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Post by tomatobhutan on Jan 4, 2019 23:37:53 GMT -5
Apologies in advance if this has been talked about before but I’ve found something I’ve never seen previously. In both SASUKE 17 and 24, after Nagano’s and Urushihara’s Kanzenseiha, graphics were shown of a “new and improved” final stage. vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/sasukepedia/images/1/1a/FinalStage2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090722074332According to Sasukepedia, the stage “...looked extremely difficult as it consisted of a Spider Climb and three ropes alternating from right to left to right. It is speculated that this was the design of the Final Stage that the producers wanted, however it was never used due to technical problems.” The article also mentions that photos exist from G4, Lee En Chi, and a SASUKE plug and play game, the last of which I am yet to research. I found nothing else describing this tower. I’d love to learn more. |
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Post by arsenette on Jan 4, 2019 23:57:06 GMT -5
It was tested several times with 3 ropes. They couldn't get it to work. Simple as that.
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Post by Kane-Not-Kosugi on Jan 5, 2019 3:27:36 GMT -5
That's a shame. It looks like a fun Final Stage. Definitely better than a G-Rope that Yuuji beat in Sasuke 27.
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Post by zoran on Jan 5, 2019 8:16:30 GMT -5
It was tested several times with 3 ropes. They couldn't get it to work. Simple as that. What were the issues with it? |
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Post by TCM on Jan 5, 2019 11:24:38 GMT -5
It was tested several times with 3 ropes. They couldn't get it to work. Simple as that. What were the issues with it? Given how easy the safety line can get tangled with just one rope going straight up, imagine having to have to keep that safety line untangled while someone slightly changes direction transferring along three ropes. If someone is too tangled, their run is dead in the water; look at Kong in 24 with just one rope. As for the second bit, those photos and game just confirm that before the Heavenly Ladder was created, the plan was to use a metal ladder over a wooden ladder. |
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Post by zoran on Jan 5, 2019 12:23:30 GMT -5
What were the issues with it? Given how easy the safety line can get tangled with just one rope going straight up, imagine having to have to keep that safety line untangled while someone slightly changes direction transferring along three ropes. If someone is too tangled, their run is dead in the water; look at Kong in 24 with just one rope. As for the second bit, those photos and game just confirm that before the Heavenly Ladder was created, the plan was to use a metal ladder over a wooden ladder. Could it be possible to design the stage without a safety wire? |
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Post by tomatobhutan on Jan 5, 2019 13:34:17 GMT -5
Given how easy the safety line can get tangled with just one rope going straight up, imagine having to have to keep that safety line untangled while someone slightly changes direction transferring along three ropes. If someone is too tangled, their run is dead in the water; look at Kong in 24 with just one rope. As for the second bit, those photos and game just confirm that before the Heavenly Ladder was created, the plan was to use a metal ladder over a wooden ladder. Could it be possible to design the stage without a safety wire? That’s what I was thinking but it’s all fun and games until someone dies. |
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Post by TCM on Jan 5, 2019 14:26:04 GMT -5
82 feet off the ground, without a safety wire. A little more thought next time, please.
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Post by kunnai56 on Jan 5, 2019 15:14:56 GMT -5
Could it be possible to design the stage without a safety wire? That’s what I was thinking but it’s all fun and games until someone dies. Yeah, the risk of falling off the Stage is still a likelihood. Just look at Shingo in SASUKE 7, or Jordan Jovtchev in SASUKE 8. Without a wire, Jordan would've seriously hurt himself. This would be even more likely in this particular Final Stage with three ropes, as someone could easily fall while trying to grab a rope horizontally. To my knowledge, the only Final Stage without a rope was KUNOICHI 1 and 2's Final Stage, as that was just a balance beam. I suppose if you engineered the Final Stage similar to Viking's Final Stage with a Horizontal Rope, a wireless Stage would be possible, but highly unlikely. |
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Post by TCM on Jan 6, 2019 11:04:51 GMT -5
That’s what I was thinking but it’s all fun and games until someone dies. Yeah, the risk of falling off the Stage is still a likelihood. Just look at Shingo in SASUKE 7, or Jordan Jovtchev in SASUKE 8. Without a wire, Jordan would've seriously hurt himself. This would be even more likely in this particular Final Stage with three ropes, as someone could easily fall while trying to grab a rope horizontally. To my knowledge, the only Final Stage without a rope was KUNOICHI 1 and 2's Final Stage, as that was just a balance beam. I suppose if you engineered the Final Stage similar to Viking's Final Stage with a Horizontal Rope, a wireless Stage would be possible, but highly unlikely. Nagano was still harnessed to a safety wire even while doing the horizontal rope. This is not a concept people should be entertaining. Yes, there are numerous obstacles and events where people were off the ground a few feet in the air and just fell in water or padding. Not a massive trek over dozens of feet in the air. Once you start needing to account for factors like the velocity someone is falling, you've gone too far into a fantasy that doesn't need to be made a reality. |
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Post by tomatobhutan on Jan 6, 2019 15:07:22 GMT -5
Yeah, the risk of falling off the Stage is still a likelihood. Just look at Shingo in SASUKE 7, or Jordan Jovtchev in SASUKE 8. Without a wire, Jordan would've seriously hurt himself. This would be even more likely in this particular Final Stage with three ropes, as someone could easily fall while trying to grab a rope horizontally. To my knowledge, the only Final Stage without a rope was KUNOICHI 1 and 2's Final Stage, as that was just a balance beam. I suppose if you engineered the Final Stage similar to Viking's Final Stage with a Horizontal Rope, a wireless Stage would be possible, but highly unlikely. Nagano was still harnessed to a safety wire even while doing the horizontal rope. This is not a concept people should be entertaining. Yes, there are numerous obstacles and events where people were off the ground a few feet in the air and just fell in water or padding. Not a massive trek over dozens of feet in the air. Once you start needing to account for factors like the velocity someone is falling, you've gone too far into a fantasy that doesn't need to be made a reality. What if you covered the safety line with butter to make it slippery? |
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Post by TCM on Jan 6, 2019 15:47:36 GMT -5
Given that response, and the fact the actual question has been answered, I don't think it needs to be open anymore.
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