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Post by subtleagent on Dec 3, 2021 19:38:00 GMT -5
I was a tad surprised they did, but then again 90 seconds on the Rolling Hill is likely not worthy of airtime.
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Post by PsychoDelusion on Dec 3, 2021 20:11:06 GMT -5
Yeah seriously the degree of success on the show has never been so monopolised by a single competitor as it is now. Even Nagano wasn’t THAT far ahead of guys like Bunpei or Takeda. Yusuke has made the Final Stage 4 times now, each time having been the only competitor to attempt it, and has won twice. Basically everyone else chokes at the Cliffhanger. The pattern of results are getting a bit monotonous now. Don’t get me wrong; whatever the outcome I’m hella excited that we have a tournament this year, but I just want to see some new faces exceed rather than Yusuke just dominating again and again. Easier said than done given that the guy has no blatant weaknesses and he’s not even 30 years old so we’re not gonna see the same level of decline that Nagano experienced for a while. Like I really want to see someone just come out of nowhere and obliterate the course, like Yuuji in 22 or Rene in 37. Hopefully some of the rock climbers competing can give a good run. A part of me feels that Inui wants Yusuke to win again because of the spectacle and hype that a Kanzen brings about, but personally I just see it as a failure of a renewal and if anything means he’ll have to spend even more money for yet another ‘renewal’ for Sasuke 40. Oh well. Yusuke's weaknesses are in Stages 1&2 which have largely remained unchanged during his reign. The double warped wall is a small attempt to make things tougher for him but I'd just like to see Inui putting a mandatory height in the Wall Lifting so Yusuke will actually try and lift the walls instead of passing under them. During Nagano's reign, all 3 stages were changing constantly and were way more balanced across all sorts of competitors. Stage 3 nowadays is all about being 3ft tall with crazy grip. The only consistent outlier to this was Drew and we all know how crazy good he was and how he was practicing pretty much everyday for this. Fundamentally speaking, the course is broken nowadays.
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Post by subtleagent on Dec 4, 2021 0:21:49 GMT -5
Yeah seriously the degree of success on the show has never been so monopolised by a single competitor as it is now. Even Nagano wasn’t THAT far ahead of guys like Bunpei or Takeda. Yusuke has made the Final Stage 4 times now, each time having been the only competitor to attempt it, and has won twice. Basically everyone else chokes at the Cliffhanger. The pattern of results are getting a bit monotonous now. Don’t get me wrong; whatever the outcome I’m hella excited that we have a tournament this year, but I just want to see some new faces exceed rather than Yusuke just dominating again and again. Easier said than done given that the guy has no blatant weaknesses and he’s not even 30 years old so we’re not gonna see the same level of decline that Nagano experienced for a while. Like I really want to see someone just come out of nowhere and obliterate the course, like Yuuji in 22 or Rene in 37. Hopefully some of the rock climbers competing can give a good run. A part of me feels that Inui wants Yusuke to win again because of the spectacle and hype that a Kanzen brings about, but personally I just see it as a failure of a renewal and if anything means he’ll have to spend even more money for yet another ‘renewal’ for Sasuke 40. Oh well. Yusuke's weaknesses are in Stages 1&2 which have largely remained unchanged during his reign. The double warped wall is a small attempt to make things tougher for him but I'd just like to see Inui putting a mandatory height in the Wall Lifting so Yusuke will actually try and lift the walls instead of passing under them. During Nagano's reign, all 3 stages were changing constantly and were way more balanced across all sorts of competitors. Stage 3 nowadays is all about being 3ft tall with crazy grip. The only consistent outlier to this was Drew and we all know how crazy good he was and how he was practicing pretty much everyday for this. Fundamentally speaking, the course is broken nowadays. Honestly, I agree. It's been the same bland stuff since 2015. While they've added a few cool ideas here and there a lot of them have just been either wildly underwhelming or have become far too easy thanks to the stagnancy of the time limits.
