How would you rate Sasuke 25 overall?

[wolf4537]

I thought it was a great tournament, going a bit retro and keeping things very hard and also introducing some of the hardest obstacles I've seen and a couple of certain obstacles that I don't think will be passable for quite some time. Also a lot of unexpected events happened in the tournament too but overall I thought it was great.

I'd give it 9 out of 10.

[arsenette]

Ditto on what you said and same score
I like the mix of old and new and placement played a factor here on where these things were located. A good mix of people passed each stage.. not too many not too little. Personally I think it was a perfect tourney but docked a number just because certain favorites didn't make it to the 3rd tehehhehehe. Still though I like this one a lot.

[YoDaUO]

7. I was expecting a bit more on the first, second stage. But the green warped wall cracked me up for some reason. Because of that i said 8.

[lars072]

Sorry I disagree. I gave it a 5 as I was disappointed with the layout of the course. I wanted new obstacles in stage 1, not recycled obstacles that everyone can beat (except Nagano). Stage 2 was easier than the old stage 2 IMO- the new Salmon Ladder wasn't that hard. More people should have beaten stage 2 except for a few mental meltdowns. Stage 3 was nice but why have a CH that is unbeatable. I mean none of the 4 guys could even touch the first top bar and these are 4 of the 5 guys that were in the final last time. IF they took out the first 2 diagonal ledges, then maybe I'd say it's possible.

I couldn't believe the number of stupid mistakes and mental errors that these supposed top competitors made. Nagano, Takeda, Yuuji, Levi, Shingo (surprise) and Kanno all made silly rookie mistakes.

[venomcarnage89]

Im feeling a score between 8 and 9, but I voted 9. Its not a 10 for the same reason arsenette said and because I really do not like the rolling log, plus the second stage's minimal changes. Other than that I loved it all though and I really enjoyed the entire tourny. Iliked the feel of the show with the green and the older obstacles back(aside from rolling log) it felt like a remake of the old and @ Yodauo I personally loved the green warped wall, I thought it looked really cool. Its good to have a very hard stage 3 but Im going to say it right now that stage will either get beaten in 26 or come very close to it.

[supernovamaniac]

Mar 28, 2010 11:15:42 GMT -5 lars072 said:

why have a CH that is unbeatable.

I'm sorry.

Didn't people have a say about this when SASUKE 18 was aired?


Oh and based on your theory, everyone who has the potential should achieve Kanzenseiha every tournament, right? Because that's what you're saying.

Heck, 24 was much worse than this, and I can pretty much say that you like that one much better than 25.

[Badalight]

The pinnacle of a tournament would be

8

12

and

23

Those are by far in my opinon the best tournaments of all time. So I'd have it compare this to those, and it doesn't fare well, but I did thoroughly enjoy it!

8/10 for me, the 3 I listed are the only tournaments I'd give a 10/10 to.

[Deleted]

It was pretty good. I wanted more new obstacles and less old obstacles.

This is a "Renewal" after all.

But I think there focus was the 3rd stage, and its a damn good 3rd stage, so I'm happy.

This happened in 18->20. The 3rd stage didn't change all that much. But than as 20 came around, it got a make over. I'm hoping the same thing will happen with the first stage.

As for the competitors, it was really exciting. I like seeing underdogs going far, so the fact that Brian went further than Levi, and Shingo and Tekeda went further than Nagano, was cool to me. (But dissapointing of course.)

7/10.

[gtoneko]

With the overall feel of the tournament, I gave it an 8. It was definitely interesting to see the placements of the older obstacles in the first stage that more than likely did have their effect on everyone.
Jump Hang immediately after the Rolling Log? Not everyone can get themselves reoriented so quick.


With stage 2 having a daunting Salmon Ladder, it once again has taken it's toll, especially considering that it seems now that stage 2 has become a stage 3 of sorts, just timed.


Stage 3 had some nice new obstacles, plus with the Ultimate Cliff Hanger, I think everyone had to change their shorts after seeing it up close.




Only thing now after seeing this tournament, it's going to be time for alot of us to be set to train for the version 5 of the Cliff Hanger and get ready for some springboard training as well.

