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Post by arsenette on Aug 5, 2020 6:46:52 GMT -5
He pleaded not guilty but.. yeah the complaint attached is NSFW. Guide me through this, please. What is meant by pleaded not guilty here? When someone is arrested and arrive in court in front of a judge they are told the "counts" they are facing. Meaning each charge is categorized to show the offense and what criminal statute in the law is being offended. He has 8 separate counts ( Full list here - please note the rest of this is detailed and graphic so I'm issuing a trigger warning for those who don't want to read this disturbing stuff). After all of the counts the federal court judge (meaning the USA as a whole and not just one of the states or a local crime so the offenses are severe) are explained to Drew he and his attorney have to decide if they are going to enter a plea of "Guilty", "Not Guilty", "No contest", or even withhold the plea until later. His answer determines how the Federal Prosecutor will handle the case. If he pleads guilty the trial is different and it's more trying to make the penalty lighter. If not guilty he can be hit with the full amount (some of the counts have a range of 10-30 years so in this case the Prosecutors will aim for the 30 years). All in all he's facing life in prison just with 1 of those counts. He did enter his plea. Now he waits for trial. Since he entered not guilty as his plea he's not trying to get a "plea deal" which is a lesser punishment in exchange for cooperation which can be offered by the prosecutor to shorten trial lengths (often not even going to trial at all). Hope that helps in understanding the American Federal process. In my own opinion reading what they have, the existence of the server and the fact he does not deny any of the charges when he was arrested, he's going away for life. I'm more disturbed the server was labeled.. HOW many others are there? There's a line at the end of the FBI website asking for others who have been victimized to come forward. I think pandora's box has not even been opened yet. |
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Post by ChiBiJKT48 on Aug 5, 2020 6:58:43 GMT -5
When someone is arrested and arrive in court in front of a judge they are told the "counts" they are facing. Meaning each charge is categorized to show the offense and what criminal statute in the law is being offended. He has 8 separate counts ( Full list here - please note the rest of this is detailed and graphic so I'm issuing a trigger warning for those who don't want to read this disturbing stuff). After all of the counts the federal court judge (meaning the USA as a whole and not just one of the states or a local crime so the offenses are severe) are explained to Drew he and his attorney have to decide if they are going to enter a plea of "Guilty", "Not Guilty", "No contest", or even withhold the plea until later. His answer determines how the Federal Prosecutor will handle the case. If he pleads guilty the trial is different and it's more trying to make the penalty lighter. If not guilty he can be hit with the full amount (some of the counts have a range of 10-30 years so in this case the Prosecutors will aim for the 30 years). All in all he's facing life in prison just with 1 of those counts. He did enter his plea. Now he waits for trial. Since he entered not guilty as his plea he's not trying to get a "plea deal" which is a lesser punishment in exchange for cooperation which can be offered by the prosecutor to shorten trial lengths (often not even going to trial at all). Hope that helps in understanding the American Federal process. In my own opinion reading what they have, the existence of the server and the fact he does not deny any of the charges when he was arrested, he's going away for life. I'm more disturbed the server was labeled.. HOW many others are there? There's a line at the end of the FBI website asking for others who have been victimized to come forward. I think pandora's box has not even been opened yet. Wait, he doesn't deny he is guilty, but he pleaded not guilty? That is weird.... So it basically means if the Prosecutors did their job and all the counts are proven true, he could be in prison for life? Wow.... Well, I guess, innocent until proven guilty, but if you're guilty, then you're guilty. Not trying to be cold or anything. Just fact. No fame can save him. |
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Post by arsenette on Aug 5, 2020 7:08:39 GMT -5
