what will it take for their runs to be shown in full

[shunsukenumber98]

I'll explain this thread as of sasuke 40 to not spoil anything for sasuke 41. 

But basically, what will it take for some of these competitors to have their runs shown in full? We know that these competitors have been constantly digested time and time again so what will they have to do in their runs or what must happen  for their runs to finally be seen in full? Here is my list: 

-shunsuke, a obvious pick as a full run hasn't been shown for him since sasuke 35
-Kanno, similar to shunsuke but to a somewhat lesser extent 
-Tada for his stage 1 and 2 runs 
-Araki for his stage 1,2 and 3 runs 
-Keitaro for his stage 1 and 2 runs 
-Sato for his stage 1,2 and 3 runs 
-Mutoe for his stage 1,2 and 3 runs 
-suzuki for his stage 1,2 and 3 runs 
-Yoshi for his stage 2 run as we seen in sasuke 40 
-Morimoto for his stage 2 run as we seen in sasuke 40 
-the internationals as we seen in sasuke 40 

This is the list I have, feel free to add your own pics as well 

[dakohosu]

Low numbers of clears across Stages 1 and 2 would do it.

Shunsuke was shown in full because 35 only had 8 clears on Stage 1, whereas the more recent tournaments have had like 15+ at the very least, and compared to pre-38, those tournaments are WAY more celebrity focussed which results in the above competitors serving as collateral damage as they get less screen time allocated to them, and hence digested. A harder Stage 1 means fewer competitors making it farther into the course, overall less content to fit into the time allocation for Stage 1, and hence more runs shown in full. It would also look far too odd to have sub-10 clears and have a load of them get digested (I know, 32 has entered the room, but still, lol).

Apart from that, a competitor giving an abnormally strong or poor run would likely get them to be shown in full, because most of these guys get digested as their results are pretty samey. Keitaro and Tada get digested on Stages 1 and 2 because they frequently clear those stages, so to show them in full would just be delaying the inevitable as far as suspense is concerned. If there was a diversion from expectation/the norm then might be different.

i.e. I'm sure if Kanno ends up clearing at some point, he'll be shown in full, given that he hasn't done so in like 9 years, or if someone like or Yoshi fail Stage 1 because of their impeccable clear records. Similar story with, say, Yusuke failing Stage 2. Especially with him being the final runner, they wouldn't finish the stage on a digested fail.

Suzuki and Mutou I can't see getting shown in full any time soon, mainly because they're not consistent/well established enough for them failing Stage 1 to be a massive shock worthy of being shown in full, and they tend to, at best, fail early on Stage 3. Their performances kind of tend to blend into the background hence why they get the treatment they do. That's also why Araki probably got cut in 39, because his track record was kind of okay until then, so showing him fail the Warped Wall wouldn't have been a huge show-worthy shock that would send fans into disarray. Shunsuke clearing in 40 yet still being digested was a bit ridiculous, as it followed four straight Stage 1 fails, but we obviously know the story with him and TBS' dislike of his management company, and with him being an older guard competitor, TBS probably didn't see him as marketable anyway.

Getting the fastest time on Stage 1 also seems to be a golden ticket to getting shown in full, as shown by Kajihara; yes, he is a celebrity, but he still has been digested on both Stages 2 and 3, so.

[ItalianNinja08]

Feb 28, 2024 5:13:43 GMT -5 dakohosu said:

Getting the fastest time on Stage 1 also seems to be a golden ticket to getting shown in full, as shown by Kajihara; yes, he is a celebrity, but he still has been digested on both Stages 2 and 3, so.

Jun in 33 and Drew in 34 were both digested in Stage 1 despite making the fastest time; 33's editing was absolutely atrocious, digesting 3 of the 5 Stage 2 clears only to focus on plenty of Salmon Ladder fails and Reverse Conveyor's timeouts is insanely baffling for me.

[dakohosu]

Feb 28, 2024 9:11:22 GMT -5 ItalianNinja08 said:

Feb 28, 2024 5:13:43 GMT -5 dakohosu said:

Getting the fastest time on Stage 1 also seems to be a golden ticket to getting shown in full, as shown by Kajihara; yes, he is a celebrity, but he still has been digested on both Stages 2 and 3, so.

Jun in 33 and Drew in 34 were both digested in Stage 1 despite making the fastest time; 33's editing was absolutely atrocious, digesting 3 of the 5 Stage 2 clears only to focus on plenty of Salmon Ladder fails and Reverse Conveyor's timeouts is insanely baffling for me.

Yeah granted that was because neither Jun or Drew were particularly popular with TBS. Jun because of his alleged attitude back then and TBS not wanting to promote parkour as a dangerous sport, and Drew for being a foreigner as well as his bad relationship with Inui. Similar story to Shunsuke getting digested, because of his management company’s quarrels with TBS. They’ve seemingly changed their sentiment towards Jun as of recent though, I presume due to him becoming a member of the MS, though parkour is still a dangerous sport, lol……

Re Stage 2, the reason was that most of those Salmon Ladder fails were from celebrities like Takeru and ABC-Z that they had to show in full for marketing and ratings purposes.

So yeah, I get it, I don’t like it at all as a hardcore Sasuke fan, but I get it, unfortunately.

[Homeslice]

It's another reason I wish Ninja Warrior would have been allowed to continue in America even after the second death of G4 (not sure what network would pick it up now). At least in some of its tournaments, runs that apparently weren't seen on SASUKE were shown in full on G4's Ninja Warrior (like Kanno in 26 and Kongu in 27).

[ItalianNinja08]

Imagine if one between Tada and Keitaro will kanzen, TBS will be forced to show their runs in full with also fluff pieces, reducing in the process the screen time for the celebs. I feel bad for Inui if this really happens.

[katoshiho]

Well, make a 6 hours version then they will show full.
However, if 6 hours means 30+ clears for Stage 1, 20+ clears for Stage 2, they still have possibly to get digest.
And we can spoil 41 after March? I think we need to make a time that we can spoil.

[loboticialtree]

Feb 28, 2024 22:17:44 GMT -5 katoshiho said:

Well, make a 6 hours version then they will show full.
However, if 6 hours means 30+ clears for Stage 1, 20+ clears for Stage 2, they still have possibly to get digest.
And we can spoil 41 after March? I think we need to make a time that we can spoil.

Is a 6 hour broadcast even possible? Not to say it isn't but I am quite unsure that TBS would even allocate that much of a timeslot for SASUKE. 

[dakohosu]

Feb 29, 2024 7:24:53 GMT -5 loboticialtree said:

Feb 28, 2024 22:17:44 GMT -5 katoshiho said:

Well, make a 6 hours version then they will show full.
However, if 6 hours means 30+ clears for Stage 1, 20+ clears for Stage 2, they still have possibly to get digest.
And we can spoil 41 after March? I think we need to make a time that we can spoil.

Is a 6 hour broadcast even possible? Not to say it isn't but I am quite unsure that TBS would even allocate that much of a timeslot for SASUKE. 

Even if they did, that would mean Stage 1 is now 4.5 hours as opposed to 3.5, with the same competitors still getting digested while more celebrity runs are drawn out in the edit, Stage 2 is still 20 minutes, and Stage 3-4 would be the same one or so hour. Be careful what you wish for lol……

But yeah 6 hour broadcast is really unlikely to happen. 24 got a record 5.5 hour broadcast but that was years ago. It’s mostly been 4-5 hours recently.