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Post by SRW on Jun 21, 2011 5:21:05 GMT -5
Why would they make the 3rd stage and UCH even harder? You do realise if they did that more people would actually TURN OFF than tune in. People want to see the UCH get beat they want to see the rest of stage 3 and a stage 4 attempt sometime soon thats what people want to see. They do not want to keep watching a tournament where the 3rd Stage and UCH is just a innevitable procession every time.
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Post by ES-13 on Jun 21, 2011 10:38:45 GMT -5
I said make it harder in 29, not 27, but if there's going to be an increase in difficulty, it will probably be in 30. I just like to see everyone fail, I root for the obstacles, not the competitors, this is why 19 is my favorite torunament.
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Post by SRW on Jun 21, 2011 11:42:32 GMT -5
erm...........you must HATE 4 17 and 24 then
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Post by sextonmetropolis on Jun 21, 2011 13:05:19 GMT -5
I said make it harder in 29, not 27, but if there's going to be an increase in difficulty, it will probably be in 30. I just like to see everyone fail, I root for the obstacles, not the competitors, this is why 19 is my favorite torunament. I agree. It's not fun when someone destroys the course.
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Post by ES-13 on Jun 21, 2011 15:30:35 GMT -5
No, I only believe that when the time is right, someone must win, I was too vague, I love 4 and 17, but 24, kanzenseiha occured WAY too soon, 4 was right beause SASUKE had just been created, 17 was right because of the previous failures, 24 was NOT right not because Yuuji cleared, he's like a younger Nagano, but because there was only a seven torunament gap in between Kanzenseihas, I was expectin at least a twelve tournament gap before Kanzenseiha occured and after 23 aired, I fully expected the course's diffiuclty to increase quite a bit, but then someone said, Hey, let's make the course easier, which was probably why 24 only earned the rating of 11.something, if they had done what they did in 13 and increase the difficulty of Stage 3 as well, 24 would have earned better ratings, Shin-SASUKE would still be going, and we might already be in 28 by now. 27 should be a good tournament, if SASUKE's ratings weren't like my mother, I'd say we would be in the next great era of SASUKE.
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Post by UnrealCanine on Jun 21, 2011 17:09:04 GMT -5
The stage 3 revampsin pre-SS happened when stage 3 was too 'easy'
Sasuke 8-50% success rate S12 - 30% s13 - 20% (almost 40%)
Besides, they already had a 3-ob combo. What more did you want?
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Post by TCM on Jun 21, 2011 17:13:51 GMT -5
You know you've been here too long when you see a user that likes 2 hour broadcasts like 19.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 19:16:30 GMT -5
19 was cool in it's feeling. 19 brought a feeling of hopelessness to the tournament that I actually kind of liked, and pumped me up for 20. However, I wouldn't want to have another one of those lol.
As for the 3rd stage, having an entire tournament end because of one obstacle, especially an obstacle as cheap as the UCH is stupid. The last 2 tournaments have sucked because of this obstacle. Once it gets beating, if that happens, I really hope M9 will get rid of it.
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Post by SuperTiger on Jun 21, 2011 19:56:17 GMT -5
19 was cool in it's feeling. 19 brought a feeling of hopelessness to the tournament that I actually kind of liked, and pumped me up for 20. However, I wouldn't want to have another one of those lol. As for the 3rd stage, having an entire tournament end because of one obstacle, especially an obstacle as cheap as the UCH is stupid. The last 2 tournaments have sucked because of this obstacle. Once it gets beating, if that happens, I really hope M9 will get rid of it. Your treating the UCH like the Shin Cliff Hanger. You act like it's the only obstacle in the stage. Unlike Shin-Sasuke, there are actually other obstacles that have resulted in the demise of competitors in the stage. Nobody failed any of the obstacles before the SCH, until the tournament it was finally conquered. I don't see your logic with calling the UCH cheap. It's going to be no different than the SCH. Give it a couple tourneys and people will have it mastered. Judging from the looks of the rest of the stage, it's the least of their worries anyway. As for your logic as to the reason the last tourneys sucked, they didn't suck because of the UCH, they sucked because the first stage was nothing short of disappointing, in both 25 and 26.
