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Post by mikessssssss on Jan 2, 2011 15:37:40 GMT -5
I understand that this is Sasuke and getting past the first stage is always an achievement in itself, but - both to appease fans and production companies - it should be made easier. There should be a decrease in difficulty coupled with a decrease in time. If the first stage was relatively, relative to other Sasuke tournaments, easy but with a stricter time then those who aren't physically fit enough, or quick enough, would struggle yet our favourites - the best athletes and the fans favourites - would have a better chance of getting through thereby ensuring we would be given a more exciting and intense tournament. To counter an influx of competitors in the second stage, which isn't such a bad thing, it could be made harder in order to filter out those who aren't quite good enough but who have managed to pass stage one. Plus it's due a lick of paint. Nagano and Yuuji, maybe even those Exile fellows, getting past stage one would - at the very least - unquestionably help with viewing figures and that would, in turn, help with all those commercial aspects. We might also see a more varied approach to the third stage; it is still a bit of an enigma. Feel free to pick holes in this paper thin theory; I'm just slightly underwhelmed.  |
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Post by arsenette on Jan 2, 2011 15:46:39 GMT -5
I don't expect the Rolling Escargo to be back IMO. Given the amount of problems they had with it I would think they will replace it again just like they did with 4 of the obstacles from 25.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2011 16:03:21 GMT -5
I don't expect the Rolling Escargo to be back IMO. Given the amount of problems they had with it I would think they will replace it again just like they did with 4 of the obstacles from 25. I thought it was there best new obstacle. I really love it, and hope they figure out what's up with it. And I agree mikesssss, the first stage should be how you explain it. It should be faster, easier, but faster. More people on to an even harder stage 2 is a good idea. |
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Post by SRW on Jan 2, 2011 16:19:13 GMT -5
The ecargot is awesome leave it alone!
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Post by mikessssssss on Jan 2, 2011 16:20:13 GMT -5
It's a great obstacle but not for stage one. The second i saw it i thoguht it looked really tricky and knew it would take alot of people out. Of course, that's what its supposed to do, heh.
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Post by obakemono on Jan 2, 2011 16:24:56 GMT -5
I disagree. I don't think the first stage is that hard compared to the skill level of the field. Even with very poor performances from a lot of able competitors, 10 people still passed.
You might say, those poor performances were caused by the difficulty of the course. Maybe that's true, but I don't think it's the main factor. These are very talented competitors that should be able to improvise their way past something like the Escargot, and should certainly be able to do obstacles they've done before.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2011 16:34:31 GMT -5
I disagree. I don't think the first stage is that hard compared to the skill level of the field. Even with very poor performances from a lot of able competitors, 10 people still passed. You might say, those poor performances were caused by the difficulty of the course. Maybe that's true, but I don't think it's the main factor. These are very talented competitors that should be able to improvise their way past something like the Escargot, and should certainly be able to do obstacles they've done before. I agree. Everyone looked sloppy this time around. It could've very well been the new obstacles that tripped them up, or the pressure that the Japanese had to tie or beat the American's. |
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Post by jfeathe on Jan 2, 2011 16:40:05 GMT -5
I disagree. I don't think the first stage is that hard compared to the skill level of the field. Even with very poor performances from a lot of able competitors, 10 people still passed. You might say, those poor performances were caused by the difficulty of the course. Maybe that's true, but I don't think it's the main factor. These are very talented competitors that should be able to improvise their way past something like the Escargot, and should certainly be able to do obstacles they've done before. I agree. Everyone looked sloppy this time around. It could've very well been the new obstacles that tripped them up, or the pressure that the Japanese had to tie or beat the American's. Sasuke 25 only had 11 clears and everyone complained that it was too easy. I think what's throwing everybody off is the negitive spin of the broadcast. They made Stage 2 look like a debacle and an impressive 6 still cleared. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2011 16:41:50 GMT -5
I agree. Everyone looked sloppy this time around. It could've very well been the new obstacles that tripped them up, or the pressure that the Japanese had to tie or beat the American's. Sasuke 25 only had 11 clears and everyone complained that it was too easy. I think what's throwing everybody off is the negitive spin of the broadcast. They made Stage 2 look like a debacle and an impressive 6 still cleared. I'm talking exclusively about the Japanese competitors. |
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Post by arsenette on Jan 2, 2011 16:46:46 GMT -5
Personally I wouldn't want this to turn into a ZOMG Americans suck thread. I am happy they are there.. not happy with how G4 has altered things in general. Personally though the course should be even that gives a lot of competitors a fair shake at it. I know many disagree with that but the whole point of this tourney was "normal" people.. not people who train a lot for it. I'm not knocking the ones that do.. I mean in general I like the fact that in a given day a normal guy with a 9-5 job, 3 kids and (a hot bod LOL) can beat the course. I'm fearing the course is getting a wee bit too specialized (as a whole.. not just the first stage). If the Japanese audience feels the same way too (so far I'm hearing "boring" from searches right now) then it doesn't bode well. We'll have to see how this one was received in a couple days when the ratings come out.
