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Post by Badalight on Jan 2, 2011 23:36:00 GMT -5
To be fair, brent and david were very similar this tourney. They even kinda look the same. It would be sort of redundant to show both of them so they chose who they liked better, or who got further.
The other of course since they weren't going to show BOTH of their stage 3 runs, they decided to FF him the entire time.
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Post by arsenette on Jan 2, 2011 23:38:43 GMT -5
He is awful. It was him who said Nagano became the New "Mr.Sasuke?" Dumb. Oh hey controversy equals success, ya know? Not really.. why do you think ratings suck in Japan?
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Post by lars072 on Jan 3, 2011 0:13:10 GMT -5
No matter what we think of USA vs. Japan or G4s involvement or whathave you, all that matters is what Japanese viewers think and we'll likely find out soon enough.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2011 0:24:50 GMT -5
Oh hey controversy equals success, ya know? Not really.. why do you think ratings suck in Japan? Yeah I don't get that. It's one thing to have controversy between competitors, or whatever, it's another thing to have the show's main guy spouting stupid sh*t. That's not controversy, it's just freaking annoying.
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Post by lars072 on Jan 3, 2011 0:55:17 GMT -5
It is obvious that TBS is trying to sell this Japan vs. America thing now and that's what they figure will result in higher ratings. Perhaps they think that Japanese viewers will be pissed off or disappointed and therefore continue to tune in to every SASUKE from here on to see if the Japanese can defeat the terrible Americans.
Sadly, their plans will backfire and Japanese will be turned off. Could be the last feeble attempt to save SASUKE...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2011 1:04:15 GMT -5
It is obvious that TBS is trying to sell this Japan vs. America thing now and that's what they figure will result in higher ratings. Perhaps they think that Japanese viewers will be pissed off or disappointed and therefore continue to tune in to every SASUKE from here on to see if the Japanese can defeat the terrible Americans. Sadly, their plans will backfire and Japanese will be turned off. Could be the last feeble attempt to save SASUKE... Why are you so sure? Did you get a major in advertising or something? None of us know what this is going to do. Hell, maybe the Japanese will want Japan back on the map in Sasuke. Who the hell knows.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2011 1:18:06 GMT -5
It is obvious that TBS is trying to sell this Japan vs. America thing now and that's what they figure will result in higher ratings. Perhaps they think that Japanese viewers will be pissed off or disappointed and therefore continue to tune in to every SASUKE from here on to see if the Japanese can defeat the terrible Americans. Sadly, their plans will backfire and Japanese will be turned off. Could be the last feeble attempt to save SASUKE... Whoever planned this whole thing was obviously in way over their heads.
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Post by Badalight on Jan 3, 2011 1:35:20 GMT -5
Lars, I think you're turning it into something that it's not. Every Sasuke has a "theme" and this was simply the theme of this Sasuke. Sometimes it's new stars vs. all stars. Whatever. If the americans did horribly this theme wouldn't be there. They saw a trend in this tournament and they went with it.
I would've preferred it to not be there, but this way at least each tournament is some-what distinguishable from the last.
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Post by arsenette on Jan 3, 2011 3:07:15 GMT -5
No Juice and Bada.. it's you guys that have no clue. Even the competitors themselves despise the labels especially when unwarranted. I guess ya'll are total Ogasawara fans and TBS groupies LOL Then again.. ya'll like when they made up half the stuff TBS invented anyway so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
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Post by lars072 on Jan 3, 2011 3:18:59 GMT -5
Oh geez....the fact is that TBS and M9 are just hanging on with SASUKE. I would think that if you are going to put in the time and money to have a new SASUKE event which is teetering on the bring of survival, then you'd come up with something amazing to draw in new viewers and fans.
OK having Naoto and sme new celebs may have helped and only time will tell if that was enough. But having this "theme" of America vs. Japan is not going to work and Japanese will be turned off despite what a few teenaged fans think in the US. It's all about ratings in Japan and not even G4s money is going to keep the show alive. If the ratings are bad in JAPAN, the show is dead- pure and simple.
If I'm wrong then I'll eat my words. But I just didn't like the feel of this SASUKE and every time they flashed the stats of America vs. Japan (and Taiwan) I cringed and knew TBS had f'ed it up. YOu could just see it in the eyes of some of the competitors- they weren't comfortable with this whole 'theme' and having pressure put on them in this way.
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Post by Badalight on Jan 3, 2011 10:47:17 GMT -5
No Juice and Bada.. it's you guys that have no clue. Even the competitors themselves despise the labels especially when unwarranted. I guess ya'll are total Ogasawara fans and TBS groupies LOL Then again.. ya'll like when they made up half the stuff TBS invented anyway so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. What are you talking about? I even said I didn't like the label. You wearing your reading glasses?
