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Post by tns8597 on Jun 18, 2020 7:15:57 GMT -5
What's the worst ever Third Stage run in your opinion? Not counting Daisuke Nakata in 17 or Shingo in 23 as they were injured.
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Post by zoran on Jun 18, 2020 11:13:14 GMT -5
The Worst I'd say was the competitor who failed the propeller bars in 7. The Most disappointing I'd say was Bunpei Shiratori's body prop fail in 17.
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Post by tns8597 on Jun 18, 2020 14:50:59 GMT -5
The Worst I'd say was the competitor who failed the propeller bars in 7. The Most disappointing I'd say was Bunpei Shiratori's body prop fail in 17. James Okada? Yeah possibly; it also didn't help that he cleared both Stage 1 and Stage 2 with like 0.1 seconds left, really felt like the biggest fluke/like he didn't deserve to be in Stage 3. I think I agree, but I think notable mentions go to: - Daisuke Miyazaki in SASUKE 21 - Yusuke Suzuki in 32, who came insanely close to failing literally the first transition of the first obstacle - Ben Toyer in 36 - Shingo in SASUKE 9 |
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Post by ChiBiJKT48 on Jun 18, 2020 15:08:32 GMT -5
Worst (Non All-Stars): Ishikawa Terukazu in SASUKE 27. Only beat Arm Bike *which I am confident I can do it ten times back and forth without falling* and swing too long before failing Flying Bar in an unforgettable and unique fashion, which if I remember, the only person to fail that way.
Worst (All-Stars): Takeda Toshihiro in SASUKE 11. Yamamoto Shingo's result in SASUKE 9 could still be acceptable because he fail new obstacle *but still, that is disappointing*. But Takeda? He already beat Body Prop twice before, and even he train intensively on Body Prop because he fail there the first time he attempt Third Stage. And what happen? Small slip and it's over. His face when he fell tell it. And remember, this is before his right shoulder is hurt.
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Post by tns8597 on Jun 18, 2020 15:16:39 GMT -5
Worst (Non All-Stars): Ishikawa Terukazu in SASUKE 27. Only beat Arm Bike *which I am confident I can do it ten times back and forth without falling* and swing too long before failing Flying Bar in an unforgettable and unique fashion, which if I remember, the only person to fail that way. Worst (All-Stars): Takeda Toshihiro in SASUKE 11. Yamamoto Shingo's result in SASUKE 9 could still be acceptable because he fail new obstacle *but still, that is disappointing*. But Takeda? He already beat Body Prop twice before, and even he train intensively on Body Prop because he fail there the first time he attempt Third Stage. And what happen? Small slip and it's over. His face when he fell tell it. And remember, this is before his right shoulder is hurt. Hmmm not sure about the Takeda comment. The Body Prop is an insanely tough obstacle, that's why so many top competitors failed it during it's time, whereas Shingo failed probably the easiest part of the Rumbling Dice; if you see the footage its barely a jump yet he still managed to fall off the platform. Another possible candidate is Naoki Iketani in SASUKE 16, he basically failed the Body Prop immediately. Also, the fact that he consistently failed earlier/obstacles that he had passed before works against him. |
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Jun 18, 2020 16:01:32 GMT -5
Sato in 4! POLE JUMP FAIL FTW! XD Just wanted to say that. Shingo as well as Kosuke in SASUKE 9 and 14 respectively also. Oomph.  |
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Post by tns8597 on Jun 18, 2020 16:29:49 GMT -5
I feel like most of the bad Stage 3 runs are where Stage 2 is underwhelming/too easy; like the point of Stage 2 is to filter out the 'weaker' competitors from the strong. Like in 32, Stage 2 was far too easy which meant Suzuki got to Stage 3, and he arguably just wasn't cut out to be there. Same with Miyazaki in 21, cos the time limit for that tournament's Stage 2 was way too lenient.
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Post by SasukeBanzukeNo1 (Moon12) on Jun 30, 2020 23:00:59 GMT -5
Sato in 4! POLE JUMP FAIL FTW! XD Just wanted to say that. Shingo as well as Kosuke in SASUKE 9 and 14 respectively also. Oomph. Wow, you definitely beat me to all of those lmao |
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Post by SasukeBanzukeNo1 (Moon12) on Jun 30, 2020 23:08:02 GMT -5
What's the worst ever Third Stage run in your opinion? Not counting Daisuke Nakata in 17 or Shingo in 23 as they were injured. Yea, the arm rings were definitely a brutal obstacle for those with upper bodies that weren't 100%. That's plainly excusable |
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Jul 1, 2020 3:44:40 GMT -5
Sato in 4! POLE JUMP FAIL FTW! XD Just wanted to say that. Shingo as well as Kosuke in SASUKE 9 and 14 respectively also. Oomph. Wow, you definitely beat me to all of those lmao  Oh and Kane in SASUKE 1! POLE BRIDGE! XD |
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Post by ChiBiJKT48 on Jul 1, 2020 7:25:49 GMT -5
Wow, you definitely beat me to all of those lmao Oh and Kane in SASUKE 1! POLE BRIDGE! XD To be fair, the reason Yamamoto Yoshihito and Kane failed in first tournament is because the Pole Bridge is much harder, foam vs. wood. |
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Post by tns8597 on Jul 1, 2020 10:53:42 GMT -5
For me I think it's James Okada in SASUKE 7.
A lot of the first obstacle failures tend to be due to mistakes or injury, and while those runs still suck it's not really down to a lack of skill per se.
