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Post by m4tt3r0x on Feb 26, 2018 22:58:02 GMT -5
I think people are forgetting there may still be no rest between the vertical limit kai and pipe slider. The green bar was allegedly blocked off previously
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Post by TCM on Feb 26, 2018 23:16:48 GMT -5
I think people are forgetting there may still be no rest between the vertical limit kai and pipe slider. The green bar was allegedly blocked off previously There's a picture of Inui showing the Flying Bar -> Sidewinder Kai as the start. There's no platforms past the end of the Planet Bridge except the finish mat. The green bar was blocked off for 33 but was back to normal as a resting spot in 34.
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Post by Role Playing Garchomp on Feb 27, 2018 0:45:42 GMT -5
Don't know, probably won't find out till it airs. That's how it's usually been.
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Post by gt4dom on Feb 27, 2018 2:55:51 GMT -5
Yeaa this is just going to be another UCCH or VLKK finish sadly
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Post by Messup434 on Feb 27, 2018 6:43:13 GMT -5
Yeaa this is just going to be another UCCH or VLKK finish sadly Or maybe Planet Bridge
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Post by Role Playing Garchomp on Feb 27, 2018 11:06:24 GMT -5
Yeaa this is just going to be another UCCH or VLKK finish sadly And tie the record for most tournaments in a row without a final.
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Post by Philip on Feb 27, 2018 12:05:00 GMT -5
I'm glad about the changes. Just as I was starting to lose hope, they freshen things up yay
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Post by dudesky1000 on Feb 27, 2018 14:42:01 GMT -5
That planet thing is the coolest new obstacle in a while. Looks awesome!
I also think having the Flying Bar first is probably the best place to put it. If we have to keep it, best to get it over with right away. The obstacle has always been more about technique than strength. And it honestly felt a little redundant after the Drum Hopper, which was an interesting idea but ran its course.
Third Stage is definitely looking mighty difficult. If you swapped the Flying Bar and Sidewinder combo with the Roulette Cylinder and Doorknob combo I'd say its the most difficult ever.
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Post by Messup434 on Feb 27, 2018 15:52:08 GMT -5
Maybe Backstream has been removed but who knows? On the picture of the Planet Bridge, you can see all of Stage 2 outside of the first obstacle (which probably won't change) in the background. The translation on that picture says that this is farewell to the Drum Hopper - and now joining the ranks of the Arm Bike in never taking anyone out So it’ll start with the Flying Bar/Sidewinder and go to the new obstacle then the usual setup. It’s strange to see how Inui is cutting-out parts of stages completely (last two obstacles in First Stage, first obstacle in Third Stage). So there’s definitely nothing exciting in the Second Stage, right? Stage 3 wasn't "cut out" in any way -- One obstacle was retired with another new obstacle being added and an existing obstacle was moved up to allow space for the new obstacle. The Drum Hopper got removed and they added Planet Bridge but they wanted it to go 3rd so they moved the Flying Bar -> Sidewinder Kai up to the first two positions. That was exactly what happened in 31 when the Drum Hopper was moved from 3rd to 1st while the Rumbling Dice was dropped and the original Sidewinder was added in the 3rd position. Stage 3 is still six obstacles, and has been since 28. Yeah, that's true. Honestly haven't really seen those tournaments so didn't even remember how Drum Hopper took-over for Rumbling Dice, but now I do. Guess it just seems weird to me that the first half of the stage was "slid backward one position," so to speak. And I guess I don't see the Flying Bar as as much of a stage-starter as the Drum Hopper was (though that should change with time). It will be a brutal first obstacle though. Which takes me to SasukeSprinter's comment on the Flying Bar being redundant ( ), because I disagree with that a bit. I didn't see it to be very redundant, due to the fact that it took out so many in 33 and one or two in the others where it featured. While both the Drum Hopper and Flying Bar have a jumping movement, the latter of the two also involves moving a bar with you on the jump, which makes it more difficult. I could kind of see calling the Drum Hopper pointless, although it did function nicely as a strength-drainer. If there's definitely no rest platform between the UCCH/VLKK, I'd call this the most difficult Stage Three yet. A quick comparison: The Ultimate Cliffhanger was very difficult, but I think the combo of Vertical Limit and Ultra Crazy Cliffhanger is far more challenging. You could argue that the Flying Bar is more difficult than the Pipe Slider, which I'd probably agree with. But even then, we have a bit of Flying Bar to start this stage off. I will also agree that Roulette Cylinder is more draining than the Flying Bar (though the Bar has much higher fail-rate due to technique), but Sidewinder R Kai is definitely tougher and more exhausting than it's predecessor. And I'm not sure about comparing the Floating Boards to the Planet Bridge, although I will say that the Boards probably do take more grip-strength. So the scoreboard is pretty close, but the UCCH/VLKK combo far outdoes the Ultimate Cliffhanger, so I'd have to say this is the hardest course yet.
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Post by TCM on Feb 27, 2018 16:13:30 GMT -5
That guy really was desperate..! Why would he have even tried to discredit Yuuji?He had no beef with Yuuji and had nothing to gain from attacking him The shoe accusation wasn't even the first time Yamada shaded Yuuji. A couple years prior to 24, during a festival featuring a mini Sasuke competition where Nagano, Takeda, Shingo and Yamada were competing in with the general public, Yuuji had been the overall winner. After his run, he went to shake Yamada's hand and Yamada more or less blew him off barely grabbing it and walking away. Sasuke has shown that clip numerous times, edited down to just barely a couple seconds of it because of how awkward it was. Yamada is a jerk, and that's the nice way to describe him.
