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Post by shunsukenumber98 on Jan 30, 2024 21:55:31 GMT -5
Here is how I would place each tournaments number from 98-100 that is according to me. Not doing 1-3 as the numbers aren’t too fleshed out yet. Here are my numbers and do let me know any questions you guys have:
Sk 4: 98-Shingo 99-Omori 100-Yamada
Sk 5: 98-Travis 99-Asaoka 100-Yamada
Sk 6: 98-Yamada 99-Shingo 100-Akiyama
Sk 7: 98-Kane 99-Akiyama 100-Yamada
Sk 8: 98-Kuboyoki 99-Shingo 100-Yamada
SK 9: 98-Shingo 99-Takeda 100: Yamada
Sk 10: 98-Takeda 99-Nagano 100-Yamada
Sk 11: 98-Nakata 99-Ikatani 100-Yamada
Sk 12: 98-Shingo 99-Kobayashi 100-nagano
Sk 13: 98-Takeda 99-Bunpei 100-Nagano
Sk 14: 98-Takeda 99-Bunpei 100-Nagano
Sk 15: 98-Takeda 99-Kobayashi 100-Nagano
Sk 16: 98-Bunpei 99-Takeda 100-Nagano
Sk 17: 98-Koji Yamada 99-Bunpei 100-Nagano
Sk 18: 98-Takeda 99-Shunsuke 100-Nagano
Sk 19: 98-Kenji 99-Shunsuke 100-Nagano
Sk 20: 98-Wasami 99-Takeda 100-Nagano
Sk 21: 98-Okuyama 99-Levi 100-Nagano
Sk 22: 98-Miyazaki 99-Takeda 100-Nagano
Sk 23: 98-Kanno 99-Yuji 100-Nagano
Sk 24: 98-Kenji 99-Kanno 100-Nagano
Sk 25: 98-Okuyama 99-Hashimoto 100-Yuji
Sk 26: 98-Hashimoto 99-Lee En Chi 100-Yuji
Sk 27: 98-Okuyama 99-Lee En Chi 100-Yuji
Sk 28: 98-Hashimoto 99-Ryo 100-Yuji
Sk 29: 98-Asa 99-Kanno 100-Yuji
Sk 30: 98-Kanno 99-Morimoto 100-Yuji
Sk 31: 98-Shinya 99-Tomohiro 100-Ryo
Sk 32: 98-Tomohiro 99-Kanno 100-Nagano (if Nagano retires)| 98-Asa 99-Kanno 100-Tomohiro (if Nagano doesn't retire)
Sk 33: 98-Sato 99-DD 100-Yusuke
Sk 34: 98-Shunsuke 99-DD 100-Yusuke
Sk 35: 98-Tomo 99-DD 100-Yusuke
Sk 36: 98-Tomo 99-DD 100-Yusuke
Sk 37: 98-Yuji 99-Ryo 100-Yusuke
Sk 38: 98-Yuji 99-Tada 100-Yusuke
Sk 39: 98-Yuji 99-Tada 100-Yusuke
Sk 40: 98-Ryo 99-Tada 100-Yusuke
Sk 41: 98-Tada 99-Yoshi 100-Yusuke
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Post by katoshiho on Jan 31, 2024 1:35:48 GMT -5
I don't think Kuboki reserve 98 at all, he almost came out from no where for his steady performance.
There should be some better choice.
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Post by katoshiho on Jan 31, 2024 1:41:00 GMT -5
With your opinion, then in SASUKE 42, 100 will be Morimoto Yusuke as we knows,
98 will be Keitaro,
and 99 will be Miyaoka as a dark horse.
I prefer that Miyaoka get 95, and maybe Yuuji get 99.
Tada will be 96 and Yoshiyuki at 97.
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Post by shunsukenumber98 on Jan 31, 2024 2:12:02 GMT -5
With your opinion, then in SASUKE 42, 100 will be Morimoto Yusuke as we knows,
98 will be Keitaro,
and 99 will be Miyaoka as a dark horse.
I prefer that Miyaoka get 95, and maybe Yuuji get 99.
Tada will be 96 and Yoshiyuki at 97.
I would probably put miaoka at 98 as keitaro had more consistency as him. And of course yusuke will be at 100. |
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Post by shunsukenumber98 on Jan 31, 2024 3:29:24 GMT -5
I don't think Kuboki reserve 98 at all, he almost came out from no where for his steady performance. There should be some better choice. Can't think of who else would have been a better choice..., the closest that would come to mind is Kane, and that dude fell on the second stage. |
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Post by brz0ny on Jan 31, 2024 5:11:00 GMT -5
With your opinion, then in SASUKE 42, 100 will be Morimoto Yusuke as we knows,
98 will be Keitaro,
and 99 will be Miyaoka as a dark horse.
I prefer that Miyaoka get 95, and maybe Yuuji get 99.
Tada will be 96 and Yoshiyuki at 97.
