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Post by GlobalNinjaFan on Oct 11, 2018 17:07:19 GMT -5
I recently watched Sasuke 27 again, and in that, the Ryo on display was night and day compared to the Ryo we've seen the past couple of years. It was honestly quite depressing, and got me thinking if he could ever gain back even part of his old lustre.
In 27, you could see how enthused he was. He looked overjoyed to be there, happy in both success and defeat, and was a constant presence showing support and bolstering the show. He gave the show a lot, and his performance reflected that: a near total victory.
But over the years... something changed. He continued to compete even after several other New-Stars/Unlimited Cliffers stopped. He was brought on to help test Asian Sasuke spinoffs, but then, in Sasuke 31... it was like a switch had been flipped. That happy, excited Ryo we'd once seen was gone. In his place, we got someone looking tired, nervous and honestly none too happy to be there. Yes, the show's editing changing likely has something to do with it, but I refuse to believe it isn't also partially due to the man himself. His performances have gone down the drain: not a single Stage 1 clear in five tournaments despite having a 2nd near Total Victory four years ago. He's gotten close, but just seems to lack the resolve to see things through.
I'm honestly intrigued as to what may be causing this. It can't be age: he's still only 28, young by Sasuke standards, and in what is supposed to be the prime of his career. Is it him slacking on training? Doubtful, because he still seems to have the potential to do well, we saw that in ANW's USA vs. in 2015. Is it attitude? In the past, Arsenette has commented that success made him cocky, but surely years of failure have humbled him somewhat? Is it a mental barrier ala Yuuji or Yamada? Maybe, but his varied fails doesn't make it seem like he has any particular fears or weaknesses.
This is only a puzzle not only I'm interested in solving, but I hope he solves too, and soon. He just has too much proven potential to stay down, and too many years of potentially golden performances left. I feel like just below the surface lies a truly formidable competitor looking to ascend back into the top-tier alongside Morimoto, Drew and Kawaguchi, but something is holding him back. I'm interested in hearing your thoughts.
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Post by Dazed (Wiin) on Oct 11, 2018 18:02:23 GMT -5
As Badalight has mentioned previously, Ryo barely ever trains nowadays.
Additional Idea (that always shocks everyone): Ryo smokes. I'm not sure how much, but despite of your age and how long you've been doing it, if you smoke too much (I'm not even sure if it comes down to the amount you smoke or if you just get unlucky), physical activities can become so much harder. There are some people in this world who are teenagers, but can't even go running due to how much smoking has affected them (breathing can become very difficult, as you could hopefully imagine). This could be the case for Ryo. Of course, his Fish Bone fail wouldn't be entirely from this cause, but it is entirely possible for his Soritatsu Kabe fails.
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Post by PsychoDelusion on Oct 11, 2018 18:26:20 GMT -5
While he hasn't shown any rays of hope in recent tournament, I still believe that he can return to form if he finds the motivation again. He's really young and has the experience of a veteran. It's all in his will to get to the tower. His best tournaments in terms of age and strength are still ahead of him.
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Post by kianmike on Oct 11, 2018 18:26:53 GMT -5
My guess would be that he fails Stage 1 intentionally, due to a phobia of being the Takeda of this generation, in that he'd be the guy who's almost always but never quite gets there. And if you know Takeda, you know that he always doubted he could get all the way to Nagano's level, and it's the same with Ryo always doubting he can get to Morimoto's level. And this self-doubt causes him to choke, and subconsciously, cause self-sabotage. And in SASUKE 35, Ryo HIGHLY expected to fail the Dragon Glider, and when he landed on the end-platform, he has the philosophy of "Oh, crap, now I have to fail the wall, because if I don't, then there'll be expectations on me." Interestingly, according to Discord user Sierra, she thinks that based off her time in university, she thinks that Ryo has developed an awfully severe coping mechanism, where since he can't meet his expectations, his brain causes him to choke at some point on Stage 1. So basically, if he ever wants to be a 5-time SASUKE quarter-finalist, he needs to see a psychiatrist about this alleged "condition", because it's VERRYY obvious that his mental game has been 1T% obliterated (T standing for trillion). But that's just based off what I've heard on Discord.