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Post by arsenette on Feb 27, 2018 16:27:45 GMT -5
Why would he have even tried to discredit Yuuji?He had no beef with Yuuji and had nothing to gain from attacking him The shoe accusation wasn't even the first time Yamada shaded Yuuji. A couple years prior to 24, during a festival featuring a mini Sasuke competition where Nagano, Takeda, Shingo and Yamada were competing in with the general public, Yuuji had been the overall winner. After his run, he went to shake Yamada's hand and Yamada more or less blew him off barely grabbing it and walking away. Sasuke has shown that clip numerous times, edited down to just barely a couple seconds of it because of how awkward it was. Yamada is a jerk, and that's the nice way to describe him. The famous BUG IN MIKI episode... I can't believe 10 years have passed.. geeeeeez..
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Post by TCM on Feb 27, 2018 17:15:22 GMT -5
The shoe accusation wasn't even the first time Yamada shaded Yuuji. A couple years prior to 24, during a festival featuring a mini Sasuke competition where Nagano, Takeda, Shingo and Yamada were competing in with the general public, Yuuji had been the overall winner. After his run, he went to shake Yamada's hand and Yamada more or less blew him off barely grabbing it and walking away. Sasuke has shown that clip numerous times, edited down to just barely a couple seconds of it because of how awkward it was. Yamada is a jerk, and that's the nice way to describe him. The famous BUG IN MIKI episode... I can't believe 10 years have passed.. geeeeeez.. 10 years later and people still reference Yuuji with a "yeah, but"
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Post by DonalM on Feb 27, 2018 19:23:31 GMT -5
Not sure why everyone's so excited about an already impossible stage getting made even harder.
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Post by Messup434 on Feb 27, 2018 19:28:44 GMT -5
Not sure why everyone's so excited about an already impossible stage getting made even harder. Because we got a new obstacle! And also the next win may mean the final toiurnament so I dont wanna see one anytime soon!
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Post by TCM on Feb 27, 2018 21:01:52 GMT -5
As someone who is leaning on the side of hoping this doesn't make the stage anticlimactic results wise, I do appreciate them putting original, interesting concepts in Stage 3. I would have been satisfied just seeing the Body Prop, getting the Planet Bridge is even cooler.
I just don't know if I would debuted this in a cold environment. We've seen how difficult a technique-heavy Cliffhanger is damn near impossible in the cold. But hey, new obstacles, can't complain too much.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Feb 28, 2018 1:16:41 GMT -5
Odd thought, the Flying Bar is now the 1st and only obstacle to both be the first and last obstacle of a Stage 3.
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Post by roy on Feb 28, 2018 4:22:56 GMT -5
I thought Sasuke already had the hardest stage 3 in the world, but it looks like it just got even tougher...I mean the flying bar into sidewinder was tough as hell already, and now the flying bar is the very first obstacle. And it is followed by a brand new obstacle. I'm not expecting anything close to a clear, especially because it's winter.
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Post by zoran on Feb 28, 2018 12:34:38 GMT -5
Why would he have even tried to discredit Yuuji?He had no beef with Yuuji and had nothing to gain from attacking him The shoe accusation wasn't even the first time Yamada shaded Yuuji. A couple years prior to 24, during a festival featuring a mini Sasuke competition where Nagano, Takeda, Shingo and Yamada were competing in with the general public, Yuuji had been the overall winner. After his run, he went to shake Yamada's hand and Yamada more or less blew him off barely grabbing it and walking away. Sasuke has shown that clip numerous times, edited down to just barely a couple seconds of it because of how awkward it was. Yamada is a jerk, and that's the nice way to describe him. I think its more Yamada is jealous of Yuuji.Seeing a kid with just started competing 3 tournaments ago do better than you have done in 22 tournaments would be pretty disheartening for Yamada.The sad thing is that its only Yamada's age which is holding him back from doing well.If he was a bit younger id say he could probably clear stage 1 and perhaps 2.Its good he owned up for his mistakes in tourney 28.
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Post by arsenette on Feb 28, 2018 12:41:52 GMT -5
The shoe accusation wasn't even the first time Yamada shaded Yuuji. A couple years prior to 24, during a festival featuring a mini Sasuke competition where Nagano, Takeda, Shingo and Yamada were competing in with the general public, Yuuji had been the overall winner. After his run, he went to shake Yamada's hand and Yamada more or less blew him off barely grabbing it and walking away. Sasuke has shown that clip numerous times, edited down to just barely a couple seconds of it because of how awkward it was. Yamada is a jerk, and that's the nice way to describe him. I think its more Yamada is jealous of Yuuji.Seeing a kid with just started competing 3 tournaments ago do better than you have done in 22 tournaments would be pretty disheartening for Yamada.The sad thing is that its only Yamada's age which is holding him back from doing well.If he was a bit younger id say he could probably clear stage 1 and perhaps 2.Its good he owned up for his mistakes in tourney 28. He hasn't changed.. trust me.. his confession was not his idea. It's good at least that after 20 years he said something about it when confronted on camera but it wasn't his idea. But it's not just Yuuji he is jealous.. it's everyone that is not him. Nagano is the only person he adores and borderline worships but Yamada hasn't changed.. it's just his personality and that sucker is ingrained by this point. All anyone has learned to do is deal with it and after 20 years they are now pros. Most just ignore him and it's painfully obvious when you see it on the lot during taping. Anyway let's just stick to obstacles in the thread. Tourney hasn't even aired yet!
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Post by DonalM on Feb 28, 2018 19:04:56 GMT -5
Odd thought, the Flying Bar is now the 1st and only obstacle to both be the first and last obstacle of a Stage 3. 1st to be the 1st and last obstacle of any stage ever? (not including stage 4)
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