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Post by jfeathe on Aug 23, 2011 21:59:55 GMT -5
Or you could realize that SASUKE 26 was only two hours and thirty minutes as opposed to three hours (and beyond) for SASUKEs 17 to 25. There was no way they were going to satisfy anyone who had been conditioned to watching the (Japanese) show in the last five years. Two hours to show ten competitors go three stages versus two and a half or even three to show 70 or so (because we never see the full 100) go three and beyond. "Or you could realize..." That was a very offhand remark. There's no need to be condescending towards me when I made no attack against you. I clearly stated that it was impossible to show the same amount of detail in the Japanese broadcast as in ANW. I also stated that ALL groups of competitors were unfairly cut. |
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Post by arsenette on Aug 23, 2011 22:12:30 GMT -5
TBS edits however the hell they want. There has been on rhyme or reason as to why they do it and it's different every single time they do it. Even in 24 which they had friggin' 5 1/2 hours they cut things that made no sense to us. To think they are unfairly cutting people is kinda pointless since they offend everyone and not just one particular group. I see your point in how ANW gives you the ability to concentrate on 10 people and know them better.. but that doesn't excuse that they should have mentioned that they were not the only ones in the broadcast. To unfairly point the finger at TBS for cutting any content because of time constraints but raising Comcast in a pedestal who sacrificed 90 competitors is not exactly winning an argument. I'd take TBS hatchet job where they bother showing everyone in a 100 man competition than to concentrate on 10 for the same amount of time and make it look like they were the only ones there.
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Post by Ghan on Aug 23, 2011 23:47:21 GMT -5
TBS edits however the hell they want. There has been on rhyme or reason as to why they do it and it's different every single time they do it. Even in 24 which they had friggin' 5 1/2 hours they cut things that made no sense to us. To think they are unfairly cutting people is kinda pointless since they offend everyone and not just one particular group. I see your point in how ANW gives you the ability to concentrate on 10 people and know them better.. but that doesn't excuse that they should have mentioned that they were not the only ones in the broadcast. To unfairly point the finger at TBS for cutting any content because of time constraints but raising Comcast in a pedestal who sacrificed 90 competitors is not exactly winning an argument. I'd take TBS hatchet job where they bother showing everyone in a 100 man competition than to concentrate on 10 for the same amount of time and make it look like they were the only ones there. lol |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2011 23:48:47 GMT -5
They're going to skip/digest all Americans except for David.
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Post by Max Bedroom on Aug 24, 2011 0:02:28 GMT -5
Strat, why was Brian Orosco there? As an alternate? Was he invited just for fun? Or was that just some crazy lookalike we saw
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Post by Apexe on Aug 24, 2011 0:08:17 GMT -5
Or maybe he was the Ebay winner
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Just kidding.
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Post by sentinel on Aug 24, 2011 0:54:23 GMT -5
Strat, how did the Sasuke UCH compare to David's? Was Sasuke's harder, or were you just completely exhausted?
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Post by Homeslice on Aug 24, 2011 7:55:36 GMT -5
Americans like David Campbell and Paul Darnell (hopefully) will be shown in full while many of the others who failed the second stage will be cut. ...when was Paul Darnell there? I'd like to see that. Paul Kasemir made it, last we checked. But yeah, this might be what TBS does...we don't know. But of course, what they do won't be like what G4 does - PRETEND THE AMERICANS DON'T EVEN EXIST. I share the same beef with Arsenette. Somewhere some moron who watched G4's version of the last tournament was probably thinking, "only 2 people made it to Stage 3, wtf?!". I'm sure of it. |
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Post by jfeathe on Aug 24, 2011 9:08:36 GMT -5
TBS edits however the hell they want. There has been on rhyme or reason as to why they do it and it's different every single time they do it. Even in 24 which they had friggin' 5 1/2 hours they cut things that made no sense to us. To think they are unfairly cutting people is kinda pointless since they offend everyone and not just one particular group. I see your point in how ANW gives you the ability to concentrate on 10 people and know them better.. but that doesn't excuse that they should have mentioned that they were not the only ones in the broadcast. To unfairly point the finger at TBS for cutting any content because of time constraints but raising Comcast in a pedestal who sacrificed 90 competitors is not exactly winning an argument. I'd take TBS hatchet job where they bother showing everyone in a 100 man competition than to concentrate on 10 for the same amount of time and make it look like they were the only ones there. Arsenette, there really is no argument to win. I like discussing this with everyone, but I don't want people think I'm trying to confront or challenge them. I was sharing my pure opinion. I truly understand where you are coming from and I respect your opinion. |
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Post by andrea116 on Aug 24, 2011 18:37:00 GMT -5
Lol, I hit that wooden landing spot HARD when I rolled off the RE. Should have just jumped lol. Not as smooth as Mr. 44 seconds but glad I was able to stumble through the first stage! The UCH was extremely difficult. I trained my grip but clearly not to the level of where it needs to be. I knew cardio was an issue from ANW 1 and 2 hence the increase with the jope rope work and parkour stuff. I was still able to maintain my strength needed for the remainder of stage 3 and 4 but just didn't focus on the UCH enough. I was half hoping since no one had passed it yet they may have changed it but that was my own fault for wishful thinking and lack of prep! Ah well lesson learned the hard way! Hope everyone enjoyed the show at least! Strat you're my hero!! |
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Post by penguincatfish on Aug 24, 2011 20:33:33 GMT -5
In case any of you haven't checked already... ANW3 Finals... super secret place... yeah.
