sasuke1247
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Post by sasuke1247 on Oct 24, 2008 22:22:59 GMT -5
Just pick John Adler for congress and I like Obama.
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Post by Badalight on Oct 25, 2008 0:30:13 GMT -5
Not supporting Mcain here or anything, but he has a history of going against his party, and specifically bush legislation. Only 1 of 2 republican senators to go against Bush's initial tax break which did a lot of harm.
Still, I don't think Mcain is thinking everything through, he has some nice ideas, but he's not thinking of how he can make those happen or the consequences. How is he going to give these tax breaks? He's going to have to get the money from somewhere else, which Obama thinks he'll take out of medicare.
So yeah... I honestly havn't been following it since I can't vote anyway, I just wish theyw ould sotp bashing eachother and talk about the issues, I don't care about some stupid projector Obama voted for in the past, I don't care about stupid decisions Mcain has made, talk about what you're going to do as president, jesus christ.
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Post by The Chief on Oct 25, 2008 9:45:34 GMT -5
I'm voting for Joe the Plumber! (if I was old enough)
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Post by bigblind168 on Oct 25, 2008 15:10:33 GMT -5
im in 8th so i cnt vote, but i'd vote obama sum other things...
mom is writing in hilliary dad leaning oba,a, might write in hiiary everyone in house thinks obamas a fraud
also
i laughed so hard wen i saw the obamas a terrorist thing! LOL
my grandmother keeps saying he's a muslim terrorist!
but if i culd vote i'd either vote obama or Kermit the Frog
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Post by The Chief on Oct 25, 2008 21:35:56 GMT -5
TO make a long story short.. 1. Lied about religion 2. Preacher said he hated America 3. Has muslim ties and could easily plan a "bombing" 4. Skirts around issues and says time for a change, I don't see that slogan as positive. 5.At least to me, something feels "off" about him, I just don't trust him. 6. "Seems like he's just perfect by the way he acts", yeah the people that told me this r wrong, he seems perfect, but he's not.(Note: not being racist, but the people that told me this were black) 7. We don't know as much about him as we do McCain, something is definately fishy about that.(Don't say that it's b/c he is old) Yeah that's all I can really think of, thats why I think he is a terrorist. Wow, everything you said is true! I'm guessing you don't watch NBC.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Oct 25, 2008 22:00:09 GMT -5
I think that we're screwed either way, neither candidate is a good choice, Neither of them has a good plan about the issues and they dance around them whenever they can. And think about it, look at how bad the candidates are, someone without too much experience and someone who voted with bush 90 percent of the time. And besides that even some smaller things about the candidates can be used to prove they aren't a good choice, I mean Obama said he wasn't going to use mudslinging, but I've yet to see a commercial supporting him that doesn't say something bad about McCain, And McCain says he goes against the republicans yet like I said before, he voted with bush 90% of the time, besides that hes always talking about how he was a PoW, doesn't that mean you're not a good soldier if you're bad enough to get captured? (Yes, I know how you fight has nothing to do with how to run a country, just making an observation, because both things require tactical skills)
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Post by talledega7 on Oct 26, 2008 14:03:30 GMT -5
McCain has been trying for years to make being a PoW sound like the ultimate example of Patriotism. He sat in a bamboo cell for a few years and got poked with a stick. Sounds really patriotic to me. By that definition, every serial killer, baby rapist, and all around scumbag sitting in America's maximum security prison is a true patriot.
Now, I'm not saying McCain is any of those things. I'm sure that in person, he is a very nice guy who actually probably does act like that crazy grandpa that all the kids love while the parents roll their eyes at and smile. But anyone with half a brain can tell that being a PoW is not a good thing to put on a Presidential resume.
Unfortunately, it seems to me that most Americans lack the half a brain to understand that.
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Post by Yojimbo on Nov 3, 2008 17:25:30 GMT -5
what that tells us is that he was there once on both sides of the conflict. He has experience behind a desk a tank and a cage.
Can you tell the difference between a soldier and a baby rapist? That's probably the most stupid thing i've heard here.
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sasuke1247
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Post by sasuke1247 on Nov 3, 2008 18:19:11 GMT -5
TO make a long story short.. 1. Lied about religion 2. Preacher said he hated America 3. Has muslim ties and could easily plan a "bombing" 4. Skirts around issues and says time for a change, I don't see that slogan as positive. 5.At least to me, something feels "off" about him, I just don't trust him. 6. "Seems like he's just perfect by the way he acts", yeah the people that told me this r wrong, he seems perfect, but he's not.(Note: not being racist, but the people that told me this were black) 7. We don't know as much about him as we do McCain, something is definately fishy about that.(Don't say that it's b/c he is old) Yeah that's all I can really think of, thats why I think he is a terrorist. s*** i find this freaking effensing. I am muslim believe or not. The people on 9/11 weren't muslims, i know the religion and a muslim wouuld never do that. I hate reading stuff bashing muslims and obama. His mom was muslim and he is christan(the way i know it) ya go wild a person on the bords is muslim
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Post by Yojimbo on Nov 3, 2008 20:39:55 GMT -5
a lot of the people on these forums are still growing up. you can't be too upset with their ignorance. I feel you my man. I'm not even muslim and i felt offended.
