your thought on their last every stage 3 runs

[shunsukenumber98]

what are you guys thoughts on these competitors last ever stage 3 runs? I choose stage 3 as i believe that reaching stage 3 over and over for a certain competitor kinds of cements you as a top player, and to go from always reaching the 3rd stage to reaching it for a final time might make that run somewhat memorable for that competitor. So, what are you guys thought on the list below making the third stage for a final time? here’s the list:

Nagano in 27
Takeda in 24
Shingo in 23
Yamada in 10
Akiyama in 12
Bunpei in 17
Shunsuke in 33
Asa in 33
Kanno in 31
Takahashi in 31
Kane in 8
Koji yamada in 16
Hashimoto in 27
Asaoka in 14
Okuyama in 27
Iketani in 16
Nakata in 17
Kobayashi in 14
Ishikawa Terukazu in 27
Shinji in 14
Anastase Ragivaru in 34
Jorden in 16
Levi in 23
Lee En Chi in 30
David Campbell in 27
Brian Orosco in 26

Mentioning these guys as the competition with their last every third stage run is very much their last 3rd stage run ever, with possibly no hope of ever making it back to stage 3. Also, these guys have impact on the show, although, with varying degrees. Answer away!

[zoran]

Gonna do just a few sorry there are a lot here.

Nagano in 27 - Was the best he could have done given he likely never trained the UCH that much being focused on stage 1 and 2 training. I think if he did better in 26 (like even reaching the UCH) he could have more extensively trained for it for 27 and even cleared as I believe there is now lost footage of him beating the transition he failed on David Campbell's course (source for this is old discussion on this forum in the Sasuke 27 thread). I think he could have made it back in 28 if he used the right technique on the wall and had good luck with the swap salmon ladder. Maybe 30 as well again with some luck on the swap and speed on the backstream (which I assume he would good at given his job is water based). 32 as well if he got the wall in 1 shot and had no issues on the kudari ladder. Tbh in 27 I know it's kinda petty but I do like that he did better than Okuyama who was showing up the all stars at the time.

Takeda in 24 - Mental pressure from being the last all star standing and poor technique on the cliffhanger and hang climb cost him. Really sad fail given how much he struggled. Probably his last chance on stage 3 given how much the salmon ladder was trouble for him. That said I did see speculation he could have cleared as far as 36.

Shingo in 23 - If his shoulder was fine he would have likely failed the shin given he would have been training a lot more for stage 1 and 2 and his shoulder problems and prior issues with the cliffhanger. That said if he did make it to the shin, he would be a lot more confident training it for 24 and come that tournament he doesn't make any stage 1 mistakes and beats the more time lenient stage 2 I could see him beating the shin and probably making it to the spider flip, from there he probably would fail like Takeda did in 23 or how he did in 24 being unable to pull himself up. I'd say he could have made stage 3 in 24, 25 if he didn't rush the balance tank, 27, 28 and at a push 30. Maybe even 33 and 34 or 40 if he had greater success on stage 1, he could have more confidently trained for stage 2.

Yamada in 10 - The exhaustion from the upgraded stage 3 as well as the pressure got to him. I'd say if the course was the same as 5-8 he would have learned from his mistake in 6 and cleared. I think he could have made stage 3 in 11, 12 (potentially even clearing in both), 13 and 14. The metal spin, harder stage 1's or the harsh time limit would stop him from reaching it from 15-23. I think 24 would be his last chance to make stage 3 but he would need a lot of luck and training, from what I heard Yamada had been training the salmon ladder at muscle park and the time limit in 24 is doable for him. It would be the slightly upgraded metal spin which would be his biggest test.

Akiyama in 12 - Very impressive run given how down to the wire his performance in 11 was. I figured the body prop would be his limit due to his weaker lower body strength. There is even a chance he could have beaten the pipe slider as well. I think he could have made stage 3 in 13 and 14 as well but from there the metal spin or the time limit would block him from beating stage 2, then the brutal shin sasuke stage 1 and ageing would end his chances.

Bunpei in 17 - Slickness on the body prop cost him a potential clear given he would have built a replica of the pipe slider on his course and would have been practicing the jump, then the brutality of shin sasuke stage 1, ageing and chronic injury ended his chances and career.

Nagasaki in 33 - Glitched flying bar cost him. Then his career completely nose dived. What's funny is before 34, the spider walk and drop were completely jokes that no one failed, then when he failed suddenly they became a problem. Does still have the potential to make stage 3 again with a bit of luck and training.

Asa - Same as above then a nasty injury and fatherhood duties caused him to retire.

Kanno in 31 - Legendary performance, did the absolute best he could. Then he began struggling on stage 1. I think he still does have the potential to make stage 3 again.

Nakata in 17 - His wrist injury ended his sasuke career.

Ishikawa in 27 - Dude completely surpassed expectations in almost every tournament he competed in. His fail was also pretty funny. Probably his last chance to make stage 3.

Kobayashi in 14 - Incredible performance especially as the first to take the revamped stage on. From there bad luck and lack of interest ended his career. Potentially could have made stage 3 in 17 if he competed and had better luck on the metal spin.

