Post by dakohosu on Jan 16, 2022 12:04:15 GMT -5
I'm making this post because I remember a similar one was made about Ryo post-Sasuke 35 when he failed Stage 1 for the fifth straight time. Obviously he bounced back big-time but I feel like the situation I'm outlining here is far less recoverable and fundamentally a lot more conclusive, in my incredibly subjective opinion at least.
I'm interested to hear your thoughts as to whether Kanno should continue competing or just throw in the towel at this point.
This probably isn't what most fans, particularly those such as myself who have been a fan since Shin-Sasuke, want to hear, but I'm going with a resounding yes.
Here's my take on the situation. Kanno's now failed Stage 1 six times consecutively, which is bordering on the realm of unrecoverable at this point. Not counting those who've never cleared obviously, the only people with worse strings of fails are Katsumi Yamada and Shingo, both of which are understandable as they're much older and are largely now competing for the fun of it and to show face. Realistically, we've never seen anyone bounce back from more than four or maybe five Stage 1 fails. Ryo, Shingo, Akiyama all failed Stage 1 five times in a row before bouncing back but they were the exception and not a common case. Now obviously there's no set rule and not a huge difference between five and six, but the above examples all displayed that they were at least capable of clearing but just had bad luck. Ryo and Akiyama gave promising runs by making it to the Warped Wall in the last of their respective fails, and Shingo's athleticism wasn't really in doubt, more he was (and still is) just plagued by really dumb errors. Kanno by comparison has not only failed the same obstacle four straight times, but has also done worse in each respective attempt. None of his recent runs have shown that he's in with a shot of clearing again, besides maybe 35 but even then he was running really low on time and he's also had numerous troubles with the Warped Wall in the past.
Now if I were to leave it at that, the most prominent responses would be along the lines of 'if he clears the Dragon Glider....' or 'if he makes it to Stage 3' etc. After all he has still shown that he's capable of doing the Crazy Cliffhanger+Vertical Limit combo in a recent training video. And if it were anyone else I would say fair enough. After all, so many competitors like Ryo and Kishimoto have been in that boat of Stage 1 being their weakest stage and if they break through they could go very far indeed. The reason I think this is much more of a unique case is simple; injuries, injuries, and more injuries. Kanno has injured himself repeatedly in pursuit of regaining his former success, and it seems as though these injuries are becoming more common as he gets older. Think about it; he's injured himself several times in competition such as in 27 (twice), 32, 33, and 38. He's also missed numerous tournaments due to injuries, and half of his YouTube videos are about him in A&E recovering from yet another injury to his shoulder. I just feel like the trade-off at this point isn't worth it; continue to get injured until his shoulder is irreversibly f***ed and still not be able to clear Stage 1. The injuries result in this negative feedback loop where it gives him less time to train which in turn further hurts his chances of doing well, and even when he does train it's mainly just weightlifting which isn't going to get him out of his Stage 1 drought any time soon. But then if he were to make his training more Sasuke-specific, then he massively increases the chance of his shoulder dislocating AGAIN given that it's happened in competition, the one time every year that he runs the course.
Obviously it's fundamentally Kanno's decision, but so many athletes have retired from the sport with their heads high up for far less severe and recurring injuries. Takeda after all has retired now despite showing much more promise on Stage 1 and getting injured a fraction of the number of times that Kanno has (I think only twice, once in 36 and once before 39). I just don't think it's worth it anymore.
Let me know your thoughts on this.
I'm interested to hear your thoughts as to whether Kanno should continue competing or just throw in the towel at this point.
This probably isn't what most fans, particularly those such as myself who have been a fan since Shin-Sasuke, want to hear, but I'm going with a resounding yes.
Here's my take on the situation. Kanno's now failed Stage 1 six times consecutively, which is bordering on the realm of unrecoverable at this point. Not counting those who've never cleared obviously, the only people with worse strings of fails are Katsumi Yamada and Shingo, both of which are understandable as they're much older and are largely now competing for the fun of it and to show face. Realistically, we've never seen anyone bounce back from more than four or maybe five Stage 1 fails. Ryo, Shingo, Akiyama all failed Stage 1 five times in a row before bouncing back but they were the exception and not a common case. Now obviously there's no set rule and not a huge difference between five and six, but the above examples all displayed that they were at least capable of clearing but just had bad luck. Ryo and Akiyama gave promising runs by making it to the Warped Wall in the last of their respective fails, and Shingo's athleticism wasn't really in doubt, more he was (and still is) just plagued by really dumb errors. Kanno by comparison has not only failed the same obstacle four straight times, but has also done worse in each respective attempt. None of his recent runs have shown that he's in with a shot of clearing again, besides maybe 35 but even then he was running really low on time and he's also had numerous troubles with the Warped Wall in the past.
Now if I were to leave it at that, the most prominent responses would be along the lines of 'if he clears the Dragon Glider....' or 'if he makes it to Stage 3' etc. After all he has still shown that he's capable of doing the Crazy Cliffhanger+Vertical Limit combo in a recent training video. And if it were anyone else I would say fair enough. After all, so many competitors like Ryo and Kishimoto have been in that boat of Stage 1 being their weakest stage and if they break through they could go very far indeed. The reason I think this is much more of a unique case is simple; injuries, injuries, and more injuries. Kanno has injured himself repeatedly in pursuit of regaining his former success, and it seems as though these injuries are becoming more common as he gets older. Think about it; he's injured himself several times in competition such as in 27 (twice), 32, 33, and 38. He's also missed numerous tournaments due to injuries, and half of his YouTube videos are about him in A&E recovering from yet another injury to his shoulder. I just feel like the trade-off at this point isn't worth it; continue to get injured until his shoulder is irreversibly f***ed and still not be able to clear Stage 1. The injuries result in this negative feedback loop where it gives him less time to train which in turn further hurts his chances of doing well, and even when he does train it's mainly just weightlifting which isn't going to get him out of his Stage 1 drought any time soon. But then if he were to make his training more Sasuke-specific, then he massively increases the chance of his shoulder dislocating AGAIN given that it's happened in competition, the one time every year that he runs the course.
Obviously it's fundamentally Kanno's decision, but so many athletes have retired from the sport with their heads high up for far less severe and recurring injuries. Takeda after all has retired now despite showing much more promise on Stage 1 and getting injured a fraction of the number of times that Kanno has (I think only twice, once in 36 and once before 39). I just don't think it's worth it anymore.
Let me know your thoughts on this.
