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Post by obakemono on Apr 24, 2009 14:21:48 GMT -5
They're still the fan favourites. Plus, there are no consistent performers on Shin-Sasuke. Not one. You're wrong. Aoki does consistantly bad every time. Touché.
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Post by BLM on May 30, 2009 20:37:48 GMT -5
Yamada and Shiritori are the only ones past their prime. The rest are still in there prime it is just that the course has gotten way harder
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Post by Oti on May 30, 2009 20:41:02 GMT -5
I disagree. I don't think Yamada is past his prime. He's still in amazing shape and he's somehow faster than he used to be. He's just making dumb mistakes. Bunpei is old, though. Sadly.
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Post by BLM on May 30, 2009 20:47:41 GMT -5
Several recent posts seem to revolve around "How would Katsumi Yamada do on the Salmon Ladder?" Well, that's an interesting question. He does have the upper body strength, but I don't think that would be enough. I would think he'd perform about the same as Koji did, who also has plenty of upper body strength. Surely he's practiced it... I mean.. seriously... I cannot fathom a world where that man didn't practice a Sasuke obstacle of it's infamy. That said, I can't think of a time I've heard of him performing it in public, like Muscle Park or some festival. Can anyone think of such a time? I agree Koji has about the same upper body streghth as Katsumi so they will probably fail the same way
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Post by obakemono on May 30, 2009 20:56:45 GMT -5
I disagree. I don't think Yamada is past his prime. He's still in amazing shape and he's somehow faster than he used to be. He's just making dumb mistakes. We haven't yet seen enough evidence to say that he's prone to injury, but after 21, he may be.
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Post by scnoi1217 on May 30, 2009 21:23:00 GMT -5
Several recent posts seem to revolve around "How would Katsumi Yamada do on the Salmon Ladder?" Well, that's an interesting question. He does have the upper body strength, but I don't think that would be enough. I would think he'd perform about the same as Koji did, who also has plenty of upper body strength. Surely he's practiced it... I mean.. seriously... I cannot fathom a world where that man didn't practice a Sasuke obstacle of it's infamy. That said, I can't think of a time I've heard of him performing it in public, like Muscle Park or some festival. Can anyone think of such a time? I agree Koji has about the same upper body streghth as Katsumi so they will probably fail the same way I don't think it was a strength issue with Koji. He definitely has the upper body strength just showed little to no technique on the Salmon Ladder. If he practiced it (like he did after he failed the Cliffhanger) he would of beaten it easily the next time he got there. Look at Takeda. In SASUKE 18, he struggled mightily on the Salmon Ladder, thus why he failed. In SASUKE 21, he had no problems with it.
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Post by BLM on May 30, 2009 21:34:28 GMT -5
I agree Koji has about the same upper body streghth as Katsumi so they will probably fail the same way I don't think it was a strength issue with Koji. He definitely has the upper body strength just showed little to no technique on the Salmon Ladder. If he practiced it (like he did after he failed the Cliffhanger) he would of beaten it easily the next time he got there. Look at Takeda. In SASUKE 18, he struggled mightily on the Salmon Ladder, thus why he failed. In SASUKE 21, he had no problems with it. You might be right, the salmon ladder will probably wont be hard to most competetors like the spider walk in sasukes 11 and later
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Post by obakemono on May 30, 2009 21:46:36 GMT -5
Koji tried to power his way up the SL, and got a bit unlucky with one side dropping down two rungs. He probably would have made it if he'd have tried swinging before his strength ran out at the top.