When someone is arrested and arrive in court in front of a judge they are told the "counts" they are facing. Meaning each charge is categorized to show the offense and what criminal statute in the law is being offended. He has 8 separate counts ( Full list here - please note the rest of this is detailed and graphic so I'm issuing a trigger warning for those who don't want to read this disturbing stuff). After all of the counts the federal court judge (meaning the USA as a whole and not just one of the states or a local crime so the offenses are severe) are explained to Drew he and his attorney have to decide if they are going to enter a plea of "Guilty", "Not Guilty", "No contest", or even withhold the plea until later. His answer determines how the Federal Prosecutor will handle the case. If he pleads guilty the trial is different and it's more trying to make the penalty lighter. If not guilty he can be hit with the full amount (some of the counts have a range of 10-30 years so in this case the Prosecutors will aim for the 30 years). All in all he's facing life in prison just with 1 of those counts. He did enter his plea. Now he waits for trial. Since he entered not guilty as his plea he's not trying to get a "plea deal" which is a lesser punishment in exchange for cooperation which can be offered by the prosecutor to shorten trial lengths (often not even going to trial at all). Hope that helps in understanding the American Federal process. In my own opinion reading what they have, the existence of the server and the fact he does not deny any of the charges when he was arrested, he's going away for life. I'm more disturbed the server was labeled.. HOW many others are there? There's a line at the end of the FBI website asking for others who have been victimized to come forward. I think pandora's box has not even been opened yet. Wait, he don't deny he is guilty, but he pleaded not guilty? That is weird.... So it basically means if the Prosecutors did their job and all the counts enter, he could be in prison for life? Wow.... Well, I guess, innocent until proven guilty, but if you're guilty, then you're guilty. Not trying to be cold or anything. Just fact. No fame can save him. From what I understand when the search warrant was issued in November, 2019 he was confronted by the police (when they found the evidence - video and photos he took without her knowledge) he did not deny all of it was his. The "not guilty" is referred to him denying he broke that particular law. The argument in court becomes a legal argument between the lawyers proving or disproving that he broke those statutes in the law. The trial itself determines how persuasive the prosecution is in proving Drew broke those Federal statutes. That is why they are presumed innocent until proven guilty. The evidence though is pretty damning (Federal cases (in contrast to local or state cases) usually have a LOT of more evidence before they even consider trial so they have been monitoring him for a while). He can also change his plea later even up to the date of the trial. They might be trying to get him to confess to the others that they found on that server. He may change his plea in exchange for not going to prison for the rest of his life giving the names of the other victims or even confessing to it. As it stands now trial over a year away possibly more. He's in prison now as he was denied bail and considered a danger to society according to a judge. There's multiple articles out there each with their own level of detail and I forgot which one had that exact detail. Link to the article about custodyLink to article about arrest |
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Post by PsychoDelusion on Aug 5, 2020 7:36:45 GMT -5
While Drechsel seems like he brought it to himself (he could have stopped when he told his mother that he didn't knew she was underage), Victim 1 seems that she most probably did these things with her consent and only opened up about this when Drechsel won the $1m prize from ANW. While I can't defend Drechsel in any way about what he has committed, especially after what happened beyond the 1st encounter and while he had a girlfriend, I feel sorry for the people around him. My intuition points to money being the reason of this investigation. Most probably, in a few months we'll hear that the case has been settled "out of court" which will mean exactly that. Can't see Drechsel choosing any other way if he's guilty, though by reading the report attached above, he's no better than people currently rotting in jail right now for the exact same crimes.
No matter the result though, his career is pretty much over.