Levi in 23 - Rushed the transition, I do think he could have beat the obstacle as he would been training extensively for it, with his background in parkour, I could see him beating stage 3 and potentially kanzening depending on his rope climbing skills. He may have also had a chance to make stage 3 in 24 if he was invited, 25 if he had better luck on the slider drop and on the DSL. If he didn't injure himself before 26, maybe even in it as well as in 27.

Brian Orosco in 26 - His weight worked completely against him, maybe he could have gone a little further but the doorknob grasper was upgraded. If he did better in bootcamp in 27 and lost a little bit of weight, he more than likely could have made it back to stage 3 and potentially as the flying bar is less grip intensive, could have made the cliffhanger where I'd say his best would be similar to Nagano's fail. What's interesting too is that Orosco appeared to like Sasuke a lot more than ANW. If he did particularly well and Inui liked him, maybe he could have taken drews spot and did well as a mainstay in modern Sasuke.

[dakohosu]

Mar 9, 2024 9:56:14 GMT -5 zoran said:

Just gonna quote this one as don't have enough time to do my own and you covered a lot of what I was going to say anyway.

Few points I'd add:

- I think Takeda could've made Stage 3 a few more times had he not taken time away from Sasuke, because you could REALLY see the difference between, say 21-24 and 28-31, across basically any physical measure. He obviously was gunning for a promotion in his regiment which meant limited time to train as well as not wanting to train to avoid potential injury, I don't think age was as much of a factor as people say it was given that he cleared 38's Stage 1 with a pretty fast time after only a few months of training from zero after another relapse at 45 years old. Re the Salmon Ladder, if he trained it more he could clear any version bar maybe the Swap because he's always been rubbish at swinging obstacles (don't forget the Nobori/Kudari and Double variants in all of his attempts he failed right at the very end), and if he had kept at it without the break he would've been able to uphold his consistency and speed that he managed prior, and hence reach Stage 3.

- I think Bunpei may have been able to reach Stage 3 in 21 had he not had his freak accident on the Downhill Jump. He'd built a Salmon Ladder on his course, and while yes he was doing the slower swinging technique, the time limit was lenient enough that this wouldn't have cost him too much. He was very clearly waning in stamina, sure, as he was exhausted after Stage 1, but Stage 2 was nowhere near as long so I don't think that would've been an issue. Had he made Stage 3 in 21, how do you think he would've done? I honestly have no idea, because he has impeccable technique and always did well on Stage 3 but by this point was riddled by injuries.

- I never understood Shunsuke's issues with the Spider Drop tbh. He had zero issue with it in several tournaments, 34 was clearly a freak accident, then in 35 and 40 he compensates for that fail in 34 by going really slowly on the obstacle, yet still fails the drop part, even though he passed it multiple times prior. Especially 35 just looked like he gave up halfway and slipped into the water (he didn't obviously but it looked like that was what happened lol). Re his chances of making it back to Stage 3, right now no way because he doesn't train. My biggest concern generally is Stage 2's time limit, because he's one of the bigger competitors and goes pretty slow throughout the course. Don't forget he barely cleared even 32-33's Stage 2 which had much more lenient time limits, and this was back when he trained a lot more and didn't have a family or full-time job not involving athletics.

- I think Ishikawa could've probably made Stage 3 again if he'd competed in 31 or beyond. I watched his 30 Stage 2 run and most of the time wasted which caused him to time out was spent on the Swap Salmon Ladder which got dropped after 30, and the standard variants he's not had much issue on except for 26. Not to mention that I believe he's still an athletic performer so would've still had it in him to do well even in his late 30s and 40s. He was always pretty consistent on Stage 1 as well, even the brutally hard Shin-Sasuke versions.

- I disagree that Levi had any shot at Kanzen. Final Stage, maybe, though I could definitely see him failing the Hang Climbing or gassing out on the Spider Flip before the jump. Parkour is good for dynamic movements like laches and grabs etc., and obvs lower body stuff, but doesn't really help with upper body endurance, as seen by competitors like Brian Orosco who was also a pro parkourist but really struggled on Stage 3, as well as Jun Sato despite him also training heavily for Sasuke specifically. If he did make the Final, I'm incredibly doubtful he would be able to beat it, even come close, given that Nagano spent years rope climbing and still failed that Final. I don't think Levi trained much rope climbing, especially not a harder bungee version, and as mentioned I really don't think he'd have the upper body endurance to go all the way in the allotted time. He'd be advantaged on the Heavenly Ladder due to his height meaning his strides don't have to be as large, but I'd 100% see him really slowing down on the rope due to fatigue setting in quickly.

[xelA197]

How you was able to watch Ishikawa Stage 2 run in 30?

[dakohosu]

Mar 9, 2024 12:51:18 GMT -5 xelA197 said:

How you was able to watch Ishikawa Stage 2 run in 30?

I can’t say on here, against the rules as revealing anything on public forums increases risk of it getting discovered and taken down. I will message you later.