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Post by obakemono on Jan 2, 2011 16:51:41 GMT -5
I don't know if it's the selection process or just bad luck or what, but the non-established Japanese competitors just aren't performing well enough to keep the show balanced. Apart from the Americans, no one new has completed the first stage since 24.
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Post by UnrealCanine on Jan 2, 2011 16:53:33 GMT -5
If not easier then shorter
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Post by cole77000 on Jan 2, 2011 17:16:23 GMT -5
Personally I wouldn't want this to turn into a ZOMG Americans suck thread. I am happy they are there.. not happy with how G4 has altered things in general. Personally though the course should be even that gives a lot of competitors a fair shake at it. I know many disagree with that but the whole point of this tourney was "normal" people.. not people who train a lot for it. I'm not knocking the ones that do.. I mean in general I like the fact that in a given day a normal guy with a 9-5 job, 3 kids and (a hot bod LOL) can beat the course. I'm fearing the course is getting a wee bit too specialized (as a whole.. not just the first stage). If the Japanese audience feels the same way too (so far I'm hearing "boring" from searches right now) then it doesn't bode well. We'll have to see how this one was received in a couple days when the ratings come out. I think most of the "boring" parts of 26 were mainly from the bad editing. If they had just shown the American (and a few others') runs in full, I think the broadcast may have been much better to watch. |
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Post by quasikoz on Jan 2, 2011 17:18:43 GMT -5
10 people cleared Stage 1. How much more easier should it get???
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2011 17:20:01 GMT -5
Personally I wouldn't want this to turn into a ZOMG Americans suck thread. I am happy they are there.. not happy with how G4 has altered things in general. Personally though the course should be even that gives a lot of competitors a fair shake at it. I know many disagree with that but the whole point of this tourney was "normal" people.. not people who train a lot for it. I'm not knocking the ones that do.. I mean in general I like the fact that in a given day a normal guy with a 9-5 job, 3 kids and (a hot bod LOL) can beat the course. I'm fearing the course is getting a wee bit too specialized (as a whole.. not just the first stage). If the Japanese audience feels the same way too (so far I'm hearing "boring" from searches right now) then it doesn't bode well. We'll have to see how this one was received in a couple days when the ratings come out. I think most of the "boring" parts of 26 were mainly from the bad editing. If they had just shown the American (and a few others') runs in full, I think the broadcast may have been much better to watch. That's from an American's perspective though. I don't think many Japanese people would say the same. Seeing one or two American's runs is satisfying enough to Japan. 5 for Stage two and 4 for stage 3 was probably too much American for TBS to show it all. |
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Post by thatoneuser on Jan 2, 2011 17:24:17 GMT -5
Honestly minus the snail this is one of the easiest First Stages in a while, if they would've had, say, the Log Grip there would have been 20-25 clears.
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Post by mikessssssss on Jan 2, 2011 17:41:33 GMT -5
Honestly minus the snail this is one of the easiest First Stages in a while, if they would've had, say, the Log Grip there would have been 20-25 clears. I don't see what's wrong with having 20 or so clears. Why is this a bad thing? If it is cheap then those not good enough will fail stage two. Having the most popular and best, along with some less hardcore or talented competitors, would surely provide more entertainment and competition - against the course of...course. I like the fact that you have to be at your very best and 100% concentrated to pass the first stage but thinking commerically and hedonistically, there seems to be no real argument that tells me it would be a bad thing if stage one was toned down technically. Also, I don't think it's unwise to suggest that more people would have passed the second stage than the first stage. Replace the barrel roll with the Escargot and, BAM, you have a harder, more unpredictable stage two. |
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Post by cole77000 on Jan 2, 2011 17:46:07 GMT -5
Now there is an idea ^
For ratings, it would be GREAT to have as many first stage clears as possible, but it would be good for practicality if we have a tougher 2nd stage.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2011 17:51:18 GMT -5
Now there is an idea ^ For ratings, it would be GREAT to have as many first stage clears as possible, but it would be good for practicality if we have a tougher 2nd stage. That's how it was back in the day. Better times imo, but the competitors were weaker at the time. |
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Post by RobbyMac on Jan 2, 2011 19:00:35 GMT -5
Maybe make the competitors start stage 2 with the rolling escargot. Better than the slider drop...... I think it should stay but it's brutal to be stage 1 obstacle 3.
So either: Modify it to make it easier and leave it in stage 1 obstacle 3.
or: Keep it the same and make it stage 2 obstacle 1.
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