even though they're arguably far more skilled than the new competitors as they've been training for years. I'd be pissed as hell if I was them lol.
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