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Post by chackpop on Jun 10, 2009 16:19:28 GMT -5
After seeing Yuuji Urushihara coming within meters from Kanzenseiha do you think the other members of UNCLI can repeat his performance? And if so, do you think TBS would declare them the new generation of All Star?
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Post by supersheep on Jun 10, 2009 16:26:02 GMT -5
Not a chance. Yuuji needs to prove he can repeat that performance himself and that he wasn't a 1 hit wonder. As for the other UNCLI, 3/4 have been on the show and didn't do anything, the 4th (Tomino) hasn't been able to qualify yet.
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Post by chackpop on Jun 10, 2009 16:33:10 GMT -5
Not a chance. Yuuji needs to prove he can repeat that performance himself and that he wasn't a 1 hit wonder. As for the other UNCLI, 3/4 have been on the show and didn't do anything, the 4th (Tomino) hasn't been able to qualify yet. Do you by any chance know where those three failed?
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Post by supersheep on Jun 10, 2009 16:39:35 GMT -5
#1 Tsuyoshi Matsuda failed the Half Pipe Attack in 19 #2 Ryo Matachi failed the flying chute in 21 #5 Keitaro Yamamoto failed the Pole Maze in 20
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Post by chackpop on Jun 10, 2009 16:47:22 GMT -5
Ryo Matachi did well and the Flying Chute isn't in the course anymore. Tsuyoshi Matsuda was one of only a few to beat the Jumping Spider in 19.
They both have potential.
Keitaro Yamamoto didn't do that well. The Pole Maze got removed so who knows his potential?
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Post by supersheep on Jun 10, 2009 16:50:34 GMT -5
I agree they probably have potential, but I dont think someone can be called an all star whose only been there once, and also in 2 of the 3 cases, wasn't even close to passing the 1st stage. I think they most definately deserve a chance, I'd like to see all 5 of them on the course in the same competition to see what they can really do. But all 5, including Yuuji, still have to prove themselves in my eyes.
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Post by chackpop on Jun 10, 2009 16:54:45 GMT -5
When I asked if they could be the new all stars, I didn't mean right away. Of course they have to prove themselves. Wasn't Nagano named an all star after one good performance in Sasuke 9?
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Post by obakemono on Jun 10, 2009 17:01:44 GMT -5
Yamamoto actually failed the Jumping Spider.
They have tremendous potential but, well, so do a lot of other people. We'll see if they can live up to it.
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Post by chackpop on Jun 10, 2009 17:09:07 GMT -5
Three UNCLI members participated in Sasuke 20.
Yamamoto failed the Jumping Spider Either Ryo Matachi or Tsuyoshi Matsuda failed the Pole Maze Either Ryo Matachi or Tsuyoshi Matsuda failed the Jumping Spider
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Post by obakemono on Jun 10, 2009 17:21:36 GMT -5
That's not true. The other two people were random STQs whose names I can't remember, but they weren't UNCLI.
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Post by Oti on Jun 10, 2009 17:29:47 GMT -5
I believe they could, but they're going to need to be consistently great.
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Post by lostinube on Jun 10, 2009 22:22:54 GMT -5
They aren't All-Stars yet. I wouldn't take just the Cliffers as a group anyway. I'd rather pick and choose from among the STQers. Kanno isn't a Cliffer but he has potential. Same with Kawaguchi and maybe Koji Hashimoto.
Only Matsuda and Yamamoto were in 20.
When it comes to the Trials and events, most of the Cliffers are at or near the top of the qualifying list. Unfairly or not, they and the other STQers have to do a bit more just to make it onto the show. I'd rather M9 give them more slots than try to bring in more new faces because now the audience may be starting to connect with these guys.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 10, 2009 22:30:49 GMT -5
I can certainly see (and hope for) all of the UNCLI guys getting on Sasuke 23 without having to do the qualifiers. They could give them the slots that Daisuke Miyazaki's teammates' spots.
As far as All-Star status... that will take time (unless all five of them make Stage Three next time or something insane).
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Post by Homeslice on Jun 11, 2009 11:58:10 GMT -5
I personally think there'll only be one group of All-Stars - our current ones. I really don't think anyone else could be one.
And even so, all these guys will have to perform great constantly. Urushihara, for one, his next several performances must prove that his performance in 22 wasn't a fluke.
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Post by quasikoz on Jun 11, 2009 15:59:14 GMT -5
For 23, I'd love to see every member of UNCLI there and perform as a "stable" like the All-Stars. From there it's up to the UNCLI guys to grab the torch from the All-Stars and run with it.
M9 needs a new group to rise up and they should have the 5 guys from UNCLI "vs." the 6 All-Stars in Sasuke 23. If the All-Stars beat down UNCLI, then don't invite back anyone from UNCLI that couldn't complete Stage 1. Any UNCLI that completes Stage 1, invite them back specifically. If 3/5 of UNCLI make the 3rd stage, invite them all back.
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Post by Oti on Jun 14, 2009 7:21:17 GMT -5
That seems... uselessly complicated...
Why not just wait until it's down to the last All-Star. The last of a dying kind. Then start searching for new ones.
By then, new people will have probably done consistently well anyway.
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Post by lars072 on Jun 21, 2009 1:55:15 GMT -5
I honestly believe that due to the difficulty and unpredictability of the first stage and the new Slider Jump, that we could see 5 totally new competitors pass the first stage in #23. It's really hit or miss with that Slider Jump, and it would be so easy to mess up there. I would not be surprised to see Kanno and Urushihara not pass stage 1. My bet for the next final stage appearance is Lee En Ji. He continues to improve each time out and he will be prepared to pass the Cliff Hanger next time out.
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Post by BLM on Jun 21, 2009 11:17:36 GMT -5
No lee enchi made to many mistakes in the first stage. if you look he spent to much time on the slider jump and almost fell from it
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Post by Badalight on Jun 21, 2009 17:34:58 GMT -5
I honestly believe that due to the difficulty and unpredictability of the first stage and the new Slider Jump, that we could see 5 totally new competitors pass the first stage in #23. It's really hit or miss with that Slider Jump, and it would be so easy to mess up there. I would not be surprised to see Kanno and Urushihara not pass stage 1. My bet for the next final stage appearance is Lee En Ji. He continues to improve each time out and he will be prepared to pass the Cliff Hanger next time out. Biased a bit? heh heh
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Post by jfeathe on Jun 21, 2009 20:18:57 GMT -5
I honestly believe that due to the difficulty and unpredictability of the first stage and the new Slider Jump, that we could see 5 totally new competitors pass the first stage in #23. It's really hit or miss with that Slider Jump, and it would be so easy to mess up there. I would not be surprised to see Kanno and Urushihara not pass stage 1. My bet for the next final stage appearance is Lee En Ji. He continues to improve each time out and he will be prepared to pass the Cliff Hanger next time out. You hit the nail on the head. There really is no way to fudge your way through the second stage and beyond. If Urushihara or Kanno clears the first stage next time, Total Victory will be nearly ensured (or something close to that.)
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