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Post by Oti on Mar 24, 2010 13:50:57 GMT -5
That doesn't matter. If it's not allowed, no one should be allowed to do it, simple as that. Nagano's Cliff Hanger grab in 18 comes to mind.
I actually hope we're not allowed to use our feet. It seems cheap. Like cheating, almost.
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Post by TCM on Mar 24, 2010 18:41:11 GMT -5
That doesn't matter. If it's not allowed, no one should be allowed to do it, simple as that. Nagano's Cliff Hanger grab in 18 comes to mind. I actually hope we're not allowed to use our feet. It seems cheap. Like cheating, almost. Keep in mind he disqualified himself. And so that the mistake won't happen again, M9 boarded that section off. I understand what you're saying, but chances are, they would have waited until the end instead of disqualifying him right then and there.
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Post by Oti on Mar 24, 2010 22:38:08 GMT -5
Which I don't get. They should sound the horn immediately and be like, "Yo man, 15 minute break. Get ready for a redo."
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Post by arsenette on Mar 24, 2010 22:48:52 GMT -5
You mean Nagano in 18? He argued with them.. from what I remember he was saying "nope I didn't do it" and they kept saying to do it over because it was a technical flaw they did not think of until it was "exploited" by virtue of his grab. Also from what I heard.. this went on for 20 minutes. which is why even in the G4 version you saw him with a flustered almost frustrated look of "c'mon guys.. just.. accept it.." LOL
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Post by davidcampbell on Mar 24, 2010 23:15:28 GMT -5
I think they would disqualify for using it the whole time but I think a few hits here and there would slide (make it look like an accident ) but I think the angle of the wall makes it pretty hard to do. What I'm wondering whats stopping you stop you from stepping on the ledge when going up?? Oh trust me just lightly pressing your feet on something while climbing helps a lot, even with an angle like that. Takes just a tiny amount of weight off the fingers, but the added stability and confidence it gives you is huge.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 24, 2010 23:31:38 GMT -5
I think they would disqualify for using it the whole time but I think a few hits here and there would slide (make it look like an accident ) but I think the angle of the wall makes it pretty hard to do. What I'm wondering whats stopping you stop you from stepping on the ledge when going up?? Oh trust me just lightly pressing your feet on something while climbing helps a lot, even with an angle like that. Takes just a tiny amount of weight off the fingers, but the added stability and confidence it gives you is huge. I think you completely mised what I was saying.. I know that.. XD What I meant was the angle of the wall would probably make it harder to do that (or at least harder to make it look like an accident )
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Post by Oti on Mar 24, 2010 23:36:16 GMT -5
I don't remember any of that. I remember him having that same, "Darn, failed an obstacle" look he always has when he's finished.
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Post by baronbk on Mar 25, 2010 1:38:14 GMT -5
If you pause it the moment it switches to him, looks exactly like he is pushing up with his foot on the ledge, its so fast its hard to tell if he is or is not. Either way though, I think it would be funny if they disqualify you for that. I do wonder though if you are allowed to just try to jump up to the higher ledges from the start if indeed you can. Yeah we put it through slow-mo and saw that it's just his foot swinging. We were wondering about the disqualification thing too, cause if you can step on the angled ledges, it would make it real easy to get to the top ledge haha.
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Post by thebobmaster on Mar 25, 2010 2:34:51 GMT -5
You mean Nagano in 18? He argued with them.. from what I remember he was saying "nope I didn't do it" and they kept saying to do it over because it was a technical flaw they did not think of until it was "exploited" by virtue of his grab. Also from what I heard.. this went on for 20 minutes. which is why even in the G4 version you saw him with a flustered almost frustrated look of "c'mon guys.. just.. accept it.." LOL Did I mention I love Nagano? Because I do. This is a prime example of how fair of a competitor he is. Did they spot him? No. Were they willing to let him go on? Yes. Was he willing to go on? No. He disqualified himself on the spot for going off-course, even if they didn't.
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Post by arsenette on Mar 25, 2010 2:38:59 GMT -5
I don't remember any of that. I remember him having that same, "Darn, failed an obstacle" look he always has when he's finished. Nah that part was shortened in both TBS and G4 (more heavily so there). The whole 20 minutes thing was someone who was actually there watching. It was actually kinda funny then at the end he had a "I'm waiting on you guys to finally give it up. I can be more stubborn than you" face! LOL Even folded his arms waiting for them to get a clue. Finally Higuchi (disgusted LOL) decided.. alright alright.. he's right.. I don't like it.. because it was our fault.. but he's right. For those who were there (I wish I was /cry) it was a strange then hilarious situation with him trying to out-stubborn everyone LOL Higuchi had a bad day with 18 in general since some things just didn't want to work right so that's the last thing he wanted happening to his returning champion.
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Post by artyfowljr on Mar 25, 2010 9:10:53 GMT -5
Off-Topic: You mean Nagano in 18? He argued with them.. from what I remember he was saying "nope I didn't do it" and they kept saying to do it over because it was a technical flaw they did not think of until it was "exploited" by virtue of his grab. Also from what I heard.. this went on for 20 minutes. which is why even in the G4 version you saw him with a flustered almost frustrated look of "c'mon guys.. just.. accept it.." LOL Did I mention I love Nagano? Because I do. This is a prime example of how fair of a competitor he is. Did they spot him? No. Were they willing to let him go on? Yes. Was he willing to go on? No. He disqualified himself on the spot for going off-course, even if they didn't. Seconded. Thirded by my best friend, also On-Topic: The first 2 diagonal ledges are wider on the bottom than on the top to compensate for the angle of the plywood they are attached to. So they're basically flat on the top. Don't ask how I know, but I know Good. Anyway, does anybody else wonder if going up from the second to the third ledge might be the hardest part?
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Post by venomcarnage89 on Mar 25, 2010 9:58:25 GMT -5
I don't think that is the hardest part, jumping upwards from a cliffhanger ledge isn't really all that difficult. The hardest part will be the accuracy needed on the small ledge then jumping to the next one from it. Still not uber-hard but definitely more difficult than the reach up.
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Post by artyfowljr on Mar 25, 2010 11:19:14 GMT -5
Even tho I agree, the small ledge will be a killer, I think the angle could add some extra difficulty to the first passage.
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