No way he gets #99 so soon |
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Post by dakohosu on Jan 31, 2024 5:28:08 GMT -5
You've basically just put the top 3 performers in the prior tournament as #98-100 for the most part, which isn't really how it works. Bear in mind, for the sake of ratings, that competitors like All-Stars and former champions and Finalists were seen as better fits to wear the higher numbers due to their legacy, as well as the amount of pressure wearing #98-99 carries that certain competitors might not want. It's never as simple as "x came in 3rd place so deserves #98 for the next tournament". Few comments:
- Asaoka didn't compete in 13
- No way would they give Nakata #98 after a Stage 2 timeout, nor would they give Kuboki #98 after a breakout performance, as those numbers were reserved for All-Stars for ratings. I'm personally of the opinion that secondary players back then only deserved #98-99 if they give a really "wow" performance, like Bunpei did in 12, and arguably he only got #99 because Asaoka and Yamada didn't compete in 13.
- 18 was a lottery hence why we got the numbers we did
- 25 was also a lottery with the three champions wearing #98-100
- 28 was the supposed retirement for the All-Stars, which is why they wore #96-100
- Yuuji infamously doesn't like wearing #100 due to pressure. Rewatch his performance in 26 for an idea of what I mean.
- Shinya in 31 arguably doesn't deserve #98 given that he did come in 3rd place, but this followed a bunch of early Stage 1 fails including a first obstacle fail in his debut. It's worth considering competitors' prior track records rather than just their performance in the last tournament.
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Post by shunsukenumber98 on Jan 31, 2024 9:00:50 GMT -5
You've basically just put the top 3 performers in the prior tournament as #98-100 for the most part, which isn't really how it works. Bear in mind, for the sake of ratings, that competitors like All-Stars and former champions and Finalists were seen as better fits to wear the higher numbers due to their legacy, as well as the amount of pressure wearing #98-99 carries that certain competitors might not want. It's never as simple as "x came in 3rd place so deserves #98 for the next tournament". Few comments: - Asaoka didn't compete in 13 - No way would they give Nakata #98 after a Stage 2 timeout, nor would they give Kuboki #98 after a breakout performance, as those numbers were reserved for All-Stars for ratings. I'm personally of the opinion that secondary players back then only deserved #98-99 if they give a really "wow" performance, like Bunpei did in 12, and arguably he only got #99 because Asaoka and Yamada didn't compete in 13. - 18 was a lottery hence why we got the numbers we did - 25 was also a lottery with the three champions wearing #98-100 - 28 was the supposed retirement for the All-Stars, which is why they wore #96-100 - Yuuji infamously doesn't like wearing #100 due to pressure. Rewatch his performance in 26 for an idea of what I mean. - Shinya in 31 arguably doesn't deserve #98 given that he did come in 3rd place, but this followed a bunch of early Stage 1 fails including a first obstacle fail in his debut. It's worth considering competitors' prior track records rather than just their performance in the last tournament. Here my moments to your coments: -forgot about the detail that Asaoka didn't compete in 13, replaced him with takeda as he was a better fit -keep in mind this is based upon my own opinion and not on the opinion of the directors whatsoever. Imagine iff it were me who decided the numbers for each tournament. -TBH, the numbering system was a bit strange to say the least most of the time during the show. For example, why on earth was Tomohiro still being 99 in 37 even though he had a pretty trash performance on stage 3 in 36. And also, I often get tired of seeing the same people getting the same number over and over again, no hate to those competitors but I would like to see someone else run with 99 other than Tomohiro who would most likely fiddle on the cliffhanger again. -28 numbering system could have been handled better, but the tournament was quite bad so.... -i also find that the show does somewhat dirty to the competitors who did well in previous tournaments. An example is Tada in sasuke 40, they did their LMS dirty. If it were me, more credit should really be given to them. -But hey, this is really my opinion after all, looking back at the number i would have given, i find myself questioning why i put some competitors and not others lol, people disagree including myself haha -as for Nakata wearing 98 in Sk 9, I would have placed him with Jordan in 98 and Kane in 99, but both didn't compete so it's like that -as for Yuji, come on, he won twice -maybe ill update the list, but this is where I stand at the moment |
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Post by dakohosu on Jan 31, 2024 12:11:26 GMT -5
Here my moments to your coments: -forgot about the detail that Asaoka didn't compete in 13, replaced him with takeda as he was a better fit -keep in mind this is based upon my own opinion and not on the opinion of the directors whatsoever. Imagine iff it were me who decided the numbers for each tournament. -TBH, the numbering system was a bit strange to say the least most of the time during the show. For example, why on earth was Tomohiro still being 99 in 37 even though he had a pretty trash performance on stage 3 in 36. And also, I often get tired of seeing the same people getting the same number over and over again, no hate to those competitors but I would like to see someone else run with 99 other than Tomohiro who would most likely fiddle on the cliffhanger again. -28 numbering system could have been handled better, but the tournament was quite bad so.... -i also find that the show does somewhat dirty to the competitors who did well in previous tournaments. An example is Tada in sasuke 40, they did their LMS dirty. If it were me, more credit should really be