The infamous episode

[RiderLeangle]

Where can I see the infamous episode of Kinniku Banzuke that led to its cancelation anyways?

[chackpop]

It may not have aired because of the injuries.

[lostinube]

May 19, 2009 20:15:15 GMT -5 chackpop said:

It may not have aired because of the injuries.

Right. They were forced to halt taping after the second injury and never completed the show. Kinniku Banzuke went off the air suddenly pretty much right after that.

[RiderLeangle]

May 19, 2009 22:06:18 GMT -5 lostinube said:

May 19, 2009 20:15:15 GMT -5 chackpop said:

It may not have aired because of the injuries.

Right. They were forced to halt taping after the second injury and never completed the show. Kinniku Banzuke went off the air suddenly pretty much right after that.

Wait. If it never aired how did you get the screenshots for your blog about that?

[scnoi1217]

Taken from Ube's own words in that post:

"Also, the following pictures come from various sites and are linked to or used without permission. If you hold the copyright to them, please mail me)"

There's your answer.

Even if it was shown, Kinniku Banzuke episodes are hard to come by as it is. So finding THAT particular show would be very difficult. But since it never aired, no footage is available anywhere.

[lostinube]

May 19, 2009 22:38:10 GMT -5 scnoi1217 said:

Taken from Ube's own words in that post:

"Also, the following pictures come from various sites and are linked to or used without permission. If you hold the copyright to them, please mail me)"

There's your answer.

The photos were taken from various news stories and also a few people have put up screen shots of the news stories from when the story broke.

I believe they couldn't tear down the course immediately because the police got involved. Thus reporters had a chance to get shots of the course.

[joemello]

Common sense says that the episode never aired. It could easily be considered a breach of ethics to show it and whatever ministry controls television would be absolutely up in arms.

May 19, 2009 22:43:34 GMT -5 lostinube said:

I believe they couldn't tear down the course immediately because the police got involved. Thus reporters had a chance to get shots of the course.

This would make a whole lot of sense if true, because the course then becomes an active crime scene, and messing with one gets you in deep six. Just ask Richard Nixon.

My only question is what would be the possible charges to be brought against M9? It's 2:20AM and nothing seems to come to mind.

[lostinube]

If I recall correctly, it had to do with their indifference to the injuries of the participants - the first person wasn't taken to the hospital immediately and they kept taping then the other person got injured. The police investigated because of negligence and to check on TBS/Monster 9's safety measures.

The revamp of the show (Taiiku Ookoku) started after the producers reviewed and then rewrote their safety precautions.

Monster 9 has had a problem with injuries and not doing much about them.

The reason the five people who got injured during 18 made the news was because they didn't report on them until after the show went on air.

I believe some Muscle Musical members (not the defectors) sued because Monster 9 was not providing them with proper insurance.

And a female competitor was partially shocked getting out of the water during KUNOICHI or something like that (this was KUNOICHI 6 I believe).

Injuries during TV shows are supposed to be reported to the government body that regulates media and the police if they are serious.

[RiderLeangle]

May 20, 2009 1:48:05 GMT -5 lostinube said:

Monster 9 has had a problem with injuries and not doing much about them. The reason the five people who got injured during 18 made the news was because they didn't report on them until after the show went on air.

So the controversy is the reason they brought back the steps instead of trying to make a revised (and obviously) safer version of the Rope Glider?

And didn't someone get hurt during KUNOICHI?

I heard something about a fall on the Pendulum Bridge that she (I forget who) was hospitalized for. Which explains the Magic Wall

[jfeathe]

May 20, 2009 1:54:52 GMT -5 RiderLeangle said:

May 20, 2009 1:48:05 GMT -5 lostinube said:

Monster 9 has had a problem with injuries and not doing much about them. The reason the five people who got injured during 18 made the news was because they didn't report on them until after the show went on air.

So the controversy is the reason they brought back the steps instead of trying to make a revised (and obviously) safer version of the Rope Glider?

And didn't someone get hurt during KUNOICHI?

I heard something about a fall on the Pendulum Bridge that she (I forget who) was hospitalized for. Which explains the Magic Wall

How can you get hurt falling from the Penulum Bridge and how is the Magic Wall any safer

[SuperTiger]

May 20, 2009 12:18:24 GMT -5 jfeathe said:

May 20, 2009 1:54:52 GMT -5 RiderLeangle said:

So the controversy is the reason they brought back the steps instead of trying to make a revised (and obviously) safer version of the Rope Glider?