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Post by bigblind168 on Nov 3, 2008 21:00:44 GMT -5
TO make a long story short.. 1. Lied about religion 2. Preacher said he hated America 3. Has muslim ties and could easily plan a "bombing" 4. Skirts around issues and says time for a change, I don't see that slogan as positive. 5.At least to me, something feels "off" about him, I just don't trust him. 6. "Seems like he's just perfect by the way he acts", yeah the people that told me this r wrong, he seems perfect, but he's not.(Note: not being racist, but the people that told me this were black) 7. We don't know as much about him as we do McCain, something is definately fishy about that.(Don't say that it's b/c he is old) Yeah that's all I can really think of, thats why I think he is a terrorist. s**t i find this freaking effensing. I am muslim believe or not. The people on 9/11 weren't muslims, i know the religion and a muslim wouuld never do that. I hate reading stuff bashing muslims and obama. His mom was muslim and he is christan(the way i know it) ya go wild a person on the bords is muslim Well it is believed that the people responsible for 9/11 for radical muslims,they took the Koran extremely literally and got a killer (bad pun indentand) meaning from it. Liker every religion there are alot of good guys and sum mentally effed up guys (Osama bin Ladan, Catholic Priests that molest kids ect.)
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Post by 2D2Will on Nov 3, 2008 22:07:35 GMT -5
I just voted. See. All who are registered should do the same by tomorrow.
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Post by The Chief on Nov 3, 2008 22:20:57 GMT -5
s**t i find this freaking effensing. I am muslim believe or not. The people on 9/11 weren't muslims, i know the religion and a muslim wouuld never do that. I hate reading stuff bashing muslims and obama. His mom was muslim and he is christan(the way i know it) ya go wild a person on the bords is muslim Well it is believed that the people responsible for 9/11 for radical muslims,they took the Koran extremely literally and got a killer (bad pun indentand) meaning from it. Liker every religion there are alot of good guys and sum mentally effed up guys (Osama bin Ladan, Catholic Priests that molest kids ect.) murder, like in most other religions, is extremly horrendous in Islam. (I know some Muslims.)
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Post by talledega7 on Nov 4, 2008 9:09:06 GMT -5
what that tells us is that he was there once on both sides of the conflict. He has experience behind a desk a tank and a cage. Can you tell the difference between a soldier and a baby rapist? That's probably the most stupid thing i've heard here. If you read what I said, I said that he ISN'T a baby rapist/serial killer/ all-around scumbag. I said that he's probably a very nice guy in his private life. But I'm sorry. Being a PoW is not executive experience. And no one ever says what he did while sitting in the cage. Did he lead his fellow prisoners? Did he speak to his captors, trying to get himself and his fellow soldiers freed? Or did he just sit there and sulk because he's an American, dammit, and as such is better than the Vietnamese who outfought him?
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Post by Jhonsun on Nov 4, 2008 14:19:18 GMT -5
I'm going to say something that may or may not come across as controversial. If you: - know that you are not interested or don't pay attention to what's going on in the world
- don't know anything objective about the candidates or what they stand for
- don't know anything about your state or local ballot measures
- don't even know what some of the political offices are that you are electing people to
- only know what slate-mailers, campaign commercials, celebrity endorsements, or just plain hear-say tells you
- maybe it isn't such a good idea to "just get out and vote". You have a legal right to do it, but is it really such a virtuous thing if you look down at your ballot and don't know who anybody is or what the ballot initiatives really do? Most people don't pay attention to the news, don't understand how government works, don't understand the Constitution or what the governmental abuses were that it was formed in response to. To all of the sudden vote for a President and be involved in the political process for the first time in 1,459 days seems a bit problematic to me. Don't get me wrong. I'm not telling anybody not to vote. I'm not trying to disenfranchise or discourage. If anything, I'm suggesting that we should be more involved on a daily basis (reading/watching news, learning about government/economy, determining what our social views are and challenging ourselves to be more certain about them) so that when we do vote, we can see through the obvious lies and misleading statements that candidates or groups make because we know better. P.S. Just in case this sounds to you like a Democrat discouraging McCain/Palin voters or a Republican discouraging Obama/Biden voters, let me just say that I cast my ballot this morning and I voted for a President, but I didn't vote for either McCain or Obama.
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Post by obakemono on Nov 4, 2008 18:07:12 GMT -5
It's perfectly reasonable not to exercise your right to vote, whatever your motivation may be. I don't imagine most voters have sources outside of media (mass or otherwise) and what the candidates themselves or their party directly say. It can be difficult to find anything even approaching an unbiased source sometimes. I find the trick can be piecing things together from a variety of biased/'motivated' sources, to find the things that actually ring true. I'm not really one to talk, though, because I've done very little research into this election, but hey, I'm not a US citizen.
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Post by SuperTiger on Nov 4, 2008 19:51:54 GMT -5
I'm srry if anyone was offened, I mean I live in South CArolina, so I'm gonna have republican ideas put into my head, I not trying to be extremely radical about Obama, b/c I can name a ton of reasons why McCain sucks to. So srry everyone
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Post by bigblind168 on Nov 4, 2008 20:09:13 GMT -5
, but I didn't vote for either McCain or Obama. Wooo Nader '08 baby!!!! lol
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Post by obakemono on Nov 4, 2008 21:46:27 GMT -5
If current projections are accurate, Obama's basically got this in the bag.
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Post by bigblind168 on Nov 4, 2008 21:59:58 GMT -5
obamas had it in th bad since halloween
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