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Post by zoran on Dec 4, 2021 5:06:52 GMT -5
Yusuke's weaknesses are in Stages 1&2 which have largely remained unchanged during his reign. The double warped wall is a small attempt to make things tougher for him but I'd just like to see Inui putting a mandatory height in the Wall Lifting so Yusuke will actually try and lift the walls instead of passing under them. During Nagano's reign, all 3 stages were changing constantly and were way more balanced across all sorts of competitors. Stage 3 nowadays is all about being 3ft tall with crazy grip. The only consistent outlier to this was Drew and we all know how crazy good he was and how he was practicing pretty much everyday for this. Fundamentally speaking, the course is broken nowadays. Honestly, I agree. It's been the same bland stuff since 2015. While they've added a few cool ideas here and there a lot of them have just been either wildly underwhelming or have become far too easy thanks to the stagnancy of the time limits. It's a sure sign the show is really on it's last legs, either in terms of budget or lack of care from the showrunners.
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Post by dakohosu on Dec 4, 2021 5:42:54 GMT -5
Yeah I suppose you're right. I do remember Yusuke coming an absolute hair length away from failing the Fish Bone in 33 when it was completely new.
It's pretty hard in all honesty to gauge Yusuke's adaptability at this point. I'm assuming it's way higher than most competitors but we don't have much evidence given that except for the Dragon Glider he's never really had to deal with many surprises recently. The Planet Bridge was too easy, and the Rolling Log and CHD he was already aware of before he attempted them in 38; in fact for how many people call him a Cliffhanger god, he's never attempted any Cliffhanger in its introductory tournament.
I do agree that Stage 1 is where the most opportunity would be in terms of taking Yusuke out without it becoming a Sasuke 19 situation where basically no one else clears. With Nagano it was different because over his tenure they actually did throw a lot of new obstacles at him every season but he never faltered, hence they felt the need to make Stage 1 brutally hard because of how adaptable he otherwise seemed to be. Whereas Yusuke's success could be attributed to a lack of course innovation or surprises; the guy's success is mainly based on how aggressively he trains so if you take that out of the equation by shaking the course up a bit then he could very easily falter.
The two elements I would've focussed on would've been introducing balance obstacles and making the time limit more stringent. Balance isn't something that's really been present in Sasuke for a long time and is thus likely neglected during training, so I feel like it would be a shock surprise to most competitors and could potentially take a few unexpecting guys out, Yusuke included. Then having a more stringent time limit could work wonders as well; Sasuke 37 showed that for how 'invincible' Yusuke's perceived to be, even he can crack under the pressure of the klaxon. He's never cleared with the fastest times, largely attributed to him taking as much time as he feels he needs on the course rather than being outright slow, but again that time pressure on Stage 1 isn't something he's experienced in a long time so it could force him to make rash decisions that may work against him.
So yeah, I'd focus on Stage 1. Stages 2 and 3 I feel play too much to his advantages in upper body strength such that any difficulty buff would just destroy the entire rest of the field. Sasuke 38 was concrete evidence of this; Yusuke still managed to come through while everyone else like Yuuji, Hioki, Tada etc.'s results suffered.
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Post by dragstar on Dec 4, 2021 9:03:11 GMT -5
I was a tad surprised they did, but then again 90 seconds on the Rolling Hill is likely not worthy of airtime. At least give them proper introductions, then digest their run if it's not worthy enough.
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Post by dakohosu on Dec 10, 2021 13:15:52 GMT -5
SPOILER ALERT https://www.tiktok.com/@sasuke_tbs/video/7038570283636215042
This video confirms that someone reaches the Final Stage, as expected.
Also, the weather appears to affect the latter part of Stage 1 as Morimoto appears to literally be running in the rain.
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Post by CustomGaming57 on Dec 10, 2021 19:24:02 GMT -5
If it's Yoshiyuki, then it will be really exciting to see if Yamada's dying dream has been finally fulfilled but if it's just Morimoto again, then I will not be happy because like you said, it's just getting tiresome seeing this new GOAT going further than everyone else in these present tournaments.