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Post by ES-13 on Jun 21, 2011 20:16:58 GMT -5
Yup, the first stage was too wimpy-looking, 25, for the returning obstacles and the Bridge Jump, 26, Hazard and Giant Swing.
I predict that the Hazard Swing will be removed and the Giant Swing will get a GIGANTIC gap if it stays.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 20:21:45 GMT -5
19 was cool in it's feeling. 19 brought a feeling of hopelessness to the tournament that I actually kind of liked, and pumped me up for 20. However, I wouldn't want to have another one of those lol. As for the 3rd stage, having an entire tournament end because of one obstacle, especially an obstacle as cheap as the UCH is stupid. The last 2 tournaments have sucked because of this obstacle. Once it gets beating, if that happens, I really hope M9 will get rid of it. Your treating the UCH like the Shin Cliff Hanger. You act like it's the only obstacle in the stage. Unlike Shin-Sasuke, there are actually other obstacles that have resulted in the demise of competitors in the stage. Nobody failed any of the obstacles before the SCH, until the tournament it was finally conquered. I don't see your logic with calling the UCH cheap. It's going to be no different than the SCH. Give it a couple tourneys and people will have it mastered. Judging from the looks of the rest of the stage, it's the least of their worries anyway. As for your logic as to the reason the last tourneys sucked, they didn't suck because of the UCH, they sucked because the first stage was nothing short of disappointing, in both 25 and 26. I think comparing the SCH to the UCH is wrong. The UCH has DOUBLE the ledges and 2X the jumps as the SCH. The obstacle is just too hard and unoriginal, and shows that Sasuke has indeed jumped the shark.
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Post by SuperTiger on Jun 21, 2011 20:27:10 GMT -5
Your treating the UCH like the Shin Cliff Hanger. You act like it's the only obstacle in the stage. Unlike Shin-Sasuke, there are actually other obstacles that have resulted in the demise of competitors in the stage. Nobody failed any of the obstacles before the SCH, until the tournament it was finally conquered. I don't see your logic with calling the UCH cheap. It's going to be no different than the SCH. Give it a couple tourneys and people will have it mastered. Judging from the looks of the rest of the stage, it's the least of their worries anyway. As for your logic as to the reason the last tourneys sucked, they didn't suck because of the UCH, they sucked because the first stage was nothing short of disappointing, in both 25 and 26. I think comparing the SCH to the UCH is wrong. The UCH has DOUBLE the ledges and 2X the jumps as the SCH. The obstacle is just too hard and unoriginal, and shows that Sasuke has indeed jumped the shark. The comparison is only appropriate simply b/c the scenario is no different from the SCH. Is it hard? Yes, no doubt about it, but it can't be impossible. It may be ten times harder than the SCH, but that's beside the point. It's still going to be beaten. I wouldn't be shocked if it gets beat this tournament. I can tell competitors like Lee, and Okuyama are going to be more than prepared for it this time around. Sasuke hasn't jumped the shark. Granted I don't agree with a lot of their recent decisions, but the producers aren't stupid. Their ratings may not be stellar like they used to, but I think your making the UCH to be worse than it really is.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 20:59:21 GMT -5
I'm sure the UCH will get beaten. I just think it's a cheap and too difficult obstacle.
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Post by SuperTiger on Jun 21, 2011 21:01:44 GMT -5
I'm sure the UCH will get beaten. I just think it's a cheap and too difficult obstacle. Can you please explain to me how it's cheap? It's not like the UCH is playing the role of a 5th grader stealing lunch money from 1st grade competitors.