I heard something about a fall on the Pendulum Bridge that she (I forget who) was hospitalized for. Which explains the Magic Wall

How can you get hurt falling from the Penulum Bridge and how is the Magic Wall any safer

Well heres the deal with Kunoichi(This is speculation based off something i read off the Chinese wiki), when they brought the Pendulum Bridge back for Kunoichi 6, it was a lot higher than it was in previous competitions, because the Peg Jump was significantly higher than the Super Vault or Unforgiving Wall leading to Domino Hill be higher and slightly more difficult. The Bridge had always been very high but (and I'm basing this on memory b/c i haven't seen Kunoichi 6 in over a year) the distance from it and the water in k#6 was only a few meters lower than the Balance Walk from k#2 which was very high. One fall off the Pendulum Bridge into cold water from that high up could lead to serious injury. I don't remember how Mizuho Maeda failed it, but a drop that far=Bad News.

The Magic Wall is significantly safer than the Pendulum Bridge, because, the competitor must be set in a harness and hooked up to a rope before they climb the wall, so they wouldn't just plummet into the water.

As far as the Rope Glider goes, yes they brought the steps back because there really isn't a great way to make the Rope Glider easier, what were they gonna do, put plexi-glass around the mat so that you have to drop into it or go really slow like the slippery slide, etc, like that would have worked.

[jfeathe]

I not saying you're wrong, but how do you know they would be set up in a harness for the magic wall?

[RiderLeangle]

May 20, 2009 15:57:53 GMT -5 SuperTiger said:

when they brought the Pendulum Bridge back for Kunoichi 6, it was a lot higher than it was in previous competitions, because the Peg Jump was significantly higher than the Super Vault or Unforgiving Wall leading to Domino Hill be higher and slightly more difficult. The Bridge had always been very high but (and I'm basing this on memory b/c i haven't seen Kunoichi 6 in over a year) the distance from it and the water in k#6 was only a few meters lower than the Balance Walk from k#2 which was very high. One fall off the Pendulum Bridge into cold water from that high up could lead to serious injury. I don't remember how Mizuho Maeda failed it,

She failed it like this


And it's not that much higher than before, I don't think it even is higher than before, Domino Hill was the same height as it's always been. And no, she didn't hit the bridge on the way down, she just stepped off the side.

EDIT: This is the internet so Pics or it never happened.
It's not higher than before

[joemello]

May 20, 2009 16:20:41 GMT -5 jfeathe said:

I not saying you're wrong, but how do you know they would be set up in a harness for the magic wall?

It's a giant rock wall. What do you expect they'll do, give her a handshake and wish her godspeed?

M9 may play fast and loose with the safety regulations, but not having any sort of harness would be straight-up dumb.

[Oti]

Well, until we have proof either way, we can't say.

[bigblind168]

well i think its more of common sense...
unless the water pit is rly deep so the girls wont break their back... but then they culd drown. so yhe prob some sorta harness

[SuperTiger]

Jun 5, 2009 14:45:41 GMT -5 RiderLeangle said:

May 20, 2009 15:57:53 GMT -5 SuperTiger said:

when they brought the Pendulum Bridge back for Kunoichi 6, it was a lot higher than it was in previous competitions, because the Peg Jump was significantly higher than the Super Vault or Unforgiving Wall leading to Domino Hill be higher and slightly more difficult. The Bridge had always been very high but (and I'm basing this on memory b/c i haven't seen Kunoichi 6 in over a year) the distance from it and the water in k#6 was only a few meters lower than the Balance Walk from k#2 which was very high. One fall off the Pendulum Bridge into cold water from that high up could lead to serious injury. I don't remember how Mizuho Maeda failed it,

She failed it like this


And it's not that much higher than before, I don't think it even is higher than before, Domino Hill was the same height as it's always been. And no, she didn't hit the bridge on the way down, she just stepped off the side.

EDIT: This is the internet so Pics or it never happened.
It's not higher than before

Thanks for clearing that up for me rider, maybe the Bridge isn't as high as i thought but still the drop can injure someone, though i think she ended up alright.

As for the Magic Wall, once again if they didn't harness up competitors the girls could get hurt real bad on the obstacle. If they were on the angled part of the wall, a fall into the cold water could break there spines, so for M9 to not use a harness or something would be a insta-lawsuit.

[RiderLeangle]

I'm guessing where he got that logical idea is because there are steps after the Tourindan and that the Magic Wall is a complete different structure.

[joemello]

Aside: did we ever figure out what the red zone was made from? It honestly looked like punching bags to me

[RiderLeangle]

Looks pretty much the same as the buyoishi (or however you spell it)/Dancing Stones only all of them are spring loaded and in a straight line