I actually hoped that nobody would reach the Final Stage in this tournament because of how I really wanted to see most of the course being redesigned with a lot of new obstacles introduced, but all thanks to Inui's low budget it didn't happen and just feels like the worst renewal tournament ever in SASUKE. I wish he'd just go at this rate because he's too poor to give the stages a tremendous redesign and also host the tournaments every twice a year.
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Post by Klorel439 on Dec 11, 2021 2:44:35 GMT -5
We have spoiler tags, use them please.
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Post by penguincatfish on Dec 11, 2021 15:36:40 GMT -5
In that TikTok video... {Spoiler}Someone was dressed as a rock climbing wall.
The best way to beat the course is to literally become the course!
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Post by SRW on Dec 11, 2021 18:22:32 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Yusuke in the final again bank on it! Probably smash it too if he good at rock walls!
Looks like a VLK fail in there too for someone!
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Post by dakohosu on Dec 12, 2021 5:11:18 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Yusuke in the final again bank on it! Probably smash it too if he good at rock walls!
Looks like a VLK fail in there too for someone! Having a rock wall replace the Spider Climb is cool but I just feel like it increases the bias towards competitors with climbing backgrounds on a course which already massively favours those kinds of competitors. In fact it basically means that unless you're at least a semi-pro climber you basically have zero chance of Kanzen, which is a shame given that it basically blocks competitors like Yoshiyuki who is strong enough in almost every other way except those required techniques. I guess everyone's spending the next year in climbing gyms then...
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Post by penguincatfish on Dec 12, 2021 15:21:12 GMT -5
So you're saying our new rock climbing queen has the best chance of Kanzen...
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Post by ArbuthnotBlob on Dec 12, 2021 21:36:04 GMT -5
So you're saying our new rock climbing queen has the best chance of Kanzen... I've gone from ambivalent about Boruneesan to actually really liking them once I found out what their whole deal was xD This article really helped, along with their fluff video that you posted: www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/meet_boruneesan_-_japans_climbing_wall_mascot-13930 They actually seem pretty fit, but I feel like they're kinda doomed for Fishbone, and if they can clear Stage One even in that suit, they're super doomed for Backstream in S2... That said, a Boruneesan in Stage 2 is something I would pay to see xD
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Post by penguincatfish on Dec 13, 2021 14:40:32 GMT -5
Backstream would be hilarious. If the costume contains the same kind of foam material as those floating pool mats, then they could just float across the top. If not, then RIP Boru and RIP Backstream.
They could also run without the costume in a simple wetsuit or something, and either edit in a Boruneesan emoji to cover their face, or wear one of those facekinis from China that seem to go viral every year...
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Post by penguincatfish on Dec 18, 2021 14:30:49 GMT -5
In the latest competitor intro video, at one minute in, you can somewhat see the 3rd obstacle in Stage 3 in the background.
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Post by dakohosu on Dec 25, 2021 14:11:35 GMT -5
SPOILER don't read below the video link if you don't want them (I don't know how to add tags).
It seems as though someone with a middle parting and Adidas tracksuits at least clears the 1st wall of the Ni Ren.
Can confirm this is #31: Hideo Yasushima.
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Dec 25, 2021 14:20:15 GMT -5
Tags are just [ spoiler]Insert text here[/spoiler] but leave out the space in the first spoiler bracket.
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Post by zoran on Dec 25, 2021 16:03:44 GMT -5
SPOILER don't read below the video link if you don't want them (I don't know how to add tags). It seems as though someone with a middle parting and Adidas tracksuits at least clears the 1st wall of the Ni Ren. Can confirm this is #31: Hideo Yasushima. Is there only 2 tackle boxes now?
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Post by dakohosu on Dec 25, 2021 16:19:57 GMT -5
Good observation. It looks like it from 0:48. Maybe they collectively weigh the same as the three but because you have to push all the weights sooner it's harder? Idk.
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