Whereas as I mentioned before Okada probably should've failed Stage 1 or 2 as he barely cleared Stage 1, and with Stage 2 I'm pretty sure he didn't make it in time but they just let him through anyway and turned off the clock early. And with Stage 3, failing the Propeller Bar is defo due to a lack of skill.
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Post by daramunya on Jul 1, 2020 16:32:13 GMT -5
Worst (Non All-Stars): Ishikawa Terukazu in SASUKE 27. Only beat Arm Bike *which I am confident I can do it ten times back and forth without falling* and swing too long before failing Flying Bar in an unforgettable and unique fashion, which if I remember, the only person to fail that way. Lol that Ishikawa one in 27 is the most spectacularly epic fail I've ever seen. Dude literally pulled a front flip dive Worst runs: 1. Sato (4) 2. Okada (7) 3. Shingo (9) 4. Nakata (9/10) 5. Yamaguchi (14) 6. Hamm (15) 7. Iketani (16) 8. Orosco (26) 9. Toyer (36) 10. Darvish (36) |
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Post by tns8597 on Jul 1, 2020 17:12:35 GMT -5
Worst (Non All-Stars): Ishikawa Terukazu in SASUKE 27. Only beat Arm Bike *which I am confident I can do it ten times back and forth without falling* and swing too long before failing Flying Bar in an unforgettable and unique fashion, which if I remember, the only person to fail that way. Lol that Ishikawa one in 27 is the most spectacularly epic fail I've ever seen. Dude literally pulled a front flip dive Worst runs: 1. Sato (4) 2. Okada (7) 3. Shingo (9) 4. Nakata (9/10) 5. Yamaguchi (14) 6. Hamm (15) 7. Iketani (16) 8. Orosco (26) 9. Toyer (36) 10. Darvish (36) I agree with some of these and disagree with others. I don't think Sato's was as bad as Okada's because it was a simple mistake rather than a lack of skill. I reckon it would've been way worse if he'd fallen before the platform rather than overshooting it. Also, with Nakata and Morgan Hamm, remember that in both cases, someone failed earlier than them in Stage 3 in those tournaments. I think Morgan Hamm's run was actually pretty impressive given that he doesn't train for SASUKE. As I mentioned, I tend to judge things by lack of skill rather than a simple mistake that isn't necessarily reflective of the competitor's skill. Orosco and Darvish I agree with cos they both just didn't have the skills to get far enough; Iketani also because he always seemed to do worse in every Stage 3 run he partook in. Darvish in particular just didn't seem a good fit for Stage 3 (I know Toyer technically did worse than him but that was a result of a dumb error). |
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Post by daramunya on Jul 1, 2020 22:06:07 GMT -5
Oh yeah out of all these Sato is definitely the most forgiving fail cuz anyone can overshot that jump. I included him since he's the only person to fail the pole jump. As for Nakata, the problem is that for those 2 tournaments he failed the lamp grasper as soon as he attempts it. No one should fail an obstacle without giving it a proper attempt. I included Hamm because he passed a much more tougher obstacle(body prop) only to fail at the curtain cling which I think is more disappointing rather than bad.
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Jul 2, 2020 2:25:38 GMT -5
Oh and Kane in SASUKE 1! POLE BRIDGE! XD To be fair, the reason Yamamoto Yoshihito and Kane failed in first tournament is because the Pole Bridge is much harder, foam vs. wood. Ok That I did not know so ok they get a pass. |
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Post by tns8597 on Jul 2, 2020 5:54:19 GMT -5
I can sort of forgive Brian Orosco because the Roulette Cylinder is hard af, and it also took out another 2 competitors in ANW5 so clearly it's not just his problem.
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Post by SasukeBanzukeNo1 (Moon12) on Jul 20, 2020 2:14:17 GMT -5
Wow, you definitely beat me to all of those lmao Oh and Kane in SASUKE 1! POLE BRIDGE! XD Oh yea, of course. To be fair, he and Yamamoto Yoshihito both looked like they had bigger masses than the rest of the stage 3 finalists. And even though competitors like Omori Akira almost failed that obstacle, he was at least light enough to maintain his composure and make it to the end. Omori, Kawashima Takayuki, Yo Takashi, and Ken Hasegawa seemed to have much lighter physiques to get through. Although, I can at least say this with great confidence that Yoshihito's and Kane's wipeouts were rather spectacular nontheless! hahaha |
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Post by GlobalNinjaFan on Jul 20, 2020 3:27:23 GMT -5
I'm gonna go with Tomohiro Kawaguchi in Sasuke 36. The dude has received multiple #99 placements in the current era, and is often billed as being one of the strongest contenders overall, but in a tournament where people were breaking new ground on the Third Stage, he just... disappointingly fell on the first UCH transition. It was a complete anticlimax.
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Post by tns8597 on Jul 20, 2020 10:50:57 GMT -5
I'm gonna go with Tomohiro Kawaguchi in Sasuke 36. The dude has received multiple #99 placements in the current era, and is often billed as being one of the strongest contenders overall, but in a tournament where people were breaking new ground on the Third Stage, he just... disappointingly fell on the first UCH transition. It was a complete anticlimax. Yeah that was probably the most underwhelming run of the entire tournament; even more so than Nagasaki's because that was pretty funny, and Drew's was just unfair. I think Kawaguchi's overrated anyway. He doesn't deserve to get #99 every tournament and so much screen time, especially as it's coming up to 6 years since he made the Final Stage. Competitors like Jun Sato and Drew I'd say are overall stronger and more consistent, as well as having more time to show their potential as they're a lot younger (Tomo is nearing 40 now which is typically when even the stronger competitors start to decline) yet they never seem to get the spotlight they deserve. |
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