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Post by PsychoDelusion on Aug 5, 2020 7:37:22 GMT -5
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Post by arsenette on Aug 5, 2020 7:48:24 GMT -5
While Drechsel seems like he brought it to himself (he could have stopped when he told his mother that he didn't knew she was underage), Victim 1 seems that she did everything willingly and only opened up about this when Drechsel won the $1m prize from ANW. While I can't defend Drechsel in any way about what he has committed and I feel sorry for the people around him, it's more than clear that the main motivation behind this is money. Most probably, in a few months we'll hear that the case has been settled "out of court" which will mean exactly that. Can't see Drechsel choosing any other way if he's guilty. No matter the result though, his career is pretty much over. Could be a number of factors honestly as to why in June, 2019. ANW Final definitely played a role giving the timing of June and the microscope his win inevitably brought. Given from the evidence presented he was the instigator to the meetings and controlled the outcome it could have been something simple as wow I'm super famous now and I have to break ties with my past or someone is going to find out. Everything looks like this was kept from April (there's a line in the complaint that he chose locations as a way to keep it from April). Could have been the method in how she was dumped. Who knows at this point. As for "willingly" that's why underage sex is a federal crime. She was 14. You don't get to warp the mind of a child that way. Seems she was groomed because she was infatuated with him. No different than R. Kelly who chose his victims as minors. I know trying to rationalize this makes people go in different ways to find reasons to explain such depravity but please don't victim shame (even though I know you don't mean it that way. It just can be construed that way when reading that line). I'm more horrified at the length of which he kept a private server with labels of his victims. HOW MANY LABELS ARE THERE? This isn't a simple "he slept with a hot chick go Drew" going on. If the FBI is gunning for his cooperation with the rest of the victims of that server.. he's going to prison full stop. I don't see him settling out of court when the Feds are involved. If anything it's to not get "life" in prison but something less than that. However, given the age and over state travel that's predator territory. |
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Post by PsychoDelusion on Aug 5, 2020 7:57:33 GMT -5
While Drechsel seems like he brought it to himself (he could have stopped when he told his mother that he didn't knew she was underage), Victim 1 seems that she did everything willingly and only opened up about this when Drechsel won the $1m prize from ANW. While I can't defend Drechsel in any way about what he has committed and I feel sorry for the people around him, it's more than clear that the main motivation behind this is money. Most probably, in a few months we'll hear that the case has been settled "out of court" which will mean exactly that. Can't see Drechsel choosing any other way if he's guilty. No matter the result though, his career is pretty much over. Could be a number of factors honestly as to why in June, 2019. ANW Final definitely played a role giving the timing of June and the microscope his win inevitably brought. Given from the evidence presented he was the instigator to the meetings and controlled the outcome it could have been something simple as wow I'm super famous now and I have to break ties with my past or someone is going to find out. Everything looks like this was kept from April (there's a line in the complaint that he chose locations as a way to keep it from April). Could have been the method in how she was dumped. Who knows at this point. As for "willingly" that's why underage sex is a federal crime. She was 14. You don't get to warp the mind of a child that way. Seems she was groomed because she was infatuated with him. No different than R. Kelly who chose his victims as minors. I know trying to rationalize this makes people go in different ways to find reasons to explain such depravity but please don't victim shame (even though I know you don't mean it that way. It just can be construed that way when reading that line). I'm more horrified at the length of which he kept a private server with labels of his victims. HOW MANY LABELS ARE THERE? This isn't a simple "he slept with a hot chick go Drew" going on. If the FBI is gunning for his cooperation with the rest of the victims of that server.. he's going to prison full stop. I don't see him settling out of court when the Feds are involved. If anything it's to not get "life" in prison but something less than that. However, given the age and over state travel that's predator territory. Yeah definitely agree with this and as I said Drew's going to get what he deserves. I just hope that this punishment will come as a result of a then underage girl still being haunted by that period and not as a shiny chance to make money, cause Drew will end up wherever he'll end up but what about poor April and their child? This is what bothers me the most. I just feel so disappointed in him. I always saw him as the prime example of how a ANW/SASUKE competitor should be. He has it all: Speed, Strength, Agility, Stamina and he seemed like a genuinely nice guy, a bit cocky but also justified because of how good he really is as a competitor. 2020 is the gift that keeps on giving. Also edited my post above so it won't come as me blaming the victim cause in all honesty Dreschel is at fault 110% on this. |