[TCM]

I gave it a solid 8. Doesn't deserve more because no one got even halfway on the UCH. Doesn't deserve less because it kept me interested the entire broadcast.

[japantv1210]

I'm stuck between giving it an 8 or a 9. I really liked the excitement and tension. I was a bit disappointed with stage one's obstacles, but it did have alot of surprises. Stage two was awesome with plenty of unexpected falls. And stage three was amazing. I don't get why some are saying the Ultimate Cliffhanger is unbeatable though. A tester clearly demonstrated that it was indeed possible, and I'm sure most if not all of Uncli and all the new stars have practiced on a replica of the obstacle already haha. So I really would not be surprised if it was beaten in 26. I guess I'll give the tournament an 8.

[intelligentinfer]

8/10. They focused on stage 3 too much and left the first 2 stages out. Shocking, and I like the redesigned stage 3.

[bigblind168]

Its a Solid B, 8.5 (voted 8)
I enjoyed the first stage, minus the bridge jump, theres a reason why it didnt make Shin-Sasuke. I liked the pace stage 1 took, it felt like a long sprint, and not a jog/marathon. Fast paced, tons of action. Very well made IMO

2nd stage, a was HIGHLY disapointed. I mean I absolutely LOVE the metal spin, but their "tweek* of it, wasnt really to much. I like the first 2 obstacles. I didnt think the bridge should have been back. Im glad the balance tank track got long, but it needs a drop IMO.
My focus on the Metal Spin: 14-17 run up, higher up, farther away. Make'em jump high and far for that chandelier.

3rd Stage, Imagine a CRAZY party in hell, where Hitler and Satan had a few to many inthem and SOMEHOW made a baby. They named it Sasuke 25's 3rd stage. A new rumbling dic--- ermm cylinder, which it looks like they took out of a robot. A nice twist on the grasper obstacle, should have been a peg board tho. LOVED the plank hold. but i think you could have tarzan jumped this, and skipped boards using momentum,and not have all 4 limbs on the board.
And the cliff hanger, remember tht baby i talk about a while ago? Well it had a baby with Saddam Hussein, they named it "Ultimate cliffhanger". I mean...HOLY F*CKING SH*TBALLS! that is... it made me cry with joy how amazing it was. Then what we saw with demonstrators; ring jump, i like it. could take out a few. I LOVE the twist on the rope junction. Seems like a clever idea. And the jumping pipe... ummm I think im inlove ]

So overall, the pace was good, and I liked 1, dissapointed in 2 and LOVED 3. Good obstacles and good new twist on them and i liked the arrangment. Some tweaks should be made tho, .I felt stage 2 held this back from an A-/A. But overall, this was a very good and solid tournament, and very entertaining. Something you can watch when your bored on saturday nights (instead of crying cuz u have no social life... or is that just me?)

[lars072]

Mar 28, 2010 12:03:21 GMT -5 @supernovamaniac said:

Mar 28, 2010 11:15:42 GMT -5 lars072 said:

why have a CH that is unbeatable.

I'm sorry.

Didn't people have a say about this when SASUKE 18 was aired?


Oh and based on your theory, everyone who has the potential should achieve Kanzenseiha every tournament, right? Because that's what you're saying.

Heck, 24 was much worse than this, and I can pretty much say that you like that one much better than 25.

Yes, but the obstacles before the shin CH were nott hat demanding. The only reason why people failed it is because they didn't know the technique. They had the energy but just neded to make the jump. Once they did that, almost everyone cleared it. The new CH is all arm strength basically and look at the number of ledges. Going from 3 ledges (where you jump frm 1 to another) to 6 ledges (2 diagonal and 4 horizontal with a tiny ledge barely big enough for 2 hands) is insanity. And remembe the gap b'w the 2nd and 3rd ledge where you to somehow pull yourself up and grab the top ledge. Yeah right...

Unless they modify the stage and the CH, you won't see anyone pass that (and you can quote me on that one).

[jfeathe]

I gave sasuke 25 a 7.

Here's my breakdown:

Stage 1: 10/10 Perfect. This is what the first stage is all about. Great obstacles, the right difficulty, and the ideal time limit. It allowed the pretty good but not great competitors to make it far in the stage which has always been true of the first stage until 18-24.