given to them. -But hey, this is really my opinion after all, looking back at the number i would have given, i find myself questioning why i put some competitors and not others lol, people disagree including myself haha -as for Nakata wearing 98 in Sk 9, I would have placed him with Jordan in 98 and Kane in 99, but both didn't compete so it's like that -as for Yuji, come on, he won twice -maybe ill update the list, but this is where I stand at the moment Yep all fair enough, my comments were more on the side of realism. If I knew that the top 10 competitors from a given tournament would get #91-100 in the next, I wouldn't be as excited or hyped to find out the running order when it's released, lol. Numbering systems have always been super inconsistent. In the early tournaments it was typically the All-Stars at #97-100, almost randomising everyone else. Shin-Sasuke and RISING etc. started to become a bit more consistent but we still had tournaments like 19 and 22 where the 90s were full of randos. Recently though they've been spreading the stronger competitors more evenly throughout the field, which I like because it means we're never too far from a competitor we want to see. Even if a particular celebrity run is painful to watch, it's quite likely they'll be bookended by two stronger competitors, which makes their runs more bearable and a glorified coffee break at worst. I like the idea of having competitors like Jun in the 70s and the Black Tigers in the 40s; otherwise it's going to be 1.5-2 hours at this point of early fails from comedians and randos before someone of note runs. On the 28 point, I simply justified why 96-100 were given to the All-Stars, but apart from that the numbers made no sense. The field was also incredibly weak, with Kong and Okuyama not being invited, yet a bunch of randos managed to get on the show. I still think 96-100 made sense given that that was meant to be their last tournament. On the Tada and Yuuji front, some competitors don't want high numbers, and if they don't want to wear a number due to pressure then imo they should be allowed not to. Yuuji found the pressure of wearing #100 to be pretty detrimental to his performances, which is why ever since his choke in 26, he's never worn the number again despite another win after that. Tada also doesn't like high numbers, and Inui did group all of the Morimoto Sedai bar Yusuke together in the 70s, so him at that number made sense. I was actually shocked to see him wear the number he did in 41 (no spoilers as General thread) BECAUSE he doesn't want those top spots. Kawaguchi has been quite controversial a competitor. A lot of people don't like him because of the high numbers and screen time he usually gets, he's basically treated how Darvish used to be treated a few years back before people started warming to him because "celebrities = ratings" (as though that was never obvious from the get go). Tomo isn't a celebrity so people think it's okay to constantly dick on him for the way he's marketed on the show. Sure, some of his numbers have been ridiculous (like #98 in 39), and it may have been a stretch to market him as the "Number 2 competitor" at the time, but I firmly think he's the most over hated competitor at this point, to the point that people laugh when he fails and generally aren't particularly nice about him. Dude's had an incredible career, both inside and outside of Sasuke (which is partially why he got hyped so much, because of his Per-Adra business), as well as representing Japan in multiple international comps. I defo see why he's a favorite of Inui's, and I think the sentiment towards him from a lot of the fan base is just pretty rude in all honesty (not referring to you or anyone on this forum btw, but others). But yeah, for me a competitor only really deserves #98 or #99 if they have an insane breakout performance like Yuuji in 22 etc. or if their name carries a lot of weight to it, like being an All-Star or a former champion. Merely a decent run of the mill Stage 2 or 3 run would warrant low-to-mid 90s for me but no higher. But that's obvs just my take; everyone has diff opinions. |
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Post by shunsukenumber98 on Feb 16, 2024 23:43:01 GMT -5
So, after thinking about my number placements, I will be making a few changes to the list I have above, here are as follows:
SK 9: 98-Shingo 99-Takeda 100-Yamada
SK 32: 98-Asa 99-Kanno 100-Tomohiro (if Nagano doesn't retire)
changing these 2 for the following reasons:
-My reasoning for putting Nakata number 98 is cause there was no other person to put 98 as those who could have worn this number failed the first stage last time. But after careful consideration, I decided that Nakata is not worthy pf this number, hence the change to shingo, as the number for this tournament seems to be a better fit.
-I only factored in competitors who wanted to retire for sasuke 32 is because in those other tournaments, the retirement doesn't make sense and is quite BS to me (eg sasuke 28), or the competitor that wanted to retire had produced poor results that didn't warrant getting 99 or 100 (Akiyama in Sasuke 9 or Yamada in all his vows to retire or even Yuji in sasuke 34). If the number were up to me, they should get a high number, but none of them should be wearing 98-100, numbers which are deemed for those who were actually producing good results that warrant these numbers. Sasuke 32 was different, it was Nagano retiring and well, we all know the legacy of Nagano, which is why when i initially made the list, I decided to factor in his retirement, due to his status, and i Decided to add in another list just for sasuke 32 if Nagano doesn't retire. I'm not doing it for the other tournaments that had prominent competitors retiring, as in those competitions, the retirement was BS and the said competitors that wanted to retire were not producing good results that warrant a 98-100 placement.
-remember this is just my opinion, it's not on any side of realism
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