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Post by hoseasasuke on Apr 29, 2018 5:21:10 GMT -5
While reading a thread about the most underrated obstacles in SASUKE,and seeing a post about the Flying Chute,I kind of came up with this idea.TBH,I think the most influential tournaments in SASUKE history are SASUKES 19,20,and 24.Because,after SASUKE 19,viewership of the show started to decline a little bit and only went up when influential people like Nagano for example,cleared.The common fans didn't really care about the others,they idolized only 1 person:Makoto Nagano.And when the Flying Chute beat him in 19,casual fans would think:"Crap,this course is too hard for even Nagano to beat!".Although 20 had comparable ratings to 19,Nagano failed the Downhill Jump,further cementing that the course would be too hard for even Nagano.Hence why his great performance in 21 wasn't noticed by most of the common fans.After hearing of his great performance in 21,the ratings were back again to pre-21 levels in 22 and 23,boosted by Nagano's final stage attempt in one of the tournaments.But 24 is where the ratings fell off.Nagano,failed in the First Stage.People were fuming at how their stars,the All-Stars were falling.Then,came the defining moment.Takeda failing the Spider Flip.It was a really emotional moment and finally showed to the audience that the All-Stars had lost the battle against the New Stars.This,combined with Nagano continously failing the First Stage,led some of the casual fans to leave the show because they just couldn't accept the old breed dying and the new breed taking over the show,although he did have a comeback in 27,which was also,coincidentally,their best ratings performance in over a year.
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Post by zoran on Apr 29, 2018 6:07:14 GMT -5
Well explain why 22(14.7) a tournament where all the all stars failed the first stage had a higher rating than 23(14.1) a tournament where an all star made the final?I agree with alot of this, I guess mainly focusing and promoting six men caught up to them in the end.
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Post by hoseasasuke on Apr 29, 2018 8:46:17 GMT -5
Well explain why 22(14.7) a tournament where all the all stars failed the first stage had a higher rating than 23(14.1) a tournament where an all star made the final?I agree with alot of this, I guess mainly focusing and promoting six men caught up to them in the end. Because,my theory is,that in 22,some of the people watched it until the end.Meanwhile,in 23,I theorize that a few of the diehard fans told the common fans that the All-Stars performed well,so those common fans tuned in to watch Nagano,Takeda,and Yamamoto(although briefly)tackle the Third Stage.If all of the All-Stars failed,then the ratings would definitely be as low as 24...
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Post by zoran on Apr 29, 2018 9:39:42 GMT -5
Well explain why 22(14.7) a tournament where all the all stars failed the first stage had a higher rating than 23(14.1) a tournament where an all star made the final?I agree with alot of this, I guess mainly focusing and promoting six men caught up to them in the end. Because,my theory is,that in 22,some of the people watched it until the end.Meanwhile,in 23,I theorize that a few of the diehard fans told the common fans that the All-Stars performed well,so those common fans tuned in to watch Nagano,Takeda,and Yamamoto(although briefly)tackle the Third Stage.If all of the All-Stars failed,then the ratings would definitely be as low as 24... Do you think Nagano failing the Metal spin in Sasuke 15 had an impact on 16's ratings because 16 according to the wiki page had a rating of 10.6 percent although some other sites say it was 14.6?
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Post by TCM on Apr 29, 2018 10:53:56 GMT -5
That 10.6% comes from Sasukepedia, you shouldn't use Sasukepedia as a direct source. It still gets edits, but that has long since been abandoned as an official source.
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Post by zoran on Apr 29, 2018 12:31:38 GMT -5
That 10.6% comes from Sasukepedia, you shouldn't use Sasukepedia as a direct source. It still gets edits, but that has long since been abandoned as an official source. What is the correct rating?
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Post by Kane-Not-Kosugi on Apr 29, 2018 17:25:58 GMT -5
I think we can all agree 27's ratings were so high because everyone thought SASUKE was being cancelled. It doesn't have a lot to do with the All Stars. Heck, the winner that tournament was a new star.
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Post by Eclipse on Apr 29, 2018 23:29:22 GMT -5
Because,my theory is,that in 22,some of the people watched it until the end.Meanwhile,in 23,I theorize that a few of the diehard fans told the common fans that the All-Stars performed well,so those common fans tuned in to watch Nagano,Takeda,and Yamamoto(although briefly)tackle the Third Stage.If all of the All-Stars failed,then the ratings would definitely be as low as 24... Do you think Nagano failing the Metal spin in Sasuke 15 had an impact on 16's ratings because 16 according to the wiki page had a rating of 10.6 percent although some other sites say it was 14.6? 16’s rating was 14.5. The SASUKE 16 page is one of the worst on the entire wiki if not the worst in terms of accuracy. Most of the competitor info isn’t even close. I’m working on doing an accuracy audit of Sasukepedia, and that page came up as beyond saving.
