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Post by skythenewark on Apr 14, 2017 2:33:46 GMT -5
*This is the first time anyone besides Nagano has been Last Man Standing in consecutive tournaments. *This is the first time a non-All Star has been Last Man Standing more than once. *Drew holds the record for most consecutive 3rd Stage attempts by a foreigner, at 4. *Drew tied the record for most 3rd Stage attempts by an American, at 4. *This is the first time a competitor has done worse in their second consecutive tournament of being Last Man Standing. *This is the first time an American has failed the Cliffhanger after beating it. *This is the first time post-Nagano's kanzenseiha an American has done better than all champions. *This is the second time an American has been Last Man Standing in an anniversary tournament. First time Anyone besides Nagano being LMS? Pretty sure there are tournaments way before he started competing. This is also not the first time a "Non All-Star" has been the Last man standing more than once. Why do people always forget Akira Omori?
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Post by Miko on Apr 14, 2017 2:41:41 GMT -5
*This is the first time anyone besides Nagano has been Last Man Standing in consecutive tournaments. *This is the first time a non-All Star has been Last Man Standing more than once. *Drew holds the record for most consecutive 3rd Stage attempts by a foreigner, at 4. *Drew tied the record for most 3rd Stage attempts by an American, at 4. *This is the first time a competitor has done worse in their second consecutive tournament of being Last Man Standing. *This is the first time an American has failed the Cliffhanger after beating it. *This is the first time post-Nagano's kanzenseiha an American has done better than all champions. *This is the second time an American has been Last Man Standing in an anniversary tournament. Let's see, emm, on second one Lee En Chi already did that in 25 and 26 (and of course Omori Akira), don't know how you count it but clearly Nagano did worse in 13 than in 12 and Meeuwenberg in 20 went further than all champions. Unless you have some more specific facts, these mentioned ones are incorrect. EDIT: You mean on second to last one that American has gone there where no champion hasn't at overall? If so, that's just stupid fact
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Post by UnrealCanine on Apr 14, 2017 6:11:00 GMT -5
If by LMS, you mean best result, Yuuji also technically counts for 27 and 28
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Post by TCM on Apr 14, 2017 8:00:46 GMT -5
*This is the first time anyone besides Nagano has been Last Man Standing in consecutive tournaments. ( The show considers Last Man Standing aka Final Contender the last person to attempt the course in a tournament. Omori (1-3), Nagano (11-14, 16-17) and Kanno (28-29) have been LMS in consecutive tournements. Nagano is the only one to do this in more than one set.) *This is the first time a non-All Star has been Last Man Standing more than once. (Omori, Yuuji, Okuyama and Kanno) *This is the first time a competitor has done worse in their second consecutive tournament of being Last Man Standing. (Going by the set qualification of LMS, this fact doesn't apply. Kawaguchi was the LMS in 32, and Morimoto in 33) *This is the first time post-Nagano's kanzenseiha an American has done better than all champions. (It's happened in 20, 22, 25, 26, 30, 32, and 33. Levi was the only person to make it to Stage 3 in 20. Akiyama failed the Half-Pipe Attack and Nagano failed the Downhill Jump. Campbell in 22 made it to the Rope Ladder. Akiyama failed the Half-Pipe Attack and Nagano failed the Slider Jump. Orosco in 25 made it to Stage 3. Akiyama failed the Soritatsu Kabe, Nagano failed the Circle Slider and Yuuji failed the Double Salmon Ladder. 5 Americans -- Kasemir, Brent, Furlanic, David, Brian made it to Stage 2 in 26. Nagano and Yuuji both failed Stage 1. Drew has done so in 30 (Stage 3, Yuuji and Nagano failed Stage 2), 32 (Stage 3, Yuuji and Nagano failed Stage 1) and 33.) *This is the second time an American has been Last Man Standing in an anniversary tournament. (Only Levi still holds this. Drew has never been the last competitor remaining.)
