ouchthathurtstv
Nomura Masaki
20%
You don't have to be an adult to be a SASUKE champion!
Posts: 72
|
Post by ouchthathurtstv on Jun 7, 2009 12:14:28 GMT -5
I think so his prime was in SASUKE 11-17 since then he has been going downhill except 21 What about 18 and 20? 19 was a fluke and there was too much pressure on him for 22
|
|
|
Post by The Chief on Jun 7, 2009 12:23:58 GMT -5
18- Cliff Hanger(very good) 19- Flying Chute(along with like everyone else, remember, they had to nerf that because it was too hard) 20- Downhill Jump(didn't get a good start) 21- Gliding Ring(extremely good) 22- Slider Jump(only 10 people beat that...)
|
|
|
Post by Oti on Jun 7, 2009 12:50:14 GMT -5
Just because Nagano is messing up doesn't mean he's not capable of doing the obstacles. There's a difference between making mistakes and not being able to.
Look at Nagano. He flies through the course faster than 98% of the people there and conquers every obstacle quickly and efficiently. Unless he makes a mistake.
It's like saying Shingo is past his prime. Of course he's not. He's young and still in amazing shape. When was the last time he didn't make a dumb mistake on stage one, though? I can't remember.
So Shingo can make mistakes all the time but because Nagano is older, his mistakes mean he has to be put out to the pasture? That's not very fair at all.
And in 22, I believe the pressure was off him because he said something like, "Well, everyone else already failed, it's ok if I fail too."
I THINK.
|
|
ouchthathurtstv
Nomura Masaki
20%
You don't have to be an adult to be a SASUKE champion!
Posts: 72
|
Post by ouchthathurtstv on Jun 7, 2009 12:58:54 GMT -5
The pressure was on him because he was the last remaining all star.
I THINK.
|
|
|
Post by sasukefan683 on Jun 7, 2009 13:21:36 GMT -5
Oti, I think you are referring to what Nagano-san said during his last radio interview...a translation was posted on another site by a lady in Japan who knows him... www.webjam.com/sasukefans/$forum/~ViewTopic?id=be949e55-8b9b-4941-8878-944defbea222&page=1She says in the interview he says "This Sasuke, the All-stars are all eliminated before my turn. I was so nervous going into it. Then I thought “Oh well, if everyone fell in, it’s okay this time if I do too.”
|
|
|
Post by sasukefan683 on Jun 7, 2009 13:22:50 GMT -5
sorry my whole link doesn't go but it takes you to the site where it is posted in their forum threads...I don't know how to fix the link...sorry
|
|
|
Post by Badalight on Jun 7, 2009 13:25:46 GMT -5
I think Nagano is past his prime. That doesn't mean he's going to instantly do bad, it's just I think his best is behind him. He'll still consistantly do good as shown, I just think his prime was around when he won at Sasuke 17.
With his hospital visit, and his new marriage and baby, I think he'll start his downfall.
Making this clear, I'm not syaing Nagano is going to start doing bad, I just think his absolute prime when he was at his very best is behind him. saying he's not past his prime means he's still able to improve which I don't see.
As for who is past theri prime, I'd say Akiyama, Yamada, and Bunpei all are. Bunpei is getting to many injuries and is getting old. Akiyama blindness is getting worse, and Yamada's mental state and his age are affecting him.
|
|
|
Post by The Chief on Jun 7, 2009 13:27:22 GMT -5
and he won't be able to train as much because he'll be raising a baby.
|
|
|
Post by Oti on Jun 7, 2009 13:44:24 GMT -5
Actually, if he continues his job as a fisherman, he'll still be out on the water most of the year.
Unless he has special arrangements, or something.
|
|
|
Post by sasukefan683 on Jun 7, 2009 13:44:39 GMT -5
His job will still keep him out at sea and away from home as much as it normally does so his wife will essentially be raising the baby and his job requires him to be fit in general which is to his benefit for Sasuke...I'm not sure how much he actually "trains" for Sasuke except that I seem to remember somewhere reading that he runs a lot when he has the opportunity to do so. I don't think he is past his prime yet I still think he can complete all stages.
|
|
|
Post by BLM on Jun 7, 2009 14:35:25 GMT -5
I am just saying that he is not doing as good as he used to like making it to the final stage
|
|
|
Post by The Chief on Jun 7, 2009 14:42:22 GMT -5
there's a very good reason for that...the course is harder...there is a reason we had to wait 5 competitions to see some one make it there.
|
|
Anshin
Nakata Daisuke
Retired Staff
Retired Staff
Posts: 949
|
Post by Anshin on Jun 7, 2009 16:22:25 GMT -5
Nagano: - I'd say that his prime, in the sense that his absolute best, is behind him; but that's not to say he's not going to continue doing very well. I have a feeling that he's still got alot going for himself; he's definitely got alot energy and potential to continue going strong for a long time.