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Oct 11, 2018 18:42:17 GMT -5
I worry since he got 100 back in 31 he just hasn't been the same. Suddenly a whole slew of people are expecting success. We know Yuuji never could take 100 very well but I fear Ryo may be even worse. He can't take the pressure. 35 saw one of his BETTER runs as of lately but something about the wall is eating away at him. As far as I'm seeing it (Yuuji's Youtube) really BOTH of them have been training hard. I feel he will bounce back but the main question is... does HE think he can clear again. We can't answer that question. Only Ryo Matachi can.
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Post by Badalight on Oct 11, 2018 21:05:02 GMT -5
He's just checked out. You can't force yourself to be motivated. I used to train religiously for Sasuke/ANW and I simply don't anymore. The motivation is gone. I enjoy competing, but there is no drive to better myself. I'm sure Ryo is going through the exact same thing. In some ways, he probably already felt vindicated by simply getting to compete. Not only that, he made it to the final stage. That probably counts as a win in his book. For me, getting a chance at ANW/Sasuke was really all I wanted. I would have preferred to go far, obviously, but competing was the goal. After that, it was like a switch had been turned off. There was no conscious decision on my part, I just felt at peace with the situation. Ryo doesn't train anymore. That's the fact.
It could also be due to smoking or his cocky attitude, but I really don't think that's it. I think competing at ANW Vs. the Word showed him just how far behind he is in the grand scheme of things, and that probably hurt his confidence significantly. He was never able to build any huge star power like the all-stars, and that probably didn't help either.
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Post by Eclipse on Oct 12, 2018 10:13:28 GMT -5
My guess would be that he fails Stage 1 intentionally, due to a phobia of being the Takeda of this generation, in that he'd be the guy who's almost always but never quite gets there. And if you know Takeda, you know that he always doubted he could get all the way to Nagano's level, and it's the same with Ryo always doubting he can get to Morimoto's level. And this self-doubt causes him to choke, and subconsciously, cause self-sabotage. And in SASUKE 35, Ryo HIGHLY expected to fail the Dragon Glider, and when he landed on the end-platform, he has the philosophy of "Oh, crap, now I have to fail the wall, because if I don't, then there'll be expectations on me." Interestingly, according to Discord user Sierra, she thinks that based off her time in university, she thinks that Ryo has developed an awfully severe coping mechanism, where since he can't meet his expectations, his brain causes him to choke at some point on Stage 1. So basically, if he ever wants to be a 5-time SASUKE quarter-finalist, he needs to see a psychiatrist about this alleged "condition", because it's VERRYY obvious that his mental game has been 1T% obliterated (T standing for trillion). But that's just based off what I've heard on Discord. He's just checked out. You can't force yourself to be motivated. I used to train religiously for Sasuke/ANW and I simply don't anymore. The motivation is gone. I enjoy competing, but there is no drive to better myself. I'm sure Ryo is going through the exact same thing. In some ways, he probably already felt vindicated by simply getting to compete. Not only that, he made it to the final stage. That probably counts as a win in his book. For me, getting a chance at ANW/Sasuke was really all I wanted. I would have preferred to go far, obviously, but competing was the goal. After that, it was like a switch had been turned off. There was no conscious decision on my part, I just felt at peace with the situation. Ryo doesn't train anymore. That's the fact. It could also be due to smoking or his cocky attitude, but I really don't think that's it. I think competing at ANW Vs. the Word showed him just how far behind he is in the grand scheme of things, and that probably hurt his confidence significantly. He was never able to build any huge star power like the all-stars, and that probably didn't help either. Here's sort of a rough transcript of what I've said with some changes to respond to the comments above. Keep in mind this is ultimately my opinion, but I do feel like this is the case. So Sasuke 27 happens, Ryo makes his breakthrough, and his friend Yuuji gets his 2nd win. After a couple more solid Stage 2's in the renewal, Ryo is now starting to become one of "the guys". Sasuke 30 comes around, Ryo beasts onto the Final Stage and does great. Presumably, one could expect with some more training, he could win it all. Ryo follows this up by heading over to Sasuke Vietnam with Inui, and effectively unofficially clears as a course tester / demonstrator. At this point, TBS is really fond of him, and at the time, you could have almost argued he's on his way to be show favorite or a "SASUKE-kun" equivalent. Sasuke 31, Ryo gets #100, solidifying his role in the show. He has an honest choke - it happens to everyone and this isn't world ending. Morimoto has his golden run and gets the Kanzen. Ryo is still one of the "guys", but no longer front and center. Sasuke 32 happens and Ryo again - close, but underwhelming