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Post by SasukeSprinter2.0 on Apr 14, 2017 13:27:51 GMT -5
*This is the first time anyone besides Nagano has been Last Man Standing in consecutive tournaments. *This is the first time a non-All Star has been Last Man Standing more than once. *Drew holds the record for most consecutive 3rd Stage attempts by a foreigner, at 4. *Drew tied the record for most 3rd Stage attempts by an American, at 4. *This is the first time a competitor has done worse in their second consecutive tournament of being Last Man Standing. *This is the first time an American has failed the Cliffhanger after beating it. *This is the first time post-Nagano's kanzenseiha an American has done better than all champions. *This is the second time an American has been Last Man Standing in an anniversary tournament. Let's see, emm, on second one Lee En Chi already did that in 25 and 26 (and of course Omori Akira), don't know how you count it but clearly Nagano did worse in 13 than in 12 and Meeuwenberg in 20 went further than all champions. Unless you have some more specific facts, these mentioned ones are incorrect. EDIT: You mean on second to last one that American has gone there where no champion hasn't at overall? If so, that's just stupid fact I meant post-Yuuji's kanzenseiha.
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Post by TCM on Apr 14, 2017 21:59:08 GMT -5
Let's see, emm, on second one Lee En Chi already did that in 25 and 26 (and of course Omori Akira), don't know how you count it but clearly Nagano did worse in 13 than in 12 and Meeuwenberg in 20 went further than all champions. Unless you have some more specific facts, these mentioned ones are incorrect. EDIT: You mean on second to last one that American has gone there where no champion hasn't at overall? If so, that's just stupid fact I meant post-Yuuji's kanzenseiha. *This is the first time anyone besides Nagano has been Last Man Standing in consecutive tournaments. ( The show considers Last Man Standing aka Final Contender the last person to attempt the course in a tournament. Omori (1-3), Nagano (11-14, 16-17) and Kanno (28-29) have been LMS in consecutive tournements. Nagano is the only one to do this in more than one set.) *This is the first time a non-All Star has been Last Man Standing more than once. (Omori, Yuuji, Okuyama and Kanno) *This is the first time a competitor has done worse in their second consecutive tournament of being Last Man Standing. (Going by the set qualification of LMS, this fact doesn't apply. Kawaguchi was the LMS in 32, and Morimoto in 33) *This is the first time post-Nagano's kanzenseiha an American has done better than all champions. (It's happened in 20, 22, 25, 26, 30, 32, and 33. Levi was the only person to make it to Stage 3 in 20. Akiyama failed the Half-Pipe Attack and Nagano failed the Downhill Jump. Campbell in 22 made it to the Rope Ladder. Akiyama failed the Half-Pipe Attack and Nagano failed the Slider Jump. Orosco in 25 made it to Stage 3. Akiyama failed the Soritatsu Kabe, Nagano failed the Circle Slider and Yuuji failed the Double Salmon Ladder. 5 Americans -- Kasemir, Brent, Furlanic, David, Brian made it to Stage 2 in 26. Nagano and Yuuji both failed Stage 1. Drew has done so in 30 (Stage 3, Yuuji and Nagano failed Stage 2), 32 (Stage 3, Yuuji and Nagano failed Stage 1) and 33.) *This is the second time an American has been Last Man Standing in an anniversary tournament. (Only Levi still holds this. Drew has never been the last competitor remaining.)
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Post by SasukeSprinter2.0 on Apr 15, 2017 15:45:12 GMT -5
I meant post-Yuuji's kanzenseiha. *This is the first time anyone besides Nagano has been Last Man Standing in consecutive tournaments. ( The show considers Last Man Standing aka Final Contender the last person to attempt the course in a tournament. Omori (1-3), Nagano (11-14, 16-17) and Kanno (28-29) have been LMS in consecutive tournements. Nagano is the only one to do this in more than one set.) *This is the first time a non-All Star has been Last Man Standing more than once. (Omori, Yuuji, Okuyama and Kanno) *This is the first time a