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Post by hengelbrok on Jul 15, 2009 16:05:20 GMT -5
hello all,
david was kind enough to let me know of american ninja warrior (anc5), but upon going to the upload page i could find nothing about deadlines or any kind of time frame. i threw together a video using old footage so i could submit something worrying i would not have enough time to get new material. i've already submitted this video to G4, but apparently i probably have at least two weeks or so to get new footage and resubmit to g4.
if possible id like any feedback any of you could give on the video. things youd change, new things to include, things that just plain suck and need to be altered or scrapped altogether, any input you have at all.
thanks
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Post by pker50111 on Jul 15, 2009 16:23:33 GMT -5
It was good but, since I have seen all of your other entry videos in the past it was very similar and since you still have a gooood while before they stop accepting (roughly July 31st) I would get new footage since G4 would most likely remember. But still looking strong =D
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Post by bigblind168 on Jul 15, 2009 17:30:47 GMT -5
it was good. you got strength, speed, balance.
A few things tho;
when u kicked the vending machine, tht was pointless take it out.
show that you can do obstacles. make a cliff hanger and tape yourself doing it, recreate the salmon ladder somehow and show you can do that. have obstacle replicas.
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Post by madmanike on Jul 15, 2009 18:55:49 GMT -5
As Bigblind said, you show off good speed and balance and exceptional strength. I agree that the fight stuff should get the axe and see if you can get more obstacle training in. I'd also like to point out that you really don't show off much personality. Not once did we get a glimpse of who you are past being athletic. You made it the into the voteoff spots in ANC2 and 3, so judges in the past have definitely liked what you've put up before. So find that spark again that got you there and I think you got a good chance of getting in. Just don't do it right after you wake up  |
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Post by Oti on Jul 15, 2009 22:03:51 GMT -5
Like everyone said, take out the stuff that is irrelevant to Sasuke.
HOWEVER, unlike them, I have something else to say.
Once you have your training video, make sure you add some of that fun stuff back in. A totally serious video makes you look like a robot. Conversely, a totally irrelevant video (100% parkour, for example) makes you look like an untrained idiot. Try to find a nice little balance.
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Post by davidcampbell on Jul 16, 2009 1:16:00 GMT -5
I agree, having a few kicks and martial arts moves, tells us a little about him and makes the video unique....as long as it's just a couple short shots and then back to the Sasuke skills.
Even I made a quick mention of having a background in martial arts, which G4 seemed to love and kinda defined me as a martial artist.
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Post by hengelbrok on Jul 16, 2009 2:25:11 GMT -5
thanks for all the feedback.
i tend to agree with david on the martial arts stuff. G4 seems to like to be able to label people as well see something unique or interesting. taken straight from the upload page: "Be creative. There are lots of ways to show us you're camera-ready and tough enough to be an American Ninja Warrior, and we want to see them."
it was mentioned that i should include more obstacle simulations, with specific reference to salmon ladder and cliffhanger. those are what i would consider the ninja killers of stages 2 and 3, and for that reason included both in my video.
the salmon ladder simulation would be when i campus dyno my way up the climbing route. i realize this is not exactly the same as doing the salmon ladder, but my body was doing a similar motion and the distance between each hold was at least as large as the salmon ladder spacings. also i feel it is more difficult since the holds are all different shapes, i had to go in different directions aside from just up, and it does not show very clearly but the wall there has a sharp angle to it so i had to also control my body's swing as i came up and out to each hold. so i guess my question is: did this not clearly or at all show a salmon ladder simulation? if not, then what is a better way to do so, short of actually recreating the entire obstacle myself?
cliffhanger simulation was when i move my body from one small ledge, to another. moving across a ledge is easy, i wanted to show i could complete the gap in the cliffhanger. the ledges i used were i think smaller than the cliffhanger ledges are at the point of the gap. the distance however was not large enough. i will refilm with a larger gap that forces me to jump.
on the same note since i am speaking of simulating obstacles: my intention was to show what i felt were the ninja killers of each stage (excluding 4) which would be spider jump, salmon ladder, and cliffhanger. in general it is not easy for me to set something up that would simulate most of the obstacles. i felt if i focused on showing the harder ones, as well as general strength, speed, balance etc that would get the job done. was it just that showing these was not enough, and more obstacles are needed, or simply that i failed to properly simulate the obstacles i chose?