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Post by Badalight on Jan 3, 2011 10:48:46 GMT -5
Oh geez....the fact is that TBS and M9 are just hanging on with SASUKE. I would think that if you are going to put in the time and money to have a new SASUKE event which is teetering on the bring of survival, then you'd come up with something amazing to draw in new viewers and fans. OK having Naoto and sme new celebs may have helped and only time will tell if that was enough. But having this "theme" of America vs. Japan is not going to work and Japanese will be turned off despite what a few teenaged fans think in the US. It's all about ratings in Japan and not even G4s money is going to keep the show alive. If the ratings are bad in JAPAN, the show is dead- pure and simple. If I'm wrong then I'll eat my words. But I just didn't like the feel of this SASUKE and every time they flashed the stats of America vs. Japan (and Taiwan) I cringed and knew TBS had f'ed it up. YOu could just see it in the eyes of some of the competitors- they weren't comfortable with this whole 'theme' and having pressure put on them in this way. And you're just NOW starting to notice this? What about the past like 3 or 4 Sasuke when they kept putting up things like "New Stars Vs. All Stars". It's the same deal.
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Post by obakemono on Jan 3, 2011 11:56:36 GMT -5
Lars, I think you're turning it into something that it's not. Every Sasuke has a "theme" and this was simply the theme of this Sasuke. Sometimes it's new stars vs. all stars. Whatever. If the americans did horribly this theme wouldn't be there. They saw a trend in this tournament and they went with it. I would've preferred it to not be there, but this way at least each tournament is some-what distinguishable from the last. Agreed, it seemed like something they made up as the night went on when the Americans were passing and no one else was, something to drum up extra drama for whatever reason. If the Americans hadn't done well, they'd have barely featured in the broadcast at all.
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Post by arsenette on Jan 3, 2011 17:10:23 GMT -5
Problem is.. that's not helping the broadcast... no one likes it.. the competitors or viewing audience.. something TBS has always missed.. They try this EVERY tournament and the competitors blow it off.. this time was literally oppressing and actually caused problems for the Japanese competitors giving them undue pressure when they really like the Americans.
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Post by cole77000 on Jan 3, 2011 17:23:54 GMT -5
So they have never been strict with the resting time limit before? Geez. I don't understand this.
TBS needs ratings
Clears = Ratings
Less rest time = fewer clears
fewer clears = bad ratings
Doesnt matter whether those clears are Japanese, American, Taiwanese or anything else.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2011 17:30:26 GMT -5
No Juice and Bada.. it's you guys that have no clue. Even the competitors themselves despise the labels especially when unwarranted. I guess ya'll are total Ogasawara fans and TBS groupies LOL Then again.. ya'll like when they made up half the stuff TBS invented anyway so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. My post never really states that this VS. crap will help Sasuke's ratings, I just don't think it we should be so sure as to what it's going to do. You included. Like I said before, blog posts and stupid crap like that from Sasuke fans isn't what the general population of Japan think. I don't know what they think, but I doubt you, or anyone else does either. We just have to wait and see where the ratings lie.
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Post by arsenette on Jan 3, 2011 17:32:32 GMT -5
No Juice and Bada.. it's you guys that have no clue. Even the competitors themselves despise the labels especially when unwarranted. I guess ya'll are total Ogasawara fans and TBS groupies LOL Then again.. ya'll like when they made up half the stuff TBS invented anyway so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. My post never really states that this VS. crap will help Sasuke's ratings, I just don't think it we should be so sure as to what it's going to do. You included. Like I said before, blog posts and stupid crap like that from Sasuke fans isn't what the general population of Japan think. I don't know what they think, but I doubt you, or anyone else does either. We just have to wait and see where the ratings lie. I will concede that ONLY for Sasuke 26.. but the past has been crystal clear.. they don't like it.. so far blogland is saying "boring" but in order to say boring.. that means they watched it so let's see.
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Post by Oti on Jan 3, 2011 17:33:30 GMT -5
Like I said before, blog posts and stupid crap like that from Sasuke fans isn't what the general population of Japan think. I don't know what they think, but I doubt you, or anyone else does either. Makes sense.
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Post by arsenette on Jan 3, 2011 17:35:43 GMT -5
LOL Thanks Oti
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Post by quasikoz on Jan 3, 2011 17:35:45 GMT -5
So they have never been strict with the resting time limit before? Geez. I don't understand this. TBS needs ratings Clears = Ratings Less rest time = fewer clears fewer clears = bad ratings Doesnt matter whether those clears are Japanese, American, Taiwanese or anything else. If you've been reading this thread. Who clears is VERY important. TBS cares about the All-Stars and Celebrities. Why do you think you saw so much of EXILE during Sasuke26? They're the hot ticket everyone in Japan wants to see. A Japanese audience doesn't want to see a bunch of Americans dominate the stage, leaving only old Muscle Musical contestants and a 40-year-old former sprinter carrying the Japanese flag for the audience. Okuyama and Iketani have some popularity, but none that drive ratings for Sasuke.
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