zoran
Jessie Graff
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Post by zoran on Jan 4, 2020 14:37:10 GMT -5
What would happen if a competitor achieved total victory after another total victory tournament?
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Post by Kane-Not-Kosugi on Jan 4, 2020 15:21:11 GMT -5
I'd imagine a back to back kanzen is renewed, just not as hard. Prime example: Ayako winning KUNOICHI 3 times in a row. The course was altered, but not too much.
I'd say for SASUKE currently the obstacles wouldn't change too much just for budgeting reasons. I think Inui would think with common sense and say "Okay, these obstacles need to change when they win." Like (hopefully) Stage 2. However, with the current budget, if there was a back to back Kanzenseiha, there would only be a few changes like the differences between Sasuke 36 and 37.
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Dazed (Wiin)
Ishikawa Terukazu
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Post by Dazed (Wiin) on Jan 5, 2020 8:57:04 GMT -5
Gosh, an odd title for this thread. Could have came into this thread and it have been anything I find... I think it would be important to see who beat it both times, and how. Then look at what obstacles are important. (I assume you are talking about the course.) I would say the majority of new obstacles would remain the same or modified. Any old and obsolete obstacles would probably be prioritized for the chopping block. If we see someone, like a short competitor beating it back to back, then the course may get a hint of height bias the next time around. If we see someone, like a competitor with unbreakable grip beating it back to back, then that course may get a hint of precision or leg strength based obstacles added in. You can almost see them doing this anyway. Take 30 for example. Two upper body strong competitors made it to the final, so in 31, they threw a curve ball known as the tackle, which ultimately caught one of the two finalists out. Things would get interesting if it were different people each time. In any case, they'd still try add more difficulty in ways to prevent another such victory. The easiest way to prevent someone from doing good is found in the third stage because its difficulty tends to increase exponentially from victory to next season. If they are getting too many victories back to back, it wouldn't be too hard to make some minor adjustments to make the third stage much much harder. Hmmm, just like removing the resting bars after the vertical limit so that you had to attempt three of the most difficult obstacles back to back to back. Sounds familiar right? The production team knows when they want a victory and they know how to make it feel earned.
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Post by lostinube on Jan 5, 2020 11:02:46 GMT -5
After Nagano's Kanzenseiha in 17 and Yuuji's in 24 they altered the courses significantly but people still made the 3rd Stage only to fail some version of the Cliffhanger. And in 18 Nagano was one of those in the 3rd Stage. So sometimes, if enough people are in their physical primes, there's nothing that can be done about it. Between 27 and 28 there was the M9 bankruptcy and a change in the production staff so they had to re-do everything no matter what so it's an outlier. Currently, Inui and co tend to very reactive to successful competitors. They will try to introduce certain obstacles to knock out specific people or groups. The elongated Fishbone is an example. People made their own so they made it harder.
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Rafas
Honma Kōta
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Post by Rafas on Mar 31, 2020 4:16:40 GMT -5
i reckon due to budget problems, there would be less new obstacles, but more small tweaks to other obstacles.
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