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Post by arsenette on Aug 5, 2020 8:03:26 GMT -5
Could be a number of factors honestly as to why in June, 2019. ANW Final definitely played a role giving the timing of June and the microscope his win inevitably brought. Given from the evidence presented he was the instigator to the meetings and controlled the outcome it could have been something simple as wow I'm super famous now and I have to break ties with my past or someone is going to find out. Everything looks like this was kept from April (there's a line in the complaint that he chose locations as a way to keep it from April). Could have been the method in how she was dumped. Who knows at this point. As for "willingly" that's why underage sex is a federal crime. She was 14. You don't get to warp the mind of a child that way. Seems she was groomed because she was infatuated with him. No different than R. Kelly who chose his victims as minors. I know trying to rationalize this makes people go in different ways to find reasons to explain such depravity but please don't victim shame (even though I know you don't mean it that way. It just can be construed that way when reading that line). I'm more horrified at the length of which he kept a private server with labels of his victims. HOW MANY LABELS ARE THERE? This isn't a simple "he slept with a hot chick go Drew" going on. If the FBI is gunning for his cooperation with the rest of the victims of that server.. he's going to prison full stop. I don't see him settling out of court when the Feds are involved. If anything it's to not get "life" in prison but something less than that. However, given the age and over state travel that's predator territory. Yeah definitely agree with this and as I said Drew's going to get what he deserves. I just hope that this punishment will come as a result of a then underage girl still being haunted by that period and not as a shiny chance to make money, cause Drew will end up wherever he'll end up but what about poor April and their child? This is what bothers me the most. I just feel so disappointed in him. I always saw him as the prime example of how a ANW/SASUKE competitor should be. He has it all: Speed, Strength, Agility, Stamina and he seemed like a genuinely nice guy, a bit cocky but also justified because of how good he really is as a competitor. 2020 is the gift that keeps on giving Checks calendar.. yeah.. we are still in 2020.. halfway through 2020.. uuuuuuuugh. Agreed. I can't imagine what April is going through and they precious newborn who as it stands now won't know their father. It's just heartbreaking and infuriating to read about sex offenders because of how many victims there are including their own family. And yes I totally understand the grief and devastation everyone is going through.. you just wish you could look up to people. Humanity sucks a lot of late. |
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Post by MiguelAbuel on Aug 5, 2020 8:20:05 GMT -5
I wonder how the other ninjas feel especially Flip since they were rivals for a few seasons and especially since Flip was a victim of sexual assault
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Post by anime boy on Aug 5, 2020 9:35:43 GMT -5
I read the 23 page court document, yeah he's guilty. Minimum time he can do is 15 years, and the fact they have so much evidence on him leads me to believe he'll be prosecuted easy. They have his text messages, call history, travel logs, and his transaction history which all verify the victim's story. This may lead to a larger investigation into more ninja gyms, because in the documents it stated that Drew and the victim had sexual encounters outside of Movement Lab NJ, a very popular ninja gym. I doubt the gym knew of what was going on, but this happening to begin with is going to be a permanent mark of shame for the sport. Ninja Warrior as a sport is a sport composed of young athletes. It should be the community's job to make sure the kids are safe and protected from something like this happening ever again.
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Post by nevada83 on Aug 5, 2020 10:07:39 GMT -5
From stuff I've heard on how he treats people (for example, production team at ANW) he doesnt seem to be as nice as he portrays on tv. Any examples? He legit hijacked Daniel Gil's interview in ANW 8... |
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Post by crimson on Aug 5, 2020 12:24:42 GMT -5
I'm very shocked. I looked up to Drew for a long time and was incredibly drawn to his charisma and humbleness. I guess those are traits for sexual predators who groom their victims and gain their trust.
The full text of the complaint was very damning, so I would be shocked if he doesn't plead guilty at some point. We will have to see how it plays out, but I'd imagine that this story will end tragically for everyone.
Hopefully there are no other victims, but given the dynamics of sexual abuse, there is a possibility of that.