performance. But it happens to everyone from time to time and I think Ryo is still "in the game" at this point. As 32 is wrapping up, everyone sees the new renewal course and that it is significantly harder. As you'd expect most people to do given the buff, Ryo now expresses self doubt that he can actually do this when it comes down to it. Having gone from the top of the world down to a B-List cast, Ryo takes this a bit more personally and he's afraid to be the new Takeda - the guy who almost always but never quite gets there. (Which I think is still respectable, but could definitely be a fear for someone who wants a win.) Somewhere between 32 and 34 is when Ryo hit's the checkout point, and now his self-defense mechanism kicks in, where his own self doubt causes him to choke and subconsciously self sabotage. There are a lot of ways this can manifest, but you can tell by his body language in recent seasons that this is happening. For example. Everybody is practicing the tackle, we've even seen Ryo practice the tackle. None of the higher level competitors are going to be unfamiliar with this, and it's a pretty intuitive thing to understand that you want constant momentum while going through. The way Ryo did the tackle makes literally no sense, as nobody else has done it this way on the show before, and he has trained a different way. For all intents and purposes - this was a completely novel behavior. In general, why would a pro athlete try a new technique they have never ever done on game day? Sometimes chokes and on the fly ideas happen, but for the most part it doesn't make sense. The fact again tried the tackle with completely unseen technique in Sasuke 35 furthers this because now that's no longer a choke as much as a trend. In Sasuke 35, Ryo executes what I would consider a nearly flawless run through to the dragon glider. Potentially the cleanest anyone had done up to this point in the show. His reaction here is interesting though, because his body language immediately went from cool and collected to anxious, almost like he expected to fail the glider and when he passed his brain went "oh no people will start having expectations of me soon, especially if I hit Stage 2.". His technique on the Tackle again, made no sense. And then on the other side, I've heard Ryo had great results as a course tester, and in Indonesia when expectations were split and low, he nearly made Stage 4 with ease, not really even phased. As put by Badalight, he has definitely "checked out", although I disagree with the reasons stated. He has definitely lost on the mental game, and I think it wouldn't hurt for him to see a counselor or something about it. I don't think he actively throwing it, but his body language and reactions indicate to me that he's not doing okay. I'm not super sure I agree with your comment about ANW, because he has competed internationally other times at the top of his class. I think this is the type of check out that's more like "I don't care because I care too much and not caring is the only way I can get by without getting down on myself". This is definitely my opinion, but I personally do believe it is the case, and to be honest, I think it's a 100% understandable and even natural reaction given the state he was in. From his point of view, he was pretty much ready to have it all, and a simple choke was enough of a setback that someone else stepped in and the difficulty went up outside of his control, and he is having a hard time coming to terms with that. I think that one of the seasons soon, he's going to clear Stage 1 again, and that's going to be really good for him. He will have to deal with this and hopefully then his competitive instincts are going to kick in. I am still voting that yes he will bounce back. I do think he'll see Stage 2 again, on his own schedule. While he hasn't shown any rays of hope in recent tournament, I still believe that he can return to form if he finds the motivation again. He's really young and has the experience of a veteran. It's all in his will to get to the tower. His best tournaments in terms of age and strength are still ahead of him. I do agree with you. Statistically, he still has game based on his age and strength, and if he can overcome some mental blocks, he's still got the ability to go far. A Ryo with the mental block gone is back up to Top 10 overall on Sasuke, MAYBE even top 5 depending on his training regiment.
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Post by zoran on Oct 12, 2018 10:58:17 GMT -5
Id say its more physical than mental to be honest
Sasuke 31:Times out on the Warped Wall due to fatigue on the tackle,considering his light weight frame and this being the Tackles introduction(no way to train for it)it honestly was predictable when he failed+plus Nagano and Yuuji failing at the same spot probably didn't help with the pressure
Sasuke 32:Time out on the Tarzan rope again due to fatigue on the UPGRADED tackle.It was predictable too, the weight increase from 31 to 32 was massive over a half.Ryo has always struggled on the Warped Wall even before the Tackle.It was a miracle he was even able to make it up the Wall.
Sasuke 33:Fishbone fail.Its a new obstacle for him.One that tests balance and speed.His balance has never really been tested before on the show.Id actually say he was probably cocky on the obstacle and then got a wake up call on it.
