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Post by m4tt3r0x on Feb 1, 2016 8:36:30 GMT -5
{My opinions on the tournament}Was really impressed Ryo passed the propellar bar.
Was also glad to see Tomo almost clear Stage 2.
Yusuke was impressive as always.
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Post by Geoffnotjeff on Feb 1, 2016 9:09:55 GMT -5
I may get a lot of hate from some people for this, but I might as well express my thoughts on this contest... {Spoiler}After watching another dismal performance by Team Japan, I think it's about time we stopped inviting them.
Seriously, everyone's getting sick and tired of the Japanese finishing with ZERO points every year, simply because the course is near-impossible for them due to the fact they are less agile than Americans on ANW-style courses.
If they can't get any points, then what's the point in inviting them back every year, huh?
It doesn't make good TV, and it's damaging the image of SASUKE when NBC make the Japanese look like joke competitors.
Either make it USA vs Europe (like the Ryder Cup and Mosconi Cup), or never ever hold the competition again.
Rant over. Hey you are entitled to your opinion and you shouldn't get flack for it. IMO the bigger issues honestly (at least for me) is that you can't have a course that was already tested (and even competed on) for only 1/3 of the teams. Sasuke doesn't let you on the course until the day of the competition. ANW's Vegas Final is the same way. Why should the international one get a pass when only 1/3 of the group already has a feel for it? IMO to combat that they should let EVERYONE test on them (Japan didn't this year for some political reasons) or don't let anyone touch it at all like they do with Vegas Final/Sasuke. IMO they should change the course like they did with the All-Star special where the whole thing was different and competitors were seeing and competing on them for the very first time. That way the playing field is even. As for "not inviting" people because you are upset, I'll just say that I disagree and leave it at that. I think that's emotion speaking. And this coming from a die-hard Japan/Sasuke fan. All I wanted was a fair competition and let the chips fall where they lie and that's what I got. That's the whole point of competition in the first place. Kudos to the winners. This year I don't get to rage about manufactured results. That's a relief! Political reasons? Hrmm, im not sure i agree with that. Team Europe and Japan went to the course to practice the morning that we did stages 2-3-4, and left because it was to hot. Some of the Europe guys told me they got on the course and it was painfully hot in the morning sun and said they bailed. It was VERY hot those days, esp in the sun. Heck it was almost 100 the night usa vs the world filmed! |
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Post by arsenette on Feb 1, 2016 9:23:44 GMT -5
Japan didn't leave because it was too hot.. They were told to leave. I got that from them directly.
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Post by Geoffnotjeff on Feb 1, 2016 10:45:10 GMT -5
If so - they shut it down because of the heat, not anything political. It was Brutally hot, sean told me he did stage 2 till the salmon ladder and it hurt his hands and then they talked with the producers and decided to not test due to the conditions (heat) he said they were there, maybe there was a miscommunication with the language barrier but afaik it was shut down due to heat.
Sucks anyway =/
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Post by arsenette on Feb 1, 2016 10:48:28 GMT -5
If so - they shut it down because of the heat, not anything political. It was Brutally hot, sean told me he did stage 2 till the salmon ladder and it hurt his hands and then they talked with the producers and decided to not test due to the conditions (heat) he said they were there, maybe there was a miscommunication with the language barrier but afaik it was shut down due to heat. Sucks anyway =/ Sadly it wasn't miscommunication. The same problem person from NBC that did the crap last year to them did it again this year. There's more to the story but that's all I'll say here. I only mention it because it happened, however they do not blame that incident or lack of training on the obstacles for their fail. The new guys were too nervous and freaked out. They don't blame the political forces. Btw, watching the show now.. they didn't mention at all that Yuusuke is the current champion of Sasuke? wtf.. It's friggin' January. They had plenty of time to put that in there, especially since a lot of stuff is looped in months later. Hell.. they knew it when Team Japan arrived in Vegas. They had no excuse. |
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Post by OwlRTA on Feb 1, 2016 11:22:57 GMT -5
Btw, watching the show now.. they didn't mention at all that Yuusuke is the current champion of Sasuke? wtf.. It's friggin' January. They had plenty of time to put that in there, especially since a lot of stuff is looped in months later. Hell.. they knew it when Team Japan arrived in Vegas. They had no excuse. Yeah, I was pissed they didn't put that in his fluff piece. I even tweeted in rage about it 
I was a bit more peeved about it in the final heat when it was Yuusuke, the SASUKE champion, vs. Issac, the ANW co-champion, vs Sean, the tiebreaker winner in last year's competition. They couldn't mention that all three guys made to the top of Stage 4 in victory, and that it was champion vs. champion?
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Post by OwlRTA on Feb 1, 2016 11:35:01 GMT -5
{Spoiler}However, I loved it when both Ryo and Yuusuke showed the US how to properly do the Crazy Cliffhanger transition. Joe Moravsky is probably now relieved of embarrassment from his transition in ANW 7 Didn't like it when he changed his method in this competition. |
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Post by arsenette on Feb 1, 2016 11:50:10 GMT -5
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Post by OwlRTA on Feb 1, 2016 12:47:49 GMT -5
So I'm guessing this tweet from Moravsky didn't make a huge difference |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2016 13:55:23 GMT -5
I may get a lot of hate from some people for this, but I might as well express my thoughts on this contest... After watching another dismal performance by Team Japan, I think it's about time we stopped inviting them.
Seriously, everyone's getting sick and tired of the Japanese finishing with ZERO points every year, simply because the course is near-impossible for them due to the fact they are less agile than Americans on ANW-style courses.
If they can't get any points, then what's the point in inviting them back every year, huh?
It doesn't make good TV, and it's damaging the image of SASUKE when NBC make the Japanese look like joke competitors.
Either make it USA vs Europe (like the Ryder Cup and Mosconi Cup), or never ever hold the competition again.
Rant over. {Spoiler}Well, look at it this way. America loves seeing America win, so as far as their concerned it is good TV. I agree with you on some level, but the way I see it, to NOT invite them is kind of insulting. It would eliminate what little of SASUKE we get to see in America. I am of course talking about the times ANW tries to fuse itself with SASUKE and uses pirated copies of the tournaments they boycotted (MUST CONTROL RAGE). Anyway, the competitors should at the very least have the option of coming over and not be barred from competing. Granted it is kind of sad to see Japan get slammed on a course they aren't mentally prepped for, disallowing them to compete would be no different from giving them the finger. Though it does kind of leave a sour taste to those who want to see Japan win and know about SASUKE Rising.
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Post by thatoneuser on Feb 1, 2016 16:46:36 GMT -5
Regarding Yusuke's kanzenseiha not being mentioned, bear in mind that this was filmed before Yusuke's kanzenseiha was aired, so he was not exactly at liberty to discuss it. Editing it back in would have required Matt to go back into the studio to re-dub the episode and would have felt very last-minute. For all we know they might have tried to get Matt back into the studio and he wasn't available to. I would expect them to mention it next year.
EDIT: I would imagine the All-Star competition would be used as a "pre-show" for next season if it is ever used at all.
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Post by OwlRTA on Feb 1, 2016 18:01:41 GMT -5
Regarding Yusuke's kanzenseiha not being mentioned, bear in mind that this was filmed before Yusuke's kanzenseiha was aired, so he was not exactly at liberty to discuss it. Editing it back in would have required Matt to go back into the studio to re-dub the episode and would have felt very last-minute. For all we know they might have tried to get Matt back into the studio and he wasn't available to. I would expect them to mention it next year. EDIT: I would imagine the All-Star competition would be used as a "pre-show" for next season if it is ever used at all. I think I saw Stage 2 footage from Ninja Warrior UK in the special, and I've heard that it didn't air by the time ANW was filmed. They also showed Sasuke 31 footage as well. Also, they had months to dub that fact in after Sasuke aired. |
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Post by thatoneuser on Feb 1, 2016 20:57:17 GMT -5
Regarding Yusuke's kanzenseiha not being mentioned, bear in mind that this was filmed before Yusuke's kanzenseiha was aired, so he was not exactly at liberty to discuss it. Editing it back in would have required Matt to go back into the studio to re-dub the episode and would have felt very last-minute. For all we know they might have tried to get Matt back into the studio and he wasn't available to. I would expect them to mention it next year. EDIT: I would imagine the All-Star competition would be used as a "pre-show" for next season if it is ever used at all. I think I saw Stage 2 footage from Ninja Warrior UK in the special, and I've heard that it didn't air by the time ANW was filmed. They also showed Sasuke 31 footage as well. Also, they had months to dub that fact in after Sasuke aired. They used some SASUKE 31 footage, yes, but that was available to them in editing. Anyone mentioning Yusuke's kanzenseiha was not. Maybe we could chalk this one up to laziness but it's not like there's some gag order on it like people seem to be insinuating.* *I'm not referring to anyone specifically so please don't get mad at me |
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Post by RiderLeangle on Feb 1, 2016 21:58:13 GMT -5
\ Anyone mentioning Yusuke's kanzenseiha was not. Maybe we could chalk this one up to laziness but it's not like there's some gag order on it like people seem to be insinuating. To be fair the Sasuke 31 competitors (I.E. all of Team Japan) were still under Sasuke NDA so they couldn't mention it in their interviews, I don't understand why it wasn't referenced in the post production however, at the very least they could have included a shot of Morimoto hitting the Final Stage button during his profiles if nothing else |
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Post by brockriebe6 on Feb 1, 2016 22:11:31 GMT -5
Did anyone else notice Drew wearing Hioki's work shirt in all his interviews. Also tons of americans were rocking Sasuke gear so that was pretty cool too.
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Post by Achiereot on Feb 2, 2016 3:48:03 GMT -5
Sean McColl is a beast. Best natural Ninja Warrior ever.
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Post by Achiereot on Feb 2, 2016 4:10:16 GMT -5
There hasn't been any references of financial prizes so far. If you win do you just get the honour and bragging rights or do you get a financial prize too? I think if they added a financial prize to these ANW specials the competitors would maybe take the competition more seriously hence they would care more about winning and we would see less embarassing mistakes by the competitors like falling on the jumping spider or failing the salmon ladder. |
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Post by arsenette on Feb 2, 2016 6:50:47 GMT -5
I think I saw Stage 2 footage from Ninja Warrior UK in the special, and I've heard that it didn't air by the time ANW was filmed. They also showed Sasuke 31 footage as well. Also, they had months to dub that fact in after Sasuke aired. They used some SASUKE 31 footage, yes, but that was available to them in editing. Anyone mentioning Yusuke's kanzenseiha was not. Maybe we could chalk this one up to laziness but it's not like there's some gag order on it like people seem to be insinuating.* *I'm not referring to anyone specifically so please don't get mad at me Nah I'm not mad at you but you are missing key information.. precedent. NBC loops all of their footage and in the past that was a big deal in ALL of these specials whether they aired in September or January. You can even tell the quality of voice when it's looped and there was plenty on there. I agree with certain people I won't name that they simply won't admit to it since it will open up a can of worms. If they showed he won, then everyone instinctively will go "wait.. I want to see that!". That's not anything NBC wants to deal with. They also didn't want to share the Kanzenseiha/Total Victory spotlight. There was no gag order.. trust me I asked. Hell, everyone on set kept calling Yuusuke "Hey Champion!" which of course made him beam with delight. We both knew they wouldn't show the Final Stage Ian Dory vs. Morimoto thing but I was extremely surprised they didn't show the Kanzenseiha. Especially since they went out of their way to say (previously) that Morimoto is the first man ever to clear the legit Crazy Cliffhanger in competition. As for Fathead's assertions that money would have helped them not suck.. you are assuming they didn't take the competition seriously. Pride is one heck of an incentive. No one wants to be embarrassed on international television. I don't ever blame athletes for their results (positive or negative). Nerves play a huge part in a show this big. That is the reason why when someone makes it look easy and dominate they instinctively burst out in celebration because they conquered themselves. |
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Post by rithwikpalivela on Feb 2, 2016 6:55:15 GMT -5
When I saw Geoff crying because he couldn't compete, I almost started crying. Geoff's my favorite ANW competitor and I was heartbroken (and he was way more) to not see him compete. However, I think Moravsky did an amazing job in his place, coming right off the stands and completing stage 2 in record time. Kudos to the American team!
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Post by Achiereot on Feb 2, 2016 7:25:20 GMT -5
They used some SASUKE 31 footage, yes, but that was available to them in editing. Anyone mentioning Yusuke's kanzenseiha was not. Maybe we could chalk this one up to laziness but it's not like there's some gag order on it like people seem to be insinuating.* *I'm not referring to anyone specifically so please don't get mad at me Nah I'm not mad at you but you are missing key information.. precedent. NBC loops all of their footage and in the past that was a big deal in ALL of these specials whether they aired in September or January. You can even tell the quality of voice when it's looped and there was plenty on there. I agree with certain people I won't name that they simply won't admit to it since it will open up a can of worms. If they showed he won, then everyone instinctively will go "wait.. I want to see that!". That's not anything NBC wants to deal with. They also didn't want to share the Kanzenseiha/Total Victory spotlight. There was no gag order.. trust me I asked. Hell, everyone on set kept calling Yuusuke "Hey Champion!" which of course made him beam with delight. We both knew they wouldn't show the Final Stage Ian Dory vs. Morimoto thing but I was extremely surprised they didn't show the Kanzenseiha. Especially since they went out of their way to say (previously) that Morimoto is the first man ever to clear the legit Crazy Cliffhanger in competition. As for Fathead's assertions that money would have helped them not suck.. you are assuming they didn't take the competition seriously. Pride is one heck of an incentive. No one wants to be embarrassed on international television. I don't ever blame athletes for their results (positive or negative). Nerves play a huge part in a show this big. That is the reason why when someone makes it look easy and dominate they instinctively burst out in celebration because they conquered themselves. Yes but is pride enough? It seems like it's more about having fun than just being pride so it would never make as much sense to win or be as much serious if each competitor of a winning team didn't get awarded. I can't see why it would be embarassing to make a mistake on what they call the toughest obstacle course in the world. It looked like many of them just thought "what the heck I won't get awarded anyway so a mistake won't matter" therefore we see many of the competitors making mistakes on some very basic obstacles. |
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