Takeda: - Takeda is still one of the strongest all-stars in my opinion. He's still young and full of lots of energy. I wouldn't say that he's past his prime, but it's certainly coming within the next few years. Even as one of the toughest competitors, not reaching the final stage might be taking a toll on him mentally.
Yamamoto: - I've noticed that Shingo hasn't been doing so well over the past few years, but that's not to say that he's past his prime either. He's still got alot going for him, and I still think he has the potential to make it to the final stage again in the future. Just needs to take it easy and maintain his balance =/
Shiratori: - He's certainly got his age and body working against him, but his perserverance is certainly one of the strengths that keeps him going. I've always seen Shiratori as having major issues in competing with all of the issues that his body produces. I believe he's past his prime as well; though I also forsee that he's not going to last much longer in terms of his great performances as an all-star.
Akiyama: - Unfortunately, I forsee his degenerative eyesight as his major downfall. I would say that he is also past his prime, but that's also not to say that he's not a strong competitor. I forsee him doing well in the future, but not to the peak of the abilities he was once able to conjure up.
Yamada: - I think that Yamada is past his prime. I've noticed in recent competitions that his major problem is that he takes his time between the actual obstacles themselves; like, he's not pushing himself to try to complete the stage faster. He might be reserving his energy, which isn't a bad thing, but his little jog while taking his time is certainly hurting him time wise. I don't think his age has anything to do with it, as he's certainly fit enough physically, but the mental capacity and speed limitations he sets on himself are posing problems.
|
|
|
Post by Oti on Jun 7, 2009 17:03:00 GMT -5
I don't know about Akiyama. He came back out of nowhere and did well on the course.
I remember when he "retired" because the course got harder and he simply wasn't that good compared to it. To come back out of the blue in the 20th competition and do as well as he did makes me think he has a lot more to give.
I also don't believe his eye condition is that bad. Every time he fails, people say things like, "Well, he is practically blind...", etc.. Even if he is, that doesn't seem to hurt him much. Only in the dark has it ever really killed him.
|
|
|
Post by The Chief on Jun 7, 2009 17:31:50 GMT -5
and his fail in 22 was just an unfortunate slip off the platform...
|
|
|
Post by Homeslice on Jun 7, 2009 19:31:21 GMT -5
Yeah, if not for his bobble there, Akiyama could've made it past Stage 1, probably. If anything, he moved on the Jumping Spider faster than Nagano did, so he likely had more time to play with. The Warped Wall hasn't been kind to him in the past, but if he returns next time, I think he'll be more determined.
|
|
|
Post by Badalight on Jun 7, 2009 19:54:23 GMT -5
His fail in 22 could have been because his bad eyes aswell... maybe his depth perception is screwwed up so he thought the platform was longer. I realyl doubt it was just a silly mistake like Shingo's fail was.
Trust me, depth percetpion can be pretty big thing on the course. Not to mention if his eyes are anything like mine it must be really hard for him to grab onto ropes and stuff. They'll be appear incredibly blurry, maybe he'll be seeing double. Who knows.
But bad vision can really hurt you. Only thing is, he can't simply put on glasses or contacts and fix his vision like I can.
|
|
|
Post by Oti on Jun 7, 2009 20:01:17 GMT -5
Don't tell me about depth perception. The Pipe Slider in Santa Monica sneaked up on you so fast...
|
|
|
Post by Homeslice on Jun 7, 2009 20:44:16 GMT -5
Now now....
Anyway, if things are getting so bad for Akiyama that he can't see in the daylight, Houston, we've truly got a problem here.
The sad thing is, it only gets worse for him, I understand. Let's hope there's still something left in him next time!
|
|
lars072
Jessie Graff
10%
Posts: 1,001
|
Post by lars072 on Jun 9, 2009 6:40:25 GMT -5
For those people who say Nagano is past his prime....he may very well prove you wrong in the future. He hasn't done as well as in the past and his age and new family will be distractions. But I wouldn't put it past him to become a champion again. If you had to put money on one person, wouldn't it be him?
|
|