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Post by PsychoDelusion on Apr 3, 2017 17:07:35 GMT -5
I was watching SASUKE 33 again the other day and I noticed that Wataru used his legs to stand on the Salmon Ladder Nobori and change to the Salmon Ladder Kudari. Shouldn't this get him disqualified? (Similar to the DSQ in SASUKE 23)
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Apr 3, 2017 17:45:03 GMT -5
Good catch, but maybe a little too good. It's so minimal that I doubt anybody noticed or cared. His foot hits it for a second at most and I don't think it really mattered. I know it's still "against the rules", but the obstacle is kind of poorly designed anyway. I think this could had happened to anybody on accident.
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Post by TCM on Apr 3, 2017 18:22:33 GMT -5
It seemed pretty innocuous and given how little room you have there, it seemed incidental anyways. His motion wasn't stopped by it like when people have been DQ'd in the past. And there's just the chance that no one noticed, because I sure didn't when watching.
Even if they did catch it, they reserve the right to wait until the end like with Yamada in 12 and that was much more blatant. Doesn't matter anyways since he never cleared so that awkward confrontation didn't need to happen. And of course, given it's only been a couple of years, remember that Anastase illegally jumped from the top of Rolling Hill and (largely based on the fact they didn't have a French speaker on their actual payroll) let him continue only for him to clear.
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Apr 3, 2017 18:47:49 GMT -5
*Yamada in 13? He wasn't even there in 13! O.O*
I don't think they minded since he didn't clear anyway so no harm no foul.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Apr 3, 2017 19:23:09 GMT -5
On the subject of should have been DQ'd, Takeru's safety line save
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Post by Eclipse on Apr 4, 2017 14:03:19 GMT -5
On the subject of should have been DQ'd, Takeru's safety line save Given the issues he was having in general it was pretty obvious he had no shot at clearing anyway, so therefore it wouldn't have been worth DQing his run short
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Post by PsychoDelusion on Apr 4, 2017 15:14:39 GMT -5
It seemed pretty innocuous and given how little room you have there, it seemed incidental anyways. His motion wasn't stopped by it like when people have been DQ'd in the past. And there's just the chance that no one noticed, because I sure didn't when watching. Even if they did catch it, they reserve the right to wait until the end like with Yamada in 12 and that was much more blatant. Doesn't matter anyways since he never cleared so that awkward confrontation didn't need to happen. And of course, given it's only been a couple of years, remember that Anastase illegally jumped from the top of Rolling Hill and (largely based on the fact they didn't have a French speaker on their actual payroll) let him continue only for him to clear. Takeda did the same thing with his right foot and it seemed incidental indeeed. He took it off the sides and made the change successfully. Mori seems to look down for a little bit, he places his feet on the sides and makes the change. Maybe they told them it was ok, maybe not. I don't want to sound mean because I really like the guy but it just seemed weird. When it comes to Takeru's run, I don't get why they put safety lines in the Salmon Ladder. It's pretty useless considering that the bar only goes upwards and downwards. Does anyone remember the way Kaneko Yusuke failed the DSL in SASUKE 27? If the bar had safety lines this would be a painful failure to say the least.
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Post by TCM on Apr 4, 2017 17:36:02 GMT -5
It seemed pretty innocuous and given how little room you have there, it seemed incidental anyways. His motion wasn't stopped by it like when people have been DQ'd in the past. And there's just the chance that no one noticed, because I sure didn't when watching. Even if they did catch it, they reserve the right to wait until the end like with Yamada in 12 and that was much more blatant. Doesn't matter anyways since he never cleared so that awkward confrontation didn't need to happen. And of course, given it's only been a couple of years, remember that Anastase illegally jumped from the top of Rolling Hill and (largely based on the fact they didn't have a French speaker on their actual payroll) let him continue only for him to clear. Takeda did the same thing with his right foot and it seemed incidental indeeed. He took it off the sides and made the change successfully. Mori seems to look down for a little bit, he places his feet on the sides and makes the change. Maybe they told them it was ok, maybe not. I don't want to sound mean because I really like the guy but it just seemed weird. When it comes to Takeru's run, I don't get why they put safety lines in the Salmon Ladder. It's pretty useless considering that the bar only goes upwards and downwards. Does anyone remember the way Kaneko Yusuke failed the DSL in SASUKE 27? If the bar had safety lines this would be a painful failure to say the least. The lines on the bar are just because it's a pain fishing the bar out of the water, and it's going straight in a single direction as opposed to an angle. A safety line on the DSL wouldn't work. But if the bar is only relevant to its specific set of notches, it's easier to handle.
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Apr 4, 2017 19:25:27 GMT -5
Takeda did the same thing with his right foot and it seemed incidental indeeed. He took it off the sides and made the change successfully. Mori seems to look down for a little bit, he places his feet on the sides and makes the change. Maybe they told them it was ok, maybe not. I don't want to sound mean because I really like the guy but it just seemed weird. When it comes to Takeru's run, I don't get why they put safety lines in the Salmon Ladder. It's pretty useless considering that the bar only goes upwards and downwards. Does anyone remember the way Kaneko Yusuke failed the DSL in SASUKE 27? If the bar had safety lines this would be a painful failure to say the least. The lines on the bar are just because it's a pain fishing the bar out of the water, and it's going straight in a single direction as opposed to an angle. A safety line on the DSL wouldn't work. But if the bar is only relevant to its specific set of notches, it's easier to handle. Safety line on bar wouldn't work on DSL? What?
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Post by Steven π on Apr 5, 2017 8:38:42 GMT -5
The lines on the bar are just because it's a pain fishing the bar out of the water, and it's going straight in a single direction as opposed to an angle. A safety line on the DSL wouldn't work. But if the bar is only relevant to its specific set of notches, it's easier to handle. Safety line on bar wouldn't work on DSL? What? Imagine you stuck mid-air while you are transition from the 5th notch to the 6 notch (or the first notch in the opposite)
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Apr 5, 2017 8:43:30 GMT -5
Safety line on bar wouldn't work on DSL? What? Imagine you stuck mid-air while you are transition from the 5th notch to the 6 notch (or the first notch in the opposite) Doesn't ANW use a safety line on their DSLs? Also every training gym I've been to has had one. I don't know.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Apr 5, 2017 9:10:39 GMT -5
Imagine you stuck mid-air while you are transition from the 5th notch to the 6 notch (or the first notch in the opposite) Doesn't ANW use a safety line on their DSLs? Also every training gym I've been to has had one. I don't know. Safety line is kind of a stretch, ANW has a retrieval line thing when they had the DSL, it had set of pulley kind of oddly in front of the 2nd set slightly and it went down far enough no one could be aided by it and it could go in the water. Also ANW's safety line in the regional Salmon Ladders go down far enough that when they're not on any notches they fall a notch distance down below the bottom rung so someone can't Takeru it. Also because the bar is hollow and the line goes through it they specifically tell you NOT to hang on if it's held up by the wires since that could easily damage the bar
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Post by UnrealCanine on Apr 5, 2017 17:36:29 GMT -5
The lines on the bar are just because it's a pain fishing the bar out of the water, and it's going straight in a single direction as opposed to an angle. A safety line on the DSL wouldn't work. But if the bar is only relevant to its specific set of notches, it's easier to handle. Safety line on bar wouldn't work on DSL? What? They can't have a safety line or this would happen
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