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Post by Oti on Jul 16, 2009 3:22:09 GMT -5
There is no real way to show you can do the Salmon Ladder without building it. If you're serious about Sasuke, you might as well. They're simple to build.
I think the problem is that you didn't show them well. At least that's how I see it. But then there are people like Jake Hilton from the last ANC who got far with no replicas. Hell, he doesn't even use proper form on most of his exercises. So, maybe it doesn't matter. I believe, though, that if you're going to show yourself doing the obstacles, either do it on an exact replica or a harder one. Unless you do that, we don't know if you can really do the obstacle.
If you need help building anything, let me know and I'll help you get it done.
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Post by madmanike on Jul 16, 2009 6:56:10 GMT -5
Like everyone said, take out the stuff that is irrelevant to Sasuke. HOWEVER, unlike them, I have something else to say. Once you have your training video, make sure you add some of that fun stuff back in. A totally serious video makes you look like a robot. Conversely, a totally irrelevant video (100% parkour, for example) makes you look like an untrained idiot. Try to find a nice little balance. Oh, I agree with that. The little flip at the end in the suit and coming up all smiles showed alot more personality to me than all the martial arts. Also, loved the thing at the end of your ANC 3 with the sword cutting the screen in two. It's things like that that show us your funny/quirky side in a creative way. A little bit of MA stuff to show you have a background is okay, but there will be alot of people with MA backgrounds as well, so I'm not sure that would set you off from similar videos. As I said to Sam, find your personality strengths and play them up. You seem to like to joke around and add some humor to what you do. And with above mentioned examples, it works as far as I'm concerned. |
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Post by obakemono on Jul 16, 2009 8:02:14 GMT -5
I don't think there was anything I'd specifically take out, and since you still have a possible 1:40 to fill you should be okay there, although maybe G4 won't appreciate the recycled footage. You seem to have covered agility, strength, balance and endurance pretty well. I'd probably try and do a bit of talking over the video, not necessarily the whole thing, but definitely an introduction and conclusion, and maybe explaining some of your obstacle simulations.
And... oh yeah. Rope climbing.
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Post by quasikoz on Jul 16, 2009 12:10:18 GMT -5
Don't think this was previously mentioned, but I would recommend talking instead of just skillskillskills.
Introduce yourself, why you want to be on the show, etc. etc. Personality is bigger than you think when it comes to the selection process. So be yourself, but include it in. You've got some time to eat up still before you top 5 minutes.
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Post by davidcampbell on Jul 16, 2009 16:11:00 GMT -5
About the simulations, I'd say that whenever you are simulating an obstacle but it may not be completely obvious you may want to actually say "this is how I train for the Salmon Ladder" or something? Just to make sure they don't miss it.
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Post by pker50111 on Jul 16, 2009 17:49:39 GMT -5
you definitly showed that your light on your feet though, a very good quality for some of the obstacles. An example would be the Half Pipe Attack.... If they didnt replace that obstacle... which i think they will
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Post by Badalight on Jul 21, 2009 20:52:42 GMT -5
I think the MAIN thing is you need an introduction.
Seriously, you have great skills, it's just you don't show much personality and it gives G4 very little material to use when talking about you.
Theyw ant people with personality, they want to be able to talk about that person.
Also, Davi'ds suggestion was ace, give some kind of indicator that your training for the salmon ladder.
Either do a voice over in the video, or atleast show text when the video clip comes up that says something like "salmon ladder" or "salmon ladder training".
Anything like that.
Also, you have a lot more time left for teh video, it can be 5 minutes long ya know? So don't fell pressured to take out a lot of footage, just take out the clips you don't think fit or the ones that suck.
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Post by hengelbrok on Jul 21, 2009 22:17:45 GMT -5
thanks for the continued advice. i will be filming all this week taking the things you have all said into consideration. i'll post an updated version sometime next week to see what you guys think.
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