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Post by sasukenerd on Jan 10, 2018 11:38:35 GMT -5
I know he had a pretty good season 9,but I miss the dominance he had or rather the respect he commanded. Now NBC just cuts his runs.
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Post by matt723894 on Jan 10, 2018 15:48:23 GMT -5
No, you are not. Not even close
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Post by Messup434 on Jan 10, 2018 22:19:38 GMT -5
Completely agree. He's one of the main people ANW need to thank for the show surviving past its first few years but instead, they've made us try to forget about him in favor of new people. It's been years since the show based who it invited on the strength of the competitor which is a real travesty IMO. It's all about the sob-stories with NBC  |
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Post by BobbyG11 on Jan 10, 2018 22:56:05 GMT -5
I wish that ANW would mention and celebrate his total victory in Vietnam. That goes the same for Drew’s deep runs in Japan, Jessie’s 34 achievements, and the guys all competing in an All-star Indonesian spin-off. But they just don’t mention anything not ANW related, with a slight pass on Drew’s international exploits.
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Post by tyler on Jan 10, 2018 23:17:59 GMT -5
They did make a big deal on his stage 1 completion this year. Part of it though sadly was his lack of domination recently. The fact he had to walk on the season before is really a complete embarrassment for ANW though. They did show him well when he completed the city finals with Bull and then the next season where he made it to the invisible ladder but then failed.
This most recent season he barely made it to the Nationals and didnt complete the city qualifier. I feel like once he has a strong City qualifier and finals again and beating stage 1 again he'll get more focus again. Once he beats stage 2 again which is certainly possible for him, he will certainly get the focus again.
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Post by gamer2k4 on Jan 12, 2018 14:09:58 GMT -5
I feel like it's about his time to go. At his peak, he was great, but he's declining, and letting him participate for "old time's sake" isn't doing his legacy any favors.
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Post by Messup434 on Jan 12, 2018 17:01:58 GMT -5
I feel like it's about his time to go. At his peak, he was great, but he's declining, and letting him participate for "old time's sake" isn't doing his legacy any favors. So they should ban him from competing simply because he hasn't had as much success of late? This is very untrue and he's actually done decently when you look at the circumstances (Silk Slider landing-pad not being inflated enough, having to camp out for weeks just to compete in season eight). This very last season he did very well and just tripped up on the Wingnut Gauntlet (which was also failed by the likes of Drechsel, Gil, Rahn, etc.). The fact that he helped start the sport and held a record up until six years ago is more than enough reason for him to still be invited for coming tournaments. Especially after the atrocity of season eight. |
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Post by DeAndre on Jan 13, 2018 4:37:31 GMT -5
To be honest, he's a strong presence on he course, but due to his consistent early falls in qualifiers, hes a little unreliable. Like we all know he can clear, obviously - remember Venice in ANW 6?
The thing is, he might feel a little neglected because of all the strong rookies nowadays, especially in the LA region - Adam Rayl, Charlie Andrews, Josh Levin, and Sean Bryan, all of whom cleared the ANW 9 city final (although I do think it was probably one of the easier finals courses this year).
But he will clear ANW 10's city finals. I believe in him.