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Post by Philster on Apr 30, 2018 0:03:29 GMT -5
I say SASUKE 17 because we saw a totally different type of SASUKE after that tournament (Due to the kanzenseiha). My favorite SASUKE era of all time, SHIN-SASUKE(18-24)!
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Apr 30, 2018 1:09:50 GMT -5
4 brought upon the first major change and ushered in major obstacle introductions further on including the warped wall. 4 of course also brought in the cliffhanger. Both obstacles have stood the test of time throughout each reinstallment. That speaks volumes.
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Post by sasukewarrior333 on Apr 30, 2018 1:56:23 GMT -5
4 brought upon the first major change and ushered in major obstacle introductions further on including the warped wall. 4 of course also brought in the cliffhanger. Both obstacles have stood the test of time throughout each reinstallment. That speaks volumes. Wait really? I know the cliffhanger was in 4 but I thought 5 brought in the warped wall.
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Post by Dazed (Wiin) on Apr 30, 2018 4:32:44 GMT -5
4 brought upon the first major change and ushered in major obstacle introductions further on including the warped wall. 4 of course also brought in the cliffhanger. Both obstacles have stood the test of time throughout each reinstallment. That speaks volumes. Wait really? I know the cliffhanger was in 4 but I thought 5 brought in the warped wall. 5 did bring the Soritatsu Kabe (Warped Wall) but 4 just opened up that possibility of how far new obstacles could go. Kinniku Banzuke would tend to just change things up to make the challenge harder whereas with 4 introducing major changes like the Cliffhanger, it meant Sasuke could have A LOT of potential. In saying that, things like the Pipe Slider and Rolling Maruta were good enough changes to showcase potential potential (they were around before Sasuke 4).
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Post by hoseasasuke on Apr 30, 2018 5:25:56 GMT -5
Because,my theory is,that in 22,some of the people watched it until the end.Meanwhile,in 23,I theorize that a few of the diehard fans told the common fans that the All-Stars performed well,so those common fans tuned in to watch Nagano,Takeda,and Yamamoto(although briefly)tackle the Third Stage.If all of the All-Stars failed,then the ratings would definitely be as low as 24... Do you think Nagano failing the Metal spin in Sasuke 15 had an impact on 16's ratings because 16 according to the wiki page had a rating of 10.6 percent although some other sites say it was 14.6? 16 was 14.6.Nagano and the All-Stars did well in that one... EDIT:Correction,Sierra said it was 14.5,sorry.
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Post by hoseasasuke on Apr 30, 2018 5:26:32 GMT -5
I think we can all agree 27's ratings were so high because everyone thought SASUKE was being cancelled. It doesn't have a lot to do with the All Stars. Heck, the winner that tournament was a new star. It was just a coincidence heheh
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Post by arsenette on Apr 30, 2018 7:39:53 GMT -5
I think we can all agree 27's ratings were so high because everyone thought SASUKE was being cancelled. It doesn't have a lot to do with the All Stars. Heck, the winner that tournament was a new star. No one knew 27 was the last Monster 9 tournament... I remember distinctly being attacked for being a debbie downer on it. SO many reasons why ratings are higher or lower including what the competition was, what day it was, what time it was, how long it was and how well people knew of it's existence.
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Apr 30, 2018 11:46:26 GMT -5
4 brought upon the first major change and ushered in major obstacle introductions further on including the warped wall. 4 of course also brought in the cliffhanger. Both obstacles have stood the test of time throughout each reinstallment. That speaks volumes. Wait really? I know the cliffhanger was in 4 but I thought 5 brought in the warped wall. yeah the cliffhanger showed up in four. And the wall showed up in five. That’s what I said.
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Post by sasukewarrior333 on Apr 30, 2018 16:09:40 GMT -5
Wait really? I know the cliffhanger was in 4 but I thought 5 brought in the warped wall. yeah the cliffhanger showed up in four. And the wall showed up in five. That’s what I said. <iframe width="32.27999999999997" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 32.27999999999997px; height: 4.840000000000003px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_54080267" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="32.27999999999997" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 32.28px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1545px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_62252159" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="32.27999999999997" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 32.28px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 181px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_20977701" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="32.27999999999997" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 32.28px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1545px; top: 181px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_61038148" scrolling="no"></iframe> Oh god sorry I misread your first post. So sorry about that.
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