Sasuke 34;Double Pendulum fail.The Pendulum bar was upgraded from Sasuke 33.This probably caught him of guard(a change he couldn't train for)and as such failed there, not really mental.
Sasuke 35:Warped wall time out.With the massively reduced time limit, it again was no real surprise he failed here.
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Post by Dazed (Wiin) on Oct 12, 2018 15:45:59 GMT -5
So, after he failed the wall in SASUKE 35, he said: [Stuff some in Japanese]... Which apparently, first he said: "That was easy." And the second thing he said was "I was in a rush so I couldn't breathe."
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Post by TCM on Oct 12, 2018 16:16:03 GMT -5
Ryo's not even 30. There's no way his physical limit has been reached when Hioki and Darvish cleared the stage in their mid 30s when Hioki has never cleared a Cliffhanger he's faced in competition and Darvish hasn't even cleared Stage 2 (and he himself like Hioki have shown in practice they're capable of doing the CCH gap). He was just the 3rd to clear the Dragon Glider by his run and had 20 seconds left at the Wall.
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Post by Badalight on Oct 12, 2018 20:14:15 GMT -5
I think you're completely off base. While I haven't met Ryo personally, I have talked to many people that have (I live here in Japan and have done some training with various people). They all tell me similar things to what I have said.
Ryo does not train. He doesn't go to those training sessions with his friends anymore. He was never at any of the ones I went to. He is never in the pictures or videos I see them post to facebook/youtube. They have said he only trains 1 month prior to Sasuke, and that's it.
I don't believe he is "failing on purpose" as you have put it. He is simply failing - normally. As I said, he is checked out. Once I was checked out on ANW, I started failing in places that I really shouldn't have. I had the physical strength to pass the course, and mentally I was okay. Yet, I was still failing on stupid things.
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Post by Eclipse on Oct 12, 2018 20:39:00 GMT -5
I think you're completely off base. While I haven't met Ryo personally, I have talked to many people that have (I live here in Japan and have done some training with various people). They all tell me similar things to what I have said. Ryo does not train. He doesn't go to those training sessions with his friends anymore. He was never at any of the ones I went to. He is never in the pictures or videos I see them post to facebook/youtube. They have said he only trains 1 month prior to Sasuke, and that's it. I don't believe he is "failing on purpose" as you have put it. He is simply failing - normally. As I said, he is checked out. Once I was checked out on ANW, I started failing in places that I really shouldn't have. I had the physical strength to pass the course, and mentally I was okay. Yet, I was still failing on stupid things. That's totally fair. As I said, it was definitely my opinion based off of my read, having seen similar things from other people before. If you're talking to people who know him you're definitely more in the know regarding that so you're definitely more credible than me. I never thought it exactly as "failing on purpose" as much as "psyching himself out during his run".
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Post by Badalight on Oct 13, 2018 7:23:29 GMT -5
I think you're completely off base. While I haven't met Ryo personally, I have talked to many people that have (I live here in Japan and have done some training with various people). They all tell me similar things to what I have said. Ryo does not train. He doesn't go to those training sessions with his friends anymore. He was never at any of the ones I went to. He is never in the pictures or videos I see them post to facebook/youtube. They have said he only trains 1 month prior to Sasuke, and that's it. I don't believe he is "failing on purpose" as you have put it. He is simply failing - normally. As I said, he is checked out. Once I was checked out on ANW, I started failing in places that I really shouldn't have. I had the physical strength to pass the course, and mentally I was okay. Yet, I was still failing on stupid things. That's totally fair. As I said, it was definitely my opinion based off of my read, having seen similar things from other people before. If you're talking to people who know him you're definitely more in the know regarding that so you're definitely more credible than me. I never thought it exactly as "failing on purpose" as much as "psyching himself out during his run". Yeah well, still - the only person who would know for sure is Ryo himself. Like I said, I haven't ever met him personally. All of my info is second hand information, so I'm really just parroting the opinions of others who actually have met him. Physically he is probably at one of his weaker points he's ever been, but it's not like it takes all that much to pass stage 1. He definitely has what it takes to at least reach the cliff-hanger. Things are different when you aren't taking it seriously or your heart isn't into it. Just mental barriers. Also, he was never particularly good at the warped wall.