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Post by RobbyMac on Jun 21, 2011 21:14:13 GMT -5
If they put a double SCH there, the 3rd stage probably would have already been beaten (depending on the flying bar). The 3rd stage isn't supposed to be easy, keep it. It'll be beaten eventually.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 21:21:26 GMT -5
I'm sure the UCH will get beaten. I just think it's a cheap and too difficult obstacle. Can you please explain to me how it's cheap? It's not like the UCH is playing the role of a 5th grader stealing lunch money from 1st grade competitors. It isn't clever, it isn't new, it's the same obstacle weve seen for 23 tournaments, and all they did to make it harder, was add more ledges... I like challenge, but I like CLEVER challenge, and NEW challenges. This is neither.
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Post by SuperTiger on Jun 21, 2011 21:26:25 GMT -5
Can you please explain to me how it's cheap? It's not like the UCH is playing the role of a 5th grader stealing lunch money from 1st grade competitors. It isn't clever, it isn't new, it's the same obstacle weve seen for 23 tournaments, and all they did to make it harder, was add more ledges... I like challenge, but I like CLEVER challenge, and NEW challenges. This is neither. JP, you can't just get rid of the Cliff Hanger. The stage is teeming with new challenges. IMO UCH is more clever than other options they had. It's something nobody expected. Whenever you come up with something no one ever even dreamed of, I think your coming up with pretty clever ideas. Just because something isn't totally new or simple doesn't make it cheap.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 21:37:19 GMT -5
It isn't clever, it isn't new, it's the same obstacle weve seen for 23 tournaments, and all they did to make it harder, was add more ledges... I like challenge, but I like CLEVER challenge, and NEW challenges. This is neither. JP, you can't just get rid of the Cliff Hanger. The stage is teeming with new challenges. IMO UCH is more clever than other options they had. It's something nobody expected. Whenever you come up with something no one ever even dreamed of, I think your coming up with pretty clever ideas. Just because something isn't totally new or simple doesn't make it cheap. There's a lot of obstacles they've gotten rid of, so I don't see why they wouldn't get rid of the Cliff hanger... Users on this forum created dynamic huge cliff hangers long before the UCH. It's only surprising because M9 would do that. But we can agree to disagree. Now that it's been in 2 tournaments, I think it should stay until beaten, but than removed.
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Post by jfeathe on Jun 21, 2011 21:46:13 GMT -5
JP, you can't just get rid of the Cliff Hanger. The stage is teeming with new challenges. IMO UCH is more clever than other options they had. It's something nobody expected. Whenever you come up with something no one ever even dreamed of, I think your coming up with pretty clever ideas. Just because something isn't totally new or simple doesn't make it cheap. There's a lot of obstacles they've gotten rid of, so I don't see why they wouldn't get rid of the Cliff hanger... Users on this forum created dynamic huge cliff hangers long before the UCH. It's only surprising because M9 would do that. But we can agree to disagree. Now that it's been in 2 tournaments, I think it should stay until beaten, but than removed. Of course nothing's set in stone, but come on, they HAVE to have a Cliff Hanger! It's one of the most iconic obstacles and it's the main event of the third stage. The Ultimate Cliff Hanger definitely pushes what is rational or even possible (I originally had the opinion that it was completely impossible and unfair), but they didn't want what happened with the Shin Cliff Hanger which was that it looked menacing but eventually had a HIGHER rate of clears at the end of its life than the 9-17 Cliff Hanger had.
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Post by TCM on Jun 21, 2011 21:53:19 GMT -5
JP, you can't just get rid of the Cliff Hanger. The stage is teeming with new challenges. IMO UCH is more clever than other options they had. It's something nobody expected. Whenever you come up with something no one ever even dreamed of, I think your coming up with pretty clever ideas. Just because something isn't totally new or simple doesn't make it cheap. There's a lot of obstacles they've gotten rid of, so I don't see why they wouldn't get rid of the Cliff hanger... Users on this forum created dynamic huge cliff hangers long before the UCH. It's only surprising because M9 would do that. 1. And how many of those would actually work/be logical for the course? Many fan obstacles are more unrealistic than anything M9 could ever think about using. 2. M9 got rid of the Wall Lifting for one tournament, realized how stupid that was and brought it back. Some things you just shouldn't remove, Wall Lifting and Cliffhanger are a couple of those.
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