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Post by gamer2k4 on Jan 15, 2018 17:38:29 GMT -5
I feel like it's about his time to go. At his peak, he was great, but he's declining, and letting him participate for "old time's sake" isn't doing his legacy any favors. So they should ban him from competing simply because he hasn't had as much success of late? This is very untrue and he's actually done decently when you look at the circumstances (Silk Slider landing-pad not being inflated enough, having to camp out for weeks just to compete in season eight). This very last season he did very well and just tripped up on the Wingnut Gauntlet (which was also failed by the likes of Drechsel, Gil, Rahn, etc.). The fact that he helped start the sport and held a record up until six years ago is more than enough reason for him to still be invited for coming tournaments. Especially after the atrocity of season eight. I didn't say that he should be banned, and I'm not even opposed to an automatic invite. I just think his personal decision should be to hang it up, regardless of what ANW offers or doesn't offer him. |
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Post by matt723894 on Jan 15, 2018 19:27:19 GMT -5
I hate when people act like David is some kind of super old guy who's completely lost it when it comes to being good at ANW. He's just been extremely unlucky when it comes to this kind of stuff. In ANW 4 he fell on spinning bridge, which is a balance obstacle. In ANW 5 his shoes were slick so he missed the warped wall twice and timed out. In ANW 6 he was one of many members of Venice to fall victim to over inflated pad leap of faith obstacle. In ANW 7 he fell on the coin toss, again, not a balance obstacle. In ANW 8 he had to wait in multiple walk on lines and then run the course with a sprained ankle, and he messed up a dismount. In ANW 9 he cleared stage one (though his path to get there was admittedly quite rocky), and then proceeded to make it too the wing nuts with the rest of the elite competitors. None of these fails suggest anything about his decline, just that he is bad of doing balance obstacles at the end of stage one. Saying that he should "hang it up" is kind of insulting to his career and ignores the fact that many sasuke legends have had horrible slumps and bad luck (Shingo) and have came back to offer great performances. Is he going to achieve total victory? Probably not. But he is still capable of having many good seasons left.
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Post by arsenette on Jan 17, 2018 6:27:59 GMT -5
So they should ban him from competing simply because he hasn't had as much success of late? This is very untrue and he's actually done decently when you look at the circumstances (Silk Slider landing-pad not being inflated enough, having to camp out for weeks just to compete in season eight). This very last season he did very well and just tripped up on the Wingnut Gauntlet (which was also failed by the likes of Drechsel, Gil, Rahn, etc.). The fact that he helped start the sport and held a record up until six years ago is more than enough reason for him to still be invited for coming tournaments. Especially after the atrocity of season eight. I didn't say that he should be banned, and I'm not even opposed to an automatic invite. I just think his personal decision should be to hang it up, regardless of what ANW offers or doesn't offer him. He qualifies like everyone else. If he finds enjoyment let him decide when to hang it up. It's the same argument with the aging All-Stars in Japan. Remember the furor from fans when he had to qualify going a couple years ago having to go through TWO walk on lines. NBC remembers that. |
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Post by Messup434 on Jan 17, 2018 6:31:38 GMT -5
So they should ban him from competing simply because he hasn't had as much success of late? This is very untrue and he's actually done decently when you look at the circumstances (Silk Slider landing-pad not being inflated enough, having to camp out for weeks just to compete in season eight). This very last season he did very well and just tripped up on the Wingnut Gauntlet (which was also failed by the likes of Drechsel, Gil, Rahn, etc.). The fact that he helped start the sport and held a record up until six years ago is more than enough reason for him to still be invited for coming tournaments. Especially after the atrocity of season eight. I didn't say that he should be banned, and I'm not even opposed to an automatic invite. I just think his personal decision should be to hang it up, regardless of what ANW offers or doesn't offer him. Fair enough, it’s one of the things I just take so seriously having watched since the season where he was known as the best haha. I hope he at least has one more season before he quits though - maybe he’ll finally get to Stage Three on our Mount Midoriyama. |
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Post by gamer2k4 on Jan 18, 2018 13:21:11 GMT -5
He qualifies like everyone else. If he finds enjoyment let him decide when to hang it up. It's the same argument with the aging All-Stars in Japan. It's certainly the same as with the All-Stars, and yes, at the end of the day, all that matters is whether that individual wants to compete or not. Still, it's hard to look at someone like Yamada and not say, "Yeah, that guy probably shouldn't have been competing for the past several years." |