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Post by Messup434 on Aug 5, 2020 12:27:11 GMT -5
This is such a shame. I even talked with him about his gyms and past work at the Wolfpack Tour in May 2017  This pretty much ruined a lot of my favorite runs. He legit hijacked Daniel Gil's interview in ANW 8... Wasn't that Thomas Stillings? |
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Post by OwlRTA on Aug 5, 2020 14:18:03 GMT -5
I can't believe it. I thought Drew was a great guy, with the way he competed and that stuff, but this is disgusting. Lock him away.
I feel so bad for April (assuming she was unaware of this, which looks like she wasn't aware considering Drew's actions), their son, and the victim, and I hope it's just one victim. There are kids that look up to him, and explaining why he's not in ninja competitions anymore to them is going to be tough.
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Post by crimson on Aug 5, 2020 14:23:28 GMT -5
http://instagram.com/p/CDhMT-vJQhG ANW Nation posted a statement from NBC Universal. The show will cut all ties with Drew and he will not appear in any future shows. Some ninjas have liked or reacted to the post on Instagram, but I imagine many are already aware. It goes to show how Drew's actions have costed him his family, friends and career. Quite a shame. |
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Post by crimson on Aug 5, 2020 14:29:56 GMT -5
I feel so bad for April (assuming she was unaware of this, which looks like she wasn't aware considering Drew's actions), their son, and the victim, and I hope it's just one victim. Yes, the court documents specify that Drew took various actions to hide his actions from April. I am curious about whether she or anyone in his inner circle was aware of the ongoing investigation. The FBI obtained a search warrant back in November 2019 to go through his home in CT, cell phone and personal records. Since that time, his wife gave birth to a daughter in Dec 2019 and they purchased a home in Florida earlier this year. It would be very hard to hide the investigation from his wife during that time, but anything is possible. |
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Aug 5, 2020 15:32:07 GMT -5
So pretty much he's super gone. So much is already revealed so it's pretty much going to go the way we think. Man April and her kid... I can hardly imagine how they're taking this... I keep looking back at my Pokemon GO game as he's the 2nd closest to being a best friend on my end. He caught a Heracross and that was it. I feel he was just living life and all of a sudden it all went downhill. Goodbye. He won't be coming back.
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Post by hashtagswag on Aug 5, 2020 15:41:59 GMT -5
So pretty much he's super gone. So much is already revealed so it's pretty much going to go the way we think. Man April and her kid... I can hardly imagine how they're taking this... I keep looking back at my Pokemon GO game as he's the 2nd closest to being a best friend on my end. He caught a Heracross and that was it. I feel he was just living life and all of a sudden it all went downhill. Goodbye. He won't be coming back. Im gutted for him and the family tho .hes clearly in the wrong ..but it feels so bad man.this is the guy who put the sport on the map for kids growing up including myself .he was a beast on and off the course ..everyone who loved ninja loved drew in some way...be it his technique .determination or sheer strength ..this is crazy times were in |
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Post by Ninja Warrior Ryan on Aug 5, 2020 15:48:52 GMT -5
He legit hijacked Daniel Gil's interview in ANW 8... I'm sure stories of him are going to come out now that he isn't the star of the show anymore. |
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Aug 5, 2020 16:19:58 GMT -5
So pretty much he's super gone. So much is already revealed so it's pretty much going to go the way we think. Man April and her kid... I can hardly imagine how they're taking this... I keep looking back at my Pokemon GO game as he's the 2nd closest to being a best friend on my end. He caught a Heracross and that was it. I feel he was just living life and all of a sudden it all went downhill. Goodbye. He won't be coming back. Im gutted for him and the family tho .hes clearly in the wrong ..but it feels so bad man.this is the guy who put the sport on the map for kids growing up including myself .he was a beast on and off the course ..everyone who loved ninja loved drew in some way...be it his technique .determination or sheer strength ..this is crazy times were in 2020 is turning into the weirdest year I've experienced. Maybe it's a good thing I didn't get into ninja because of him. Thank goodness Shingo got to me first... Yeah... It'll be interesting to see how April responds to this... |
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This pretty much ruined a lot of my favorite runs.