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Post by DeAndre on Oct 13, 2018 9:49:52 GMT -5
Although I never began watching Sasuke until 34, I knew Ryo physically was capable. Clearing Stage Three of ANW in 2014 and being one of the first to do it along side Brian Arnold, Stefano Ghisolfi and his own teammate Yusuke, is amazing. Getting to the Warped Wall in a year in which so many weren't even able to clear the damn Dragon Glider in the first place also solidifies this. But as you guys have said, I've never seen him really look energetic or enthusiastic, or have one of his signature 'Shas' anymore. And furthermore, when you see him do the wall, sometimes he'll just go up, like a regular attempt, but then pull back and give it a little touch at a particular point below the top for no reason. If his mental recovers, I think he could go all the way, but in the meantime I guess we'll see.
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Oct 13, 2018 18:44:45 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, Ryo looked happy on the Start line in 31, and even expressed something positive to the crowd. Then he came across the Tackle and struggled...badly. He just looked completely shocked after he failed the Warped Wall, and I imagine that that's been on his mind ever since- even moreso considering how well he'd done in the previous tournament.
It's interesting about the theory of "self-sabotage", as I believe that's what Yamada used to do in his runs, even in his prime.
For Ryo I'm guessing something along the lines of what Badalight has said- I think he's basically over Sasuke at this point. He's been going after it for most of his life, and he may harbour some negative feelings towards it. Maybe the thought of competing makes him cold, or even anxious. Fascinating stuff to discuss, because we've never really seen this happen in Sasuke before. This happens in pretty much every sport.
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Post by arsenette on Oct 14, 2018 20:30:43 GMT -5
Everyone is forgetting that life does not exist in a vacuum. In the midst of all of this he went and competed in other events worldwide and specifically in the USA he came face to face with real talent. Sasuke is watered down (especially M9 version) compared to any variation of ANW. Once he came here life changed and it was not for the good. Sitting in watching him in person in 31 and 32 (he didn't want to speak with me) you see his demeanor being very negative. I talked to Yuuji a lot (the only person Ryo speaks to) and he said it himself that he sees Japan left in the dust. I talked to him about general attitude and that the Shin Sedai don't smile. If you noticed of late both of the are now smiling and talking to people where they didn't before. But BOTH admit that they are from the previous generation and they can't hope to catch up. Yuuji has come to terms with it though he already has 2 titles under his belt. IMO Ryo knows he blew his 2 best chances and is just running out the clock. None of them train anymore because they know it's over. Inui continually ramp the difficulty based on their weaknesses and it's working. I don't see Ryo ever getting to the Final again. If he does train at all it is always 3rd stage. He always neglects the stamina needed of the first 2 stages and that is why he fails every single time.
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Post by zoran on Oct 15, 2018 10:57:52 GMT -5
Everyone is forgetting that life does not exist in a vacuum. In the midst of all of this he went and competed in other events worldwide and specifically in the USA he came face to face with real talent. Sasuke is watered down (especially M9 version) compared to any variation of ANW. Once he came here life changed and it was not for the good. Sitting in watching him in person in 31 and 32 (he didn't want to speak with me) you see his demeanor being very negative. I talked to Yuuji a lot (the only person Ryo speaks to) and he said it himself that he sees Japan left in the dust. I talked to him about general attitude and that the Shin Sedai don't smile. If you noticed of late both of the are now smiling and talking to people where they didn't before. But BOTH admit that they are from the previous generation and they can't hope to catch up. Yuuji has come to terms with it though he already has 2 titles under his belt. IMO Ryo knows he blew his 2 best chances and is just running out the clock. None of them train anymore because they know it's over. Inui continually ramp the difficulty based on their weaknesses and it's working. I don't see Ryo ever getting to the Final again. If he does train at all it is always 3rd stage. He always neglects the stamina needed of the first 2 stages and that is why he fails every single time. I disagree that Sasuke is watered down from Anw.In a lot of ways Sasuke is actually alot harder with obstacles like the Tie Fighter,Triple Tackle-Warped Wall combo,strict time limit etc.In Anw stage 1 clears go up to the 40s in Sasuke it has never gone above 37 and that was back in 1999.Anw doesn't have insanely difficult obstacles like the Vertical limit or ucch in its stage 3.As for stage 2, yeah Anw wins by a mile in that department.Stage 4 sasuke wins by a mile as its not just a rope climb.