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Post by TCM on Jan 18, 2018 14:31:29 GMT -5
He qualifies like everyone else. If he finds enjoyment let him decide when to hang it up. It's the same argument with the aging All-Stars in Japan. It's certainly the same as with the All-Stars, and yes, at the end of the day, all that matters is whether that individual wants to compete or not. Still, it's hard to look at someone like Yamada and not say, "Yeah, that guy probably shouldn't have been competing for the past several years." Yamada's fall from grace would not be as dramatic as it was if he wasn't the personality he was. The little fame he acquired got to his head and made him entitled -- his abrasive nature and borderline unhealthy obsession with a game show alienated him from his family to the point only a select few could tolerate him. When you add in moments like snubbing Yuuji at Bug in Miki and his comments to question Yuuji's first win are proof he's not playing a character -- he actually is this insufferable of a man. He has a vague sense of self-awareness but not nearly enough to feel anything but pity. Most of Yamada's wounds are self-inflicted. Virtually no one has ever had a bad thing to say about David. His unfortunate luck in ANW is the closest anyone gets to gossip about him and it's usually exasperation about how this happens to a guy so beloved like him. But like was mentioned, his win in Vietnam shows the skill is still there. |
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Post by gamer2k4 on Jan 21, 2018 13:53:04 GMT -5
It's certainly the same as with the All-Stars, and yes, at the end of the day, all that matters is whether that individual wants to compete or not. Still, it's hard to look at someone like Yamada and not say, "Yeah, that guy probably shouldn't have been competing for the past several years." Yamada's fall from grace would not be as dramatic as it was if he wasn't the personality he was. The little fame he acquired got to his head and made him entitled -- his abrasive nature and borderline unhealthy obsession with a game show alienated him from his family to the point only a select few could tolerate him. When you add in moments like snubbing Yuuji at Bug in Miki and his comments to question Yuuji's first win are proof he's not playing a character -- he actually is this insufferable of a man. He has a vague sense of self-awareness but not nearly enough to feel anything but pity. Most of Yamada's wounds are self-inflicted. Virtually no one has ever had a bad thing to say about David. His unfortunate luck in ANW is the closest anyone gets to gossip about him and it's usually exasperation about how this happens to a guy so beloved like him. But like was mentioned, his win in Vietnam shows the skill is still there. Well, I used that example as someone who knows next to nothing about Yamada's personality, but just knew that he was a second/third/fourth stage guy until Sasuke 14. I don't care how someone acts; if they go from a consistent finalist to an incessant Stage 1 dropout, I'd say it's time to hang it up. |
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Post by TCM on Jan 21, 2018 23:56:32 GMT -5
Yamada's fall from grace would not be as dramatic as it was if he wasn't the personality he was. The little fame he acquired got to his head and made him entitled -- his abrasive nature and borderline unhealthy obsession with a game show alienated him from his family to the point only a select few could tolerate him. When you add in moments like snubbing Yuuji at Bug in Miki and his comments to question Yuuji's first win are proof he's not playing a character -- he actually is this insufferable of a man. He has a vague sense of self-awareness but not nearly enough to feel anything but pity. Most of Yamada's wounds are self-inflicted. Virtually no one has ever had a bad thing to say about David. His unfortunate luck in ANW is the closest anyone gets to gossip about him and it's usually exasperation about how this happens to a guy so beloved like him. But like was mentioned, his win in Vietnam shows the skill is still there. Well, I used that example as someone who knows next to nothing about Yamada's personality, but just knew that he was a second/third/fourth stage guy until Sasuke 14. I don't care how someone acts; if they go from a consistent finalist to an incessant Stage 1 dropout, I'd say it's time to hang it up. You're more than welcome to not care but you did use the one person whose personal life and in-show storyline were one in the same. His history is relevant in this scenario. No one else who fell off after their peak like he did ever came anything close to this point. They either got better or they faded away, mostly willingly. Okuyama and Bunpei left due to injury; Akiyama left because he was virtually blind. Nagano left because he finally stopped enjoying competing; Yuuji was literally just one more consecutive Stage One failure from retiring. Everyone else had the self-awareness to understand when they just didn't have it anymore. Yamada actively lacked it and it took a special occasion to temporarily mend the bridge he permanently burnt as a competitor. |
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