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Post by Steven π on Jun 30, 2017 9:50:44 GMT -5
(Idk where to put this in, General Ninja Warrior or General Sasuke so I picked Sasuke xD)
2017, the time Ninja Warrior appeared around the world like... idk how to describe it. But look at the list of all competition (include Sasuke&ANW):
Sasuke (JPN)
ANW (USA)
Ninja Warrior UK (Great Britian, Ireland , Scotland)
Ninja Warrior (Indonesia, Malaysia, Arab, Spain, Italia, Bahrain, Thailand, Australia,...)
Sasuke Vietnam (yes so proud as my country picked the name Sasuke not Ninja Warrior xD)
Ok, and is it really too much? We can look into it like this:
“Back in 2009, only two main shows are Sasuke and ANW”
“Now it’s 2017, idk how many there are out there tbh”
It has pros and cons too:
Pros: SMFers can appear in the spinoffs if they are not living in Japan/America.
Wide appearance means more people know about the show.
Cons: confusing people because of that widely.
The quality of spinoffs are really low (expect ANW)
Not having a main spirit of being a sport gameshow anymore (most of spinoffs see its as an entertainment show already, putting a course, open a trials, make them run in the course, inviting stars to be announcers just to gain popularity, which Sasuke pre-Rising era did really good)
So how do you feel about this? Leave a reply below and add @ + wharmy so I can know it easier.
Ps. You know why I didn’t include X-Sasuke of China
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jun 30, 2017 10:25:57 GMT -5
I don't mind the international spinoffs even if some of them are pretty terrible. Really we have too much being made in the US really, or at least that's how it feels at the moment since we've had Team Ninja Warrior, Celebrity Ninja Warrior, ANW USA vs The World finally airing from last year, and the main season of ANW starting, all of this in a short period of time
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Post by blah123 on Jun 30, 2017 13:01:58 GMT -5
It's bad mainly because of over-saturation (my favorite example of failure due to over-saturation is the Guitar Hero / Rock Band series). Then again, over-saturation doesn't have to be the death of you, as long as you manage it sustainably. The Idols TV series is, according to Wikipedia, the most popular/successful in TV history, yet is far far more saturated than ANW/Sasuke currently is (you could argue it's on the decline and only a matter of time until it's death, but there is no doubt it's been a huge success regardless of what happens). I think it will come down to the emotional-investment of casual viewers. If viewers are too confused to piece together which ninja shows belong to which season/region, people will not care whether contestants do well or not. And Rider has a good point in that it's probably more of an issue with intra-country shows rather than inter-country shows. It's hard for us die-hards to keep track of it all, but casual viewers in, say, America have no idea about Sasuke, much less Ninja Warrior Bahrain, and therefore will never confuse them for each other. Personally, I only follow ANW (the flagship show, not the spinoffs) and Sasuke, and could care less about the others. I mean, the others are probably great and have great contestants, but I can only follow so much. So they can come and go as they please; I don't really consider this good or bad. |
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Post by finsasuke on Jun 30, 2017 21:23:21 GMT -5
Well, only shows i watch related to obstacle based shows are SASUKE(suprise suprise), Viking, kunoichi and occasionally ANW, those smaller scale versions tend to be really booring and repetitive
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Post by skythenewark on Jul 12, 2017 18:28:52 GMT -5
I don't mind about it, I rarely watched the spinoff shows, but I can tell their getting a lot of support from it. Still won't forget David Campbell's Run in Vietnam 2. And plus, idc if we have spinoffs or not, what I'm waiting for is when the hell there will be a South Korean spinoff?  |
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Post by thatoneuser on Jul 12, 2017 18:55:39 GMT -5
And plus, idc if we have spinoffs or not, what I'm waiting for is when the hell there will be a South Korean spinoff? I mean, you guys have Dream Team, close enough |
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Post by 2D2Will on Jul 12, 2017 22:32:49 GMT -5
And plus, idc if we have spinoffs or not, what I'm waiting for is when the hell there will be a South Korean spinoff? I mean, you guys have Dream Team, close enough Unfortunately, Dream Team is done. www.allkpop.com/article/2016/05/lets-go-dream-team-season-2-ends-after-7-yearsI don't think it's fair to say there's too many spinoffs simply because we're looking at the Ninja Warrior/Sasuke scene from a very different point of view. Most people only watch the version of Ninja Warrior that's produced in their country and maybe the Japanese original. There are very few people outside of these forums that will attempt to watch every version of the show from the entire world. If anything, we have choices. Find the flavor of Sasuke you like and enjoy it. |
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Post by Steven π on Jul 12, 2017 23:53:31 GMT -5
What I’m really wonder is North Korea and China ones. Buy the license this time please *cough*
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 0:50:03 GMT -5
Any country I think of has a spinoff (Canada, France, Spain, Australia, Germany, China, etc.)