Stage 2: 3/10. I don't think a crappy new first obstacle, a Salmon Ladder where you turn around and jump, and 10 additional seconds is what you call a renewal. The producers should be thankful that there were a enough "dumb slipups" and "freak falls" to make it look somewhat challenging. In the next tournament I am expecting close to everyone to clear if nothing is changed.

Stage 3: ?/10. The whole stage had a eerie, surreal feel. Maybe it was because I was sleep deprived ;D or maybe it was because the obstacles were new. The first 3 obstacles were really awkward and clunky (especially the first 2 combo obstacles). IDK, everything just felt weird in the third stage.

Also, even though we haven't seen the rest of the third stage, I already don't like it too much. Why in heaven's name do they have TWO jumping obstacles. IMO, there is no creativity there. I think once the UCH is figured out, there will be a Kanzenseiha in no time.

Overall I gave it a 7 out of 10. I love the first stage and the third stage for now seems impossible once again.

[Badalight]

Mar 29, 2010 8:20:05 GMT -5 lars072 said:

Mar 28, 2010 12:03:21 GMT -5 @supernovamaniac said:

I'm sorry.

Didn't people have a say about this when SASUKE 18 was aired?


Oh and based on your theory, everyone who has the potential should achieve Kanzenseiha every tournament, right? Because that's what you're saying.

Heck, 24 was much worse than this, and I can pretty much say that you like that one much better than 25.

Yes, but the obstacles before the shin CH were nott hat demanding. The only reason why people failed it is because they didn't know the technique. They had the energy but just neded to make the jump. Once they did that, almost everyone cleared it. The new CH is all arm strength basically and look at the number of ledges. Going from 3 ledges (where you jump frm 1 to another) to 6 ledges (2 diagonal and 4 horizontal with a tiny ledge barely big enough for 2 hands) is insanity. And remembe the gap b'w the 2nd and 3rd ledge where you to somehow pull yourself up and grab the top ledge. Yeah right...

Unless they modify the stage and the CH, you won't see anyone pass that (and you can quote me on that one).

The obstacle before weren't demanding? I'd really like to see you do that. This is exactly like 18. The shin-cliffhanger was thought to be impossible until people got used to it.

We know fromt he start the tourney would end on the new cliff-hanger, this was not a surprise. it is not unbeatable and I don't think M9 will change it. it they did we'd just be getting 5 people at the final stage once again and the show would be retarded. Shin-Sasuke fell apart towards the end, and 24 was pretty disastorous. 3rd stage became a joke while stage 1 was deadly. That is the exact opposite of what is supposed to happen.

They fixed it, its good now, Sasuke 25 is a large step in the right direction.

[lars072]

[/quote]They fixed it, its good now, Sasuke 25 is a large step in the right direction.[/quote]

Then why the terrible ratings then?

[arsenette]

Mar 29, 2010 21:05:32 GMT -5 lars072 said:

They fixed it, its good now, Sasuke 25 is a large step in the right direction.

Then why the terrible ratings then?

This is where I disagree. The content/obstacles was not the problem with the ratings. People just didn't watch it because celebrities were not there and there was like.. no advertising. Disagree with how the actual obstacles were laid out but that is completely separate from the ratings issues.. no one watched to b*tch about the course

[VenusHeadTrap]

Mar 29, 2010 21:05:32 GMT -5 lars072 said:

They fixed it, its good now, Sasuke 25 is a large step in the right direction.[/quote]

Then why the terrible ratings then?[/quote]
No no Bada means the course is a step toward a more balanced course where stage 1 to 3 are more appropriately like they use to be. I would agree that stage 1 shouldn't be a long marathon no more and stage 3 relentlessly hard.

[arsenette]

Given the last 24 hours it is almost certain that the actual course layout is a huge contention for literally half of the SMF population. Lars is hardly the only person that doesn't like the layout. he's just the most vocal I would venture to saying that half of us like it and half of us hate it. I'm in the like it category. I love the flow of the first and 2nd stage and the 3rd is kinda weird.. while others hate the 1-2nd thinking it's "too easy" and they love the 3rd stage. I think most of us can agree that the crux of most heated arguments centers around the Ultimate Cliffhanger. I think most arguments start and end with that obstacle alone.