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Post by arsenette on Oct 15, 2018 11:01:51 GMT -5
Everyone is forgetting that life does not exist in a vacuum. In the midst of all of this he went and competed in other events worldwide and specifically in the USA he came face to face with real talent. Sasuke is watered down (especially M9 version) compared to any variation of ANW. Once he came here life changed and it was not for the good. Sitting in watching him in person in 31 and 32 (he didn't want to speak with me) you see his demeanor being very negative. I talked to Yuuji a lot (the only person Ryo speaks to) and he said it himself that he sees Japan left in the dust. I talked to him about general attitude and that the Shin Sedai don't smile. If you noticed of late both of the are now smiling and talking to people where they didn't before. But BOTH admit that they are from the previous generation and they can't hope to catch up. Yuuji has come to terms with it though he already has 2 titles under his belt. IMO Ryo knows he blew his 2 best chances and is just running out the clock. None of them train anymore because they know it's over. Inui continually ramp the difficulty based on their weaknesses and it's working. I don't see Ryo ever getting to the Final again. If he does train at all it is always 3rd stage. He always neglects the stamina needed of the first 2 stages and that is why he fails every single time. I disagree that Sasuke is watered down from Anw.In a lot of ways Sasuke is actually alot harder with obstacles like the Tie Fighter,Triple Tackle-Warped Wall combo,strict time limit etc.In Anw stage 1 clears go up to the 40s in Sasuke it has never gone above 37 and that was back in 1999.Anw doesn't have insanely difficult obstacles like the Vertical limit or ucch in its stage 3.As for stage 2, yeah Anw wins by a mile in that department.Stage 4 sasuke wins by a mile as its not just a rope climb. Meaning that the odds of Ryo GETTING to Stage 3 (his specialty) in Sasuke vs. ANW is not even up to debate. He realized that coming to the USA and seeing it firsthand. That was his tipping point.
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Post by zoran on Oct 15, 2018 12:36:05 GMT -5
I disagree that Sasuke is watered down from Anw.In a lot of ways Sasuke is actually alot harder with obstacles like the Tie Fighter,Triple Tackle-Warped Wall combo,strict time limit etc.In Anw stage 1 clears go up to the 40s in Sasuke it has never gone above 37 and that was back in 1999.Anw doesn't have insanely difficult obstacles like the Vertical limit or ucch in its stage 3.As for stage 2, yeah Anw wins by a mile in that department.Stage 4 sasuke wins by a mile as its not just a rope climb. Meaning that the odds of Ryo GETTING to Stage 3 (his specialty) in Sasuke vs. ANW is not even up to debate. He realized that coming to the USA and seeing it firsthand. That was his tipping point. I'm not sure about that.After the first USA vs the world, Ryo made it to the final in the tournament after.In Anw 6 he cleared the demanding third stage, the primary reason he failed on 31 was mental rather than physical, the Tackle was designed specifically to crush him, he had zero way of predicting or training for it.For SASUKE 32, He did really fell, it was the fact the tackle had such a major modification in weight the he failed, he even managed in the end to make it up the wall.After that, he didn't compete in anymore VS contests and in 33 and 34, thats when mentally he checked out. If anything you could argue ANW was motivation for him.
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Post by arsenette on Oct 15, 2018 16:30:14 GMT -5
Meaning that the odds of Ryo GETTING to Stage 3 (his specialty) in Sasuke vs. ANW is not even up to debate. He realized that coming to the USA and seeing it firsthand. That was his tipping point. I'm not sure about that.After the first USA vs the world, Ryo made it to the final in the tournament after.In Anw 6 he cleared the demanding third stage, the primary reason he failed on 31 was mental rather than physical, the Tackle was designed specifically to crush him, he had zero way of predicting or training for it.For SASUKE 32, He did really fell, it was the fact the tackle had such a major modification in weight the he failed, he even managed in the end to make it up the wall.After that, he didn't compete in anymore VS contests and in 33 and 34, thats when mentally he checked out. If anything you could argue ANW was motivation for him. I did say ANW was the motivating factor.. not sure where you read otherwise. In a tournament you have to get through the whole 4 stage course. Remember how badly he did in the 1st stage in ANW. As for where I got this, I'm just going by what Yuuji told me about the experience as it was a topic I brought up in regards to the Shin Sedai and why I specifically didn't bond with them.
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