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Post by lostinube on Jul 13, 2017 2:31:42 GMT -5
How recognizable is the SASUKE brand itself in South Korea, a country that has a general ban on Japanese TV? Sure, people can see it on the internet but most countries that end up with a SASUKE/NW franchise had some kind of terrestrial TV presence. If anything, it would get into the country via the popularity of ANW.
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Post by Steven π on Jul 14, 2017 10:21:38 GMT -5
Any country I think of has a spinoff (Canada, France, Spain, Australia, Germany, China, etc.) Not North Korea xD |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 10:46:12 GMT -5
Any country I think of has a spinoff (Canada, France, Spain, Australia, Germany, China, etc.) Not North Korea xD Of course not North Korea |
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 14, 2017 11:21:40 GMT -5
Of course not North Korea I mean they might have one, except it's probably not called "Sasuke" or "Ninja Warrior" it's just called "Fearless Leader's Physical Challenge Course" |
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Post by thatoneuser on Jul 14, 2017 11:31:06 GMT -5
Of course not North Korea I mean they might have one, except it's probably not called "Sasuke" or "Ninja Warrior" it's just called "Fearless Leader's Physical Challenge Course" But no one can complete it (besides Fearless Leader himself obviously) because the peasants don't have enough food |
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Post by Mappyon on Jul 31, 2017 4:30:57 GMT -5
Why is this question asked like it's a bad thing that so many countries are hopping on the Sasuke train? Shouldn't people have the right to have it in their (neighbouring) countries/available in their language because they can't deal with looking for ways to watch shows in languages they might not be fluent in and that are not necessarily that easy to find.
First seasons in new places will always lack some of the quality previous versions have right now but it's not unfixable, NW France felt pretty cringey to me last year but they changed stuff this year and I found it nicer although it still needs bettering (move the hosts, lower the time limits).
I don't think it's too much if a show is licensed in lots of countries, nobody cares about Idol or Masterchef having local versions all over the world. It's too much, imo, when you reach a stage where there are multiples of the same concept within one place, we don't need every channel to have it's own talent search/cooking competition/big brother-ish show and their spin-offs.
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Post by Philip on Jul 31, 2017 12:00:58 GMT -5
My problem with the Euro spinoffs is how cookie cutter s*** is. It's the same exact show in different places.
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Post by Mappyon on Jul 31, 2017 15:12:25 GMT -5
But so are other reality competition shows, and if you just take one local version of any of these shows, it's the exact same thing in the exact same place every single season only with a different cast.
Being a fan of something doesn't mean you have to buy/play/watch (and like) every new version of it but chances are you'll keep seeing more of the same at some point anyway.
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Post by Steven π on Aug 1, 2017 0:50:04 GMT -5
My problem with the Euro spinoffs is how cookie cutter s*** is. It's the same exact show in different places. If we are taking into grouping show then... GROUP 1: Original based Japan, America (Vegas), Vietnam GROUP 2: ANW based Rest of world xD GROUP 3: not licensed but still host China |
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Post by Mk20SSR on Aug 1, 2017 1:34:22 GMT -5
My problem with the Euro spinoffs is how cookie cutter s*** is. It's the same exact show in different places. If we are taking into grouping show then... GROUP 1: Original based Japan, America (Vegas), Vietnam GROUP 2: ANW based Rest of world xD GROUP 3: not licensed but still host China Singapore/Malaysia wants to have a word with you. |
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Post by Steven π on Aug 1, 2017 10:19:26 GMT -5
If we are taking into grouping show then... GROUP 1: Original based Japan, America (Vegas), Vietnam GROUP 2: ANW based Rest of world xD GROUP 3: not licensed but still host China Singapore/Malaysia wants to have a word with you. GROUP 4: short-lived or “park” Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Bahrain (via a YTer I know this) |
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