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Post by Straticus on Aug 24, 2011 23:08:00 GMT -5
I got farther on Sasuke's UCH than David's of course last time I tried Davids was right before Venice and I knew I needed to get better at it. So over a month I trained A LOT of different things, mostly cardio with the jump rope but clearly not enough grip stuff. Ledges at the top were the same felt like, the two angled pieces were easier than David's.
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Post by UnrealCanine on Aug 25, 2011 7:13:34 GMT -5
How thick were the ledges. I can't see them being the 3cm we're use to
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Post by Straticus on Aug 25, 2011 9:08:07 GMT -5
David could probably tell you better than I. The boot camp one was spot on UNTIL the transfer up to the 4th ledge which gave you pretty much your whole hand to hang from. UCH stayed the same thickness till the 5th little piece.
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Post by Gigarator on Aug 25, 2011 18:18:27 GMT -5
Judging by the performance of the Americans this years tournament is going to have a ton of people getting through the first stage, that time limit is extremely lenient. I like the first stage, the landing platform on the Halfpipe Attack seems like the only weak spot, looks very hard to land on properly. The Spinning Bridge seems easier than I expected it to be as well. Surprised by how many people the Metal Swing took out, I'm curious to see how the rest of the competitors do on that obstacle too this time. Third stage looks interesting, I thought the Flying Bar would also be more difficult than it turned out to be. The most annoying thing about the third stage is that some of the camera angles during the first two obstacles very clearly showed some of the non-american's who had got through to the third stage. As for the show itself... I really don't like the presentation. The commentators need to pick up a Thesaurus for ANW4 because there's only so many times they can say "he NAILED it!" before it begins to grate and they constantly say each others names after everything they say, irritating! I'd much rather it was a one man commentary setup. The swooshy sound effects and generic music along with camera effects aren't my style either, I much prefer the Japanese presentation, feels so much more relaxed and natural. I cringe when I hear that the prize for Kanzenseiha is to star in an advertising campaign for a footwear brand. That's so "corporate America." But then again, maybe I'm just a cynical Brit.  |
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Post by quasikoz on Aug 26, 2011 19:59:49 GMT -5
I figured I weigh in to, even though Arsenette pretty much knows where I stand from out Twitter conversation.
As far as taking steps to get more people interested in Sasuke by turning it into American Ninja Warrior, I think plenty of steps were taken in the right direction. Everything from the play-by-play to the grand prize to the quality of production, especially in the storytelling of our athletes, is improving. I know were all Sasuke fans and the Americans cutting more and more into the game has its pros and cons, but as someone who wants to see Sasuke thrive in America I loved watching ANW3.
I would love to see Bootcamp completely revamped. I would love to see ANW as a show explain why this obstacle course is so important to the Americans who compete on it. I would have loved if they had talked up just how difficult Stage 3 really is historically. But as long as TBS loves what G4 is doing with Sasuke (both with Ninja Warrior AND American Ninja Warrior) then opinions don't matter. But I'm happy with the progress made and I can't wait to see what's in store for ANW4.
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Post by catmanboogie on Aug 26, 2011 20:11:33 GMT -5
just finished watching the anw3 finals. not been a fan and still find the commentators and presenters irritating, however, i must admit i quite liked this years anw. cheers for those who recommended it wouldn't ruin my sasuke viewing when aired. either g4 edited it very well so as not to give away much or whomever put the copy i got up did a swell job! much obliged for all the efforts folks
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Post by naganosupreeeme on Aug 26, 2011 22:58:50 GMT -5
I disagree with complaining about ignoring japanese competitiors. Did not want our announcers butchering the history and giving away spoilers. I love watching the show sans spoilers it's one of my favorite events of every year. Hated our announcers they stunk and had no passion but that was to be expected.
I was very happy they just chose to flat ignore everyone else b/c it means zero spoilers.
Besides them talking about the other competitors and whatnot would be like if football annoucers on CBS talked up a 4 o clockgame on fox when CBS has its own game at 4. NBC won't air it so they have no reason to build anticipation for it and G4 AND M9 likely I'd think were pretty adamant about avoiding spoilers so best of both worlds just don't talk about anything besides the americans. Now dying for Sasuke.
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Post by dudesky1000 on Aug 27, 2011 0:20:21 GMT -5
I'd just like to point out that I think using the American commentators was not a decision they wanted to go with- in fact I think it had a lot to do with hiding the fact that there were the other 90 competitors, and to directly translate the REAL commentator's subtitles would have surely given away the results of the several Japanese competitors who went before them (on David Campbell's runs in particular who had the number 98) Who's to say that even if they changed the subtitles to hide particular results... we'd still be able to hear or translate ourselves when Ogasawara shouts something along the lines of "Will David follow the footsteps of Hashimoto Kouji?!" as David is about to clear the UCH.
The reason why it worked so well with ANW2, and probably the reason why they went with the Japanese commentators for that was because for the most part the Americans (with the lone exception of Brian) were first to run/clear. In fact, if all 4 Americans weren't first in the Third Stage in 26, we probably would've heard something about Li or Okuyama in the background, meaning they had already run/failed.
So I'm actually really thankful they didn't go with the Japanese commentators for once because this time the Americans WEREN'T always first (assuming this bc we know certain Americans' numbers), and for a show that still has more footing in Japan than it does in the US that shows all 100 together, we probably would've heard a lot that we DIDN'T want to hear because of the extreme spoilers.
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Post by roy on Aug 27, 2011 0:29:27 GMT -5
Just finished watching it.
David man, he had that... Can't wait for the whole thing to air too. But damn, I was sure he had it on that last ledge.
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