I Just Chinned...

[Oti]

With an extra 90 lbs around my waist!

So, at a body weight of 155 lbs, that means I could still do a chin-up if I were as heavy as 245 lbs!

Donuts, here I come!

And for a drink, I'm thinking gravy.

[texas]

Congrats on the +90lbs. You could probably do more at 245 if you keep practicing pullups because you would have 90lbs more muscle (yes I know all that wouldn't be LBM, but go with me here).

For a good example, look at the thread I made in the general forum where I posted vids of Konstantin Konstantinovs doing 55 BW and BW+132x4 pullups at a BW of around 277lbs.

[Oti]

Haha, thanks, but I'm never going to get over 180 lbs. That's the limit I set a long time ago. There's just no reason for it. Honestly, I doubt I'm ever gonna be over 160 lbs.

[jag3034]

Congrats!! Very impressive man.

[Oti]

Thank ya.

[artyfowljr]

wow congrats!!!!!

[Oti]

Thank you.

[davidcampbell]

That's funny we're about the same height and I kinda set a similar mark for myself at 180. Like if I ever wanted to get really muscular just for the hell of it that's about as far as I'd go.
163 feels pretty good for me, I've been up to 170 and that was good too, having all that extra power, I could do pull ups like mad, but it's hard to judge considering I was 18 at the time, also I had slightly higher bodyfat then as I wasn't vegeterian.
I definately feel a lot better at 163 than I did at 155 though.

Anyway yeah, congrats on the pull up!

[jag3034]

Everyone has different ambitions with their bodies. I think as long as you dont start hurting your agility/body weight exercises from gaining too much weight its all good. I myself am 5'10" and 195 pounds(still trying to gain weight) with somewhere between 11-13% BF and I am still improving on pull ups, dips, etc... as I gain weight

[texas]

Aug 16, 2009 19:24:23 GMT -5 jag3034 said:

Everyone has different ambitions with their bodies. I think as long as you dont start hurting your agility/body weight exercises from gaining too much weight its all good. I myself am 5'10" and 195 pounds(still trying to gain weight) with somewhere between 11-13% BF and I am still improving on pull ups, dips, etc... as I gain weight

True. How much you way shouldn't be an excuse for not being able to do a pullup or dip. I lifted with a guy that was around 280 at the time, and he could do more pullups than 90% of the gym (although thats not saying too much at a public gym). You get better at what you practice.

And with the weight, its just what you want to do. For most people here, weighing a lot is a disadvantage. For powerlifters you want to weigh as much as you can in your weight class. Its just what you want to do.

[Oti]

Yeah, there's no excuse not to be able to pull/chin-up. People say they're too heavy when really, they're too WEAK.

My strength training is purely strength, so I don't gain much weight. I've only gained four or five pounds in the past eight or nine months. That's not bad. Also, because of the way I train, I'm rarely sore.

But yeah. I don't even want to be over 160 lbs, but I've set 180 lbs as the absolute limit.

Even at 150 lbs (with a low body fat percentage, so you're all muscle) that can be a ridiculous amount of strength.

My goal has always been to be as strong as possible while staying as light as possible. I don't have a reason to gain weight, so I avoid it.

[RiderLeangle]

So if a lighter (in comparison) person held a 40 pound punching bag between their legs and did 3 pull ups is that comparable?

[Oti]

Comparable to what?

[RiderLeangle]

You doing one with 90.

And BTW. Instead of 3, make that 4

[Oti]

Make the 90 lbs 100 lbs.

It's comparable, I guess. It's not the same, but it's probably close enough.

But, since you're lighter than I am (I assume) it means you have less strength.

[bigblind168]

Aug 19, 2009 22:49:38 GMT -5 Oti said:

Make the 90 lbs 100 lbs.

It's comparable, I guess. It's not the same, but it's probably close enough.

But, since you're lighter than I am (I assume) it means you have less strength.

not nessesarily.

Say ur 180lbs
and rider is 160lbs

but u have 15% body fat
and rider has 0%

so riders weight is all muscle
while yours is fat and muscle

[Oti]

Muscle does not mean strength, though. And you missed the point.

What I was trying to say was that since Rider weighs less than I do, if we chin with the same amount of added weight, he is weaker because he is lifting less weight.

Say we both use 100 lbs:

Rider's weight is 140 lbs, plus 100 lbs, so Rider is chinning 240 lbs.

My weight is 155 lbs, plus 100 lbs, which means I'm chinning with 255 lbs.

Since we're both maxing out with this weight, this is the limit of our strength and I am stronger because I'm using more weight.

Does that make sense?

[bigblind168]

yeah, but i still think ur wrong.


ur adding 65.4% of weight
Rider is adding 71.4% of his weight.

So rider is really lifting more.

[Lennon]

You're also forgeting that when you do pull-ups you're using your own weight as well. That is why Oti is saying that he is using more weight.

[Oti]

Lennon, he thinks that because Rider is lighter than I am and the extra weight we've added is a higher percentage of Rider's body weight than it is mine, Rider is stronger, but that's not the case.

Rider is lifting less because his total is less than mine. He's adding more, yeah, and means he has more relative strength (he's strong for his size), but I'm still lifting more, though, so I'm stronger.

It's like me with 50 lbs around my waist and some 200 lbs guy doing chin-ups. We're both chinning the same amount (basically). He's chinning with his body weight, I'm chinning with 130% body weight.

That doesn't mean I'm stronger, though. He's added 0% body weight and I've added about 30%, but we're both lifting the same amount of weight.

I do have more RELATIVE strength, though, because I am smaller but just as strong. Pound for pound, I've stronger than him. But, that's only relative strength, not actual strength.

Does THAT make sense? o.O