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Post by arsenette on Feb 16, 2016 11:40:58 GMT -5
I follow Strat on Twitter and ran into this. Instagram LinkI'm positive it had to do with ANW7's final with the solo millionaire fiasco. However, do you think it's 500K for everyone? or Top prize with a cap? Feel free to speculate how the top prize will be applied.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Feb 16, 2016 11:50:48 GMT -5
I assume it's probably the same rules that it's always been, I think the reason things were doubled from the usual last year was the Pom sponsorship, it just happened to fall at a convenient time for Isaac.
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Post by Philip on Feb 16, 2016 11:58:23 GMT -5
Note the old logo, I think that they just copy-pasted the description from previous years.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Feb 16, 2016 12:00:32 GMT -5
Note the old logo, I think that they just copy-pasted the description from previous years. You know that's a very good point as well, I've been used to seeing that copypasta and picture since ANW5 I forgot to pay attention to the fact that well... They've been using it since ANW5
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Post by arsenette on Feb 16, 2016 12:13:02 GMT -5
I assume it's probably the same rules that it's always been, I think the reason things were doubled from the usual last year was the Pom sponsorship, it just happened to fall at a convenient time for Isaac. IMO obviously, I think that's going to change. The furor over Geoff getting ZERO is still hot to this day.. they HAVE to give something to the "runner up"... that fact that there IS a runner up is enough to be salty.
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Post by davidcampbell on Mar 5, 2016 4:10:02 GMT -5
In my opinion there's a winner every year (last man standing). They never get a prize, though they should...something at least.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2016 5:31:37 GMT -5
I'd rather make the prize $2 Million. That means if there are two winners they could share a million each! THAT SHOULD'VE HAPPENED LAST YEAR!!!
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Post by evan on Mar 5, 2016 15:44:32 GMT -5
In my opinion there's a winner every year (last man standing). They never get a prize, though they should...something at least. this ^
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Post by tgf2k on Mar 6, 2016 1:22:18 GMT -5
Note that OCA is not the official source for things of this nature. I'm going to be in Atlanta for the filming, so when I get a look at the contract packet I'll update with confirmed info.
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Post by arsenette on Mar 9, 2016 12:32:23 GMT -5
Note that OCA is not the official source for things of this nature. I'm going to be in Atlanta for the filming, so when I get a look at the contract packet I'll update with confirmed info. Thanks the NDA will have the breakdown of how they plan to do this. Much appreciated!
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Post by TCM on Mar 12, 2016 9:25:21 GMT -5
I'm fine with 500K so long as they provide it to multiple winners if the situation calls for it (if this is true and not a re-post on the website of old data as a placeholder). I feel the same if it's still $1 Million or more. They can always make the money proportional to add up to the grand prize if necessary (only 1 winner: all of it; 2 winners: split pot or fastest time gets majority cut like say, 75/25 or 60/40; more than 2: proportional cut based off fastest time 75/20/10 or 60/30/10.
'Purist' in me would say 'everyone knows what they're getting into, no win, no money' but considering the amount of time needed to take off presuming you go far in the competition (and even more time if a walk on hoping to get on the show), a reward for LMS (as in whomever goes the farthest without beating Stage 4 since contestant order is random), I'm no longer opposed to. If qualifying is $2,500, and city finals is $5,000, Vegas should be $10,000. $7,500 if they want to be 'cheap.' No need to advertise it for the broadcast. You'll hear all those people who will get in their feelings of 'achievement' or some trite about whining about 'participation awards,' or 'rewarding failure' but people need to be reminded this is a reality competition and most importantly, a game show. Game shows provide supplemental cash prizes for reaching a certain point in the competition all the time. Reality competitors also are compensated for their time and potential money lost, you just only hear about the grand prize winner and maybe 2nd or 3rd's prizes.
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Post by arsenette on Mar 12, 2016 15:07:01 GMT -5
It's not even a purist attitude honestly.. the niche of ANW IS that if you don't win you don't get jack. That's the allure of the show so if you start doling out hard cash for 5th runner up it loses its mystique honestly.. As for actually clearing all 4 stages in Vegas.. THAT should be compensated and not just a pat on the back and a title that means nothing in the long run (since NBC doesn't know how to treat their champions..). I'm perfectly fine with doing small LMS in qualifying since everyone is guaranteed a winner there by nature of their rules (top whatever go to Vegas even if you failed to clear). I thought that was like that already though? Correct me if I'm wrong or did they get rid of that? I don't like the people straddling the line of this show being a reality show or sports show when it suits them. If it's sports show then the loser gets nothing.. if the 5th runner up failed on the 2nd obstacle and they get money THEN you call it a reality show. But to pick and chose which elements every season on a whim is being disingenuous to the show format - the thing people enjoyed about NW in the first place. Watch Wipeout if you wanted that is my own personal feeling. I don't like coddling losers. That does not apply to the final though.. if you get to the final and clear it you should be compensated. Period. None of this bullcrap that happened last year. That was stupid.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 13, 2016 19:32:08 GMT -5
It's not even a purist attitude honestly.. the niche of ANW IS that if you don't win you don't get jack. That's the allure of the show so if you start doling out hard cash for 5th runner up it loses its mystique honestly.. As for actually clearing all 4 stages in Vegas.. THAT should be compensated and not just a pat on the back and a title that means nothing in the long run (since NBC doesn't know how to treat their champions..). I'm perfectly fine with doing small LMS in qualifying since everyone is guaranteed a winner there by nature of their rules (top whatever go to Vegas even if you failed to clear). I thought that was like that already though? Correct me if I'm wrong or did they get rid of that? That's pretty much they've been doing anyways, top 30 (Or more if more people hit the button because if you clear you advance) from qualifying and fastest time gets $2500, top 15 from City Finals go to Vegas and fastest time gets $5000, if the same person gets both times the cash prizes add up (Say someone gets fastest time in qualifying and city finals, they get $7500)
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Post by arsenette on Mar 13, 2016 19:36:26 GMT -5
It's not even a purist attitude honestly.. the niche of ANW IS that if you don't win you don't get jack. That's the allure of the show so if you start doling out hard cash for 5th runner up it loses its mystique honestly.. As for actually clearing all 4 stages in Vegas.. THAT should be compensated and not just a pat on the back and a title that means nothing in the long run (since NBC doesn't know how to treat their champions..). I'm perfectly fine with doing small LMS in qualifying since everyone is guaranteed a winner there by nature of their rules (top whatever go to Vegas even if you failed to clear). I thought that was like that already though? Correct me if I'm wrong or did they get rid of that? That's pretty much they've been doing anyways, top 30 (Or more if more people hit the button because if you clear you advance) from qualifying and fastest time gets $2500, top 15 from City Finals go to Vegas and fastest time gets $5000, if the same person gets both times the cash prizes add up (Say someone gets fastest time in qualifying and city finals, they get $7500) No seriously.. did they get rid of it? Because I remember that being a "thing" in early ANW's getting a small amount for winning the regional + city. Did they take it out? If so, when?
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 13, 2016 19:41:20 GMT -5
That's pretty much they've been doing anyways, top 30 (Or more if more people hit the button because if you clear you advance) from qualifying and fastest time gets $2500, top 15 from City Finals go to Vegas and fastest time gets $5000, if the same person gets both times the cash prizes add up (Say someone gets fastest time in qualifying and city finals, they get $7500) No seriously.. did they get rid of it? Because I remember that being a "thing" in early ANW's getting a small amount for winning the regional + city. Did they take it out? If so, when? I was saying they still had it in, they never removed it, there just has been less reference to the "secret prize" (I.E. never acknowledged on TV but everyone who has competed knows) since everyone is used to it by now, it's still around unless they take it out this year but I highly doubt it, we'll find out later this week lol
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Post by arsenette on Mar 13, 2016 19:46:04 GMT -5
No seriously.. did they get rid of it? Because I remember that being a "thing" in early ANW's getting a small amount for winning the regional + city. Did they take it out? If so, when? I was saying they still had it in, they never removed it, there just has been less reference to the "secret prize" (I.E. never acknowledged on TV but everyone who has competed knows) since everyone is used to it by now, it's still around unless they take it out this year but I highly doubt it, we'll find out later this week lol Cool keep me posted. It just sounded like "hey this would be a great idea" on the thread and I kept going "wait.. they have that.. why are we talking in the past tense?" LOL
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Post by thatoneuser on Mar 13, 2016 22:17:32 GMT -5
That's pretty much they've been doing anyways, top 30 (Or more if more people hit the button because if you clear you advance) from qualifying and fastest time gets $2500, top 15 from City Finals go to Vegas and fastest time gets $5000, if the same person gets both times the cash prizes add up (Say someone gets fastest time in qualifying and city finals, they get $7500) No seriously.. did they get rid of it? Because I remember that being a "thing" in early ANW's getting a small amount for winning the regional + city. Did they take it out? If so, when? It was still a thing as of 2015, I had personal confirmation that Elet received his $2500 for being the fastest in Pittsburgh qualifying
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Post by tgf2k on Mar 14, 2016 14:24:29 GMT -5
Small but not relevant update: WOL callbacks are currently scheduled for Thursday so I should hopefully have more info on this then.
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Post by ninjavern on Mar 15, 2016 9:44:16 GMT -5
It should be more designed around Man vs. Course and not Man vs. man.
If you beat your qualifier, final, and all 4 vegas stages then you've won $500k.
Its the burden of the production team to make sure its hard enough so that 20 people dont beat it, but if they do you should have to pay up.
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Post by TCM on Mar 15, 2016 15:07:34 GMT -5
I've always viewed ANW as more game than sport (or rather a game masquerading as sport), and it's clear NBC does as well, otherwise they wouldn't stack vs. The World in their favor or pay out all grand champions instead of the 'fastest' one. The actually competitors view it as sport, as they should considering the amount of time put into their training.
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