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Post by BLM on May 30, 2009 22:16:58 GMT -5
Koji tried to power his way up the SL, and got a bit unlucky with one side dropping down two rungs. He probably would have made it if he'd have tried swinging before his strength ran out at the top. Yeah and if he completed the salmon ladder he would of made to the third stage may be failing the cliff hanger
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Post by Homeslice on May 30, 2009 23:11:40 GMT -5
I disagree. I don't think Yamada is past his prime. He's still in amazing shape and he's somehow faster than he used to be. He's just making dumb mistakes. Seems that way. But "dumb mistakes" is more of a Shingo thing. Shingo really needs to get his head back in the game for 23. Bunpei is old, though. Sadly. And yet, he made the Second Stage in 21. And Yamada is older than Bunpei. But he has had bad luck with injuries that keep him from competing in tournaments lately. As for Akiyama, I think he still has it - he looked good in 22 up until his nemesis, the Half Pipe Attack. If he can figure that out next time, I think he can at least get back into Stage 2.
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Post by VenusHeadTrap on May 30, 2009 23:32:23 GMT -5
Akiyama on the Jumping Spider and especially the wall was impressive in 22, such speed and confidence that he could possibly have on all of stage 1. The way the kids cheered for him right before his nemesis kind of made me feel like he was going to fall there right from his approach.
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Post by ouchthathurtstv on May 31, 2009 3:26:18 GMT -5
It's a shame about Shiratori. I disagree with Oti about Yamada though. I think he should quit while he still has his dignity because eventually he'll be failing the Log Grip if he keeps getting worse. I think Yamamoto's still alright IF HE CAN KEEP HIS BALANCE ON A PATHWAY. I think Akiyama's career is over. Nagano and Takeda however will remain all stars.
New all-stars to be: Tuji Ururashira Hitoshi Kanno Yoshiyuki Okayuma Daisuke Miyakazi The Nagasakis(If they return)
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Post by Oti on May 31, 2009 11:02:13 GMT -5
He has dignity? I still don't agree that Yamada has gotten that much worse. He seems to still be as strong and fast as he used to be. Shingo, too. I would love to see him in stage two and beyond. He looks like he's in amazing shape now and he's SO fast. He just... you know... doesn't pay attention.
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Post by bigblind168 on Jun 5, 2009 14:10:12 GMT -5
Shingo has ADD, definately
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Post by Oti on Jun 5, 2009 15:49:44 GMT -5
Yes! I made it past the Half-pipe Attack! All I have to do now is oh look, a butterfly!
AHHH!
And to anyone who thinks age is a factor, Nagano is getting up there in age and look at him go:
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Post by supernovamaniac on Jun 6, 2009 13:59:55 GMT -5
It's a shame about Shiratori. I disagree with Oti about Yamada though. I think he should quit while he still has his dignity because eventually he'll be failing the Log Grip if he keeps getting worse. I think Yamamoto's still alright IF HE CAN KEEP HIS BALANCE ON A PATHWAY. I think Akiyama's career is over. Nagano and Takeda however will remain all stars. New all-stars to be: Tuji Ururashira Hitoshi Kanno Yoshiyuki Okayuma Daisuke Miyakazi The Nagasakis(If they return) First of all, learn to spell right. Second, no. Yamada still has great potential. He might fail first stage constantly nowadays, but he still has the strength, speed, and mindset to complete stage 1 in the future. He's just making too much mistakes because he focuses too hard on the course, thus making it harder for himself. Yes, its true that Shiratori's getting old. But if you saw him in SASUKE 21, he didn't do all that bad. He's still in the game for now, I will say. Worsened visions didn't stop the all stars. Injuries didn't stop the all stars. I don't think that age will get in the way of the all-stars at the moment, and the near future.
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Post by BLM on Jun 6, 2009 14:30:06 GMT -5
To tell the truth all of the all stars are capable of going to the second stage it is just that they make dumb mistakes but all all stars are past the their prime execpt for Takeda and Yamamoto
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Post by ouchthathurtstv on Jun 7, 2009 5:48:33 GMT -5
What about nagano? The reigning champion who made it to the gliding ring?
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Post by Oti on Jun 7, 2009 6:16:21 GMT -5
He's not past his prime.
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Post by BLM on Jun 7, 2009 11:58:02 GMT -5
I think so his prime was in SASUKE 11-17 since then he has been going downhill except 21
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