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Post by thectd400 on Aug 8, 2014 19:14:09 GMT -5
I know a lot of people hate ANW. So imagine you have the power to change one or two things about anything relating to ANW, such as the course or the way it is run. However, your change must keep the general uniformed NBC viewing audience engaged and the ratings stable. What is it?
For me, I would spend more time on the actual Vegas finals course, and spend less time on the qualifiers. In the end, people want to see the actual competition, not the qualifier courses. Spend like 4 or 5 weeks on qualifiers instead of 10. Get to the action in Vegas faster, that is what matters
It's not the best option, and it's just my opinion. I want ANW to succeed, but I don't want to spend every episode yelling at my TV about another random thing that NBC does to piss me off. So what are you changing?
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Post by sasukeandanwfan1115 on Aug 9, 2014 10:32:44 GMT -5
I think I might make the city qualifiers and finals into one thing and/or make it to have 100 athletes take on the Vegas Course instead of just 85 or something like that.
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Post by thebobmaster on Aug 9, 2014 11:56:18 GMT -5
One thing I would do is to test the obstacles more thoroughly. There hasn't been a season without one or more obstacle malfunctions. Last year, it was either the Floating Boards or the UCH (can't remember which, but part of the obstacle fell off during a contestant's run). This year, it was the Rumbling Dice (and possibly some others).
They have testers running it, but not in time to actually do anything if the obstacle is screwed up.
Also, 3 possibilities for the cargo net jumping obstacles: 1. Let them go over the net. 2. Raise the net higher. 3. Take out the rule that says if anything you are wearing touches the water, you're out.
Why do I say this? Because it's bull that, say, Idoko Abuh has to be concerned about failing the climb not through lack of skill, not because of a screw up, but just because his hair is too long. Or that one guy who took off his shirt because he was concerned it was too loose and might drag in the water. That's just ridiculous.
Not having a 5 year old banging on a keyboard for deciding who does and doesn't get digested/cut would also help.
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Post by KinnikuBanzukeÜberAlles on Aug 9, 2014 17:45:48 GMT -5
1) Shorten the time limits (for Vegas if ANW6 has ANW5's time limits).
2) Try to create more obstacles that are difficult to build at home.
3) Make the Wall Lifting walls much heavier. (For all of the bragging that ANW does about supersizing obstacles, I don't know why they haven't supersized this one. I'd consider bumping every wall up by 40-50 pounds.)
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Post by skythenewark on Aug 10, 2014 2:29:54 GMT -5
1:Add something that's Sasuke Related. (Crazy Cliffhanger HELLO!)
2:Don't make the obstacles more harder. That's gonna screw people up. I can barely tell that Venice, Dallas, & St. Louis were going off empty handed, While Miami & Denver, Are screwed with Lesser ropes
3:Don't make up "never before seen" Obstacles. It was suppose to be fun. Not to be dang challenging.
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Post by tkdchamp2021 on Aug 10, 2014 8:15:00 GMT -5
Get rid of Jenn Brown.
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Post by SasukeForever on Aug 10, 2014 11:57:17 GMT -5
Get rid of Akbar.
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Post by Amber on Aug 10, 2014 12:00:53 GMT -5
To be honest, as boring as most say he was, they need to get Blair Herter to announce in at least one last episode. That's what I'd like to see.
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Post by acw on Aug 10, 2014 14:39:44 GMT -5
I get the strange feeling that I'm at an advantage never having seen Sasuke, so I don't know how "bad" AMW is.
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Post by thectd400 on Aug 10, 2014 17:25:32 GMT -5
I get the strange feeling that I'm at an advantage never having seen Sasuke, so I don't know how "bad" AMW is. Yeah I definitely know what you mean. My first encounter with sasuke or ANW was ANW 4. I thought it was really cool until I started researching more and learning about the Japanese competitors. Now, I share everyone's frustrations.
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Post by acw on Aug 11, 2014 12:48:09 GMT -5
A small thing I'd do, money wise (note: Except for the $5k, these are NOT cumulative): *All those who make it to the national finals (non-wildcards) get $1,000 *Anyone (including wildcards) who make it to stage 2 get $2,000 *Stage 3 $3,000 *Stage 4 $4,000 *The contestant who makes it the farthest gets an addition $5k *Note: The last 2 do not apply if someone conquers Midoriyama (which I could see being $1 million)
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Post by TCM on Aug 11, 2014 13:33:52 GMT -5
A small thing I'd do, money wise (note: Except for the $5k, these are NOT cumulative): *All those who make it to the national finals (non-wildcards) get $1,000 *Anyone (including wildcards) who make it to stage 2 get $2,000 *Stage 3 $3,000 *Stage 4 $4,000 *The contestant who makes it the farthest gets an addition $5k *Note: The last 2 do not apply if someone conquers Midoriyama (which I could see being $1 million) Aside from the regional bonuses (did they even do that this year?), there should no prizes except conquering Midoriyama. Sasuke has never been about a monetary prize, and it's unfortunate that Arnold felt he had to quit his job to "win $500,000." It's pretty ludicrous it's that much to begin with. I agree with a few points here in the thread that have already been said but here are mine: - One flaw of ANW is that it spends so much time on what's essentially the trials to Midoriyama. I'd argue it's the biggest flaw. While it makes sense to differentiate the course so that people don't have unfair advantages, needing so many obstacles means some ideas stick less than others. When an obstacle has a flaw, the program then becomes boring because most people are failing there. - As a supplement to the previous one, do not change the difficulty of the course from regional to city finals (such as making gaps larger). All it does is spend 30 extra seconds on an obstacle that people should be flying past. The point of finals is the obstacles after the Warped Wall, not the ones before it. I will never approve of making something harder for the sake of being more difficult. That's fake difficulty. I also agree with letting people go over the net again and making sure than failure means a body part touches the water, not loose clothing or hair. I also don't like the "no hands" rules on obstacles. If a competitor wants to do that let them, their consequence is that if they take too long and don't finish, then their chances of being "furthest the fastest" go down. It's hypocritical to add a rule that would help make the course completion faster, yet push a net backwards that causes people to be forced to take their time. - The size of the obstacles also make no sense sometimes. It annoys me that we can cut away from someone doing an obstacle and when we come back to them, they're maybe halfway done with it. A trials course should be speed based. Part of that is competitor pacing and part of that is obstacle size. This is more a qualifying issue than national finals issue, although some obstacles are also large for no reason in the finals as well. - Digesting clears happens, but cutting clears to show more failures is disrespectful to the people who clear. Everyone doesn't need a competitor profile. - Fix the damn Jumping Spider (Sasuke 20 was the best version, IMO). Is it hard to have a decent run-up and the trampoline be on the same level? - I still think the Spin Bridge should be solid and not be covered with that weird felt (just paint the balls red). It also suffers from gigantism. - Seeing the Lumberjack Climb would be cool. - Still think the Metal Spin could be improved (obviously I don't know how it is in this season yet)
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Post by Philip on Aug 11, 2014 13:59:30 GMT -5
ANW's staff consists of totally incompetent buffoons who know nothing about Sasuke, so I doubt they will listen.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Aug 11, 2014 14:26:23 GMT -5
A small thing I'd do, money wise (note: Except for the $5k, these are NOT cumulative): *All those who make it to the national finals (non-wildcards) get $1,000 *Anyone (including wildcards) who make it to stage 2 get $2,000 *Stage 3 $3,000 *Stage 4 $4,000 *The contestant who makes it the farthest gets an addition $5k *Note: The last 2 do not apply if someone conquers Midoriyama (which I could see being $1 million) Aside from the regional bonuses (did they even do that this year?), there should no prizes except conquering Midoriyama. Sasuke has never been about a monetary prize, and it's unfortunate that Arnold felt he had to quit his job to "win $500,000." It's pretty ludicrous it's that much to begin with. Yes they did do the fastest time prize this year, Qualifying best time was $2500 and city finals best time was $5000
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Post by blah123 on Aug 11, 2014 14:59:52 GMT -5
1) Get rid of the fake, dubbed-in crowd cheering, ugh that drives me insane 2) Less fluff backstories, more runs. 3) Less focus on qualifiers, more focus on Vegas. Maybe Stage 1 = 4 episodes, Stage 2 & beyond = 2 or 3 episodes. 4) Have Matt Iseman + someone who actually knows ANW/Sasuke -- they call them "Analysts" in other sports. That would be cool. Someone like Evan Dollard or Brian Orosco or something would be sweet.
I'm sure there are a million other things I'd change, but that's all I can think of for now.
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Post by SuperTiger on Aug 11, 2014 16:38:20 GMT -5
I agree that the Qualifiers take up too much time in regards to the program. Unfortunately ANW and Sasuke differ in the sense ANW is a program that spans an entire television season, while Sasuke is a three hour special. I haven't watched the past two ANW seasons in their entirety, but from my understanding they have shown all of the Vegas runs and results. Albeit I'm sure some people get digested, but even if NBC were to show all of the Vegas runs in their entirety, it most likely fills up one extra episode. In order for NBC to meet their 12-15 episode per season quota, they have to fill up a majority of those episodes with the qualifiers.
As for what I'd like to see change, I'd love to see a complete overhaul on the qualifying courses and eliminate city finals all together. Make the city finals courses the actual qualifying courses, and tone them down to the point a fair amount of people can clear them, as well as introduce a speed element as it pertains to clearing the finals course. It'd be nice if we could see 20-30 people clear the course and the top 20 times or so go on the Vegas. If there's five cities, that leaves two episodes per city to cover a wide array of competitors, and leaves three-five episodes for Vegas. I think that wouldn't be bad at all.
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Post by dlee on Aug 11, 2014 17:38:58 GMT -5
As for what I'd like to see change, I'd love to see a complete overhaul on the qualifying courses and eliminate city finals all together. Make the city finals courses the actual qualifying courses, and tone them down to the point a fair amount of people can clear them, as well as introduce a speed element as it pertains to clearing the finals course. It'd be nice if we could see 20-30 people clear the course and the top 20 times or so go on the Vegas. If there's five cities, that leaves two episodes per city to cover a wide array of competitors, and leaves three-five episodes for Vegas. I think that wouldn't be bad at all. The reason they made no time limit during qualifiers is so something like this wouldn't happen. A person completing the entire course and then not moving onto Vegas seems a little unfair to me. Plus the fact that only 31 people finished the Finals course in all 5 cities. The course would have to be modified to be made easy as. The only upside is more people would run the course. But then the viewer would have to watch a double episode of the same 6 obstacles. Not keen
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Post by SuperTiger on Aug 11, 2014 20:15:42 GMT -5
As for what I'd like to see change, I'd love to see a complete overhaul on the qualifying courses and eliminate city finals all together. Make the city finals courses the actual qualifying courses, and tone them down to the point a fair amount of people can clear them, as well as introduce a speed element as it pertains to clearing the finals course. It'd be nice if we could see 20-30 people clear the course and the top 20 times or so go on the Vegas. If there's five cities, that leaves two episodes per city to cover a wide array of competitors, and leaves three-five episodes for Vegas. I think that wouldn't be bad at all. The reason they made no time limit during qualifiers is so something like this wouldn't happen. A person completing the entire course and then not moving onto Vegas seems a little unfair to me. Plus the fact that only 31 people finished the Finals course in all 5 cities. The course would have to be modified to be made easy as. The only upside is more people would run the course. But then the viewer would have to watch a double episode of the same 6 obstacles. Not keen I'm not following why you think there would only be six obstacles? In my change I said I'd love to see the city finals courses be the qualifying courses. The reason I place emphasis on a speed element is because there is a speed element in Vegas. If you take 15 minutes to complete a finals course, it's impressive to beat all those obstacles, but could you really beat the first stage if you don't have the speed to do so? Probably not.
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Post by dlee on Aug 11, 2014 21:16:56 GMT -5
Thats my bad I got the details wrong. Principal is still the same. A double episode of the same obstacles when everyone else on this thread is saying that the Prelims drag on too long anyway just makes it even more of a yawn. Although doing it your way and making speed an actual factor, im so down for. But nobody will take 15 minutes if speed is a factor. Your basing that on competitions where speed didn't matter. There will be hundreds of more failures just due to rushing. If they adopted your idea tho the chances of Total Victory and excitement would double. Imagine the calibre of competitors when you have to complete the Finals course with a good speed. Would be awesome for talent rising to the top.
EDIT: BUT imagine all the FF'ed failures (probably clears as well, NBC) trying to get 20-30 people to finish quickly.
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Post by acw on Aug 12, 2014 5:17:10 GMT -5
I don't like the idea of a time limit for the city rounds (hell, I'm not terribly keen on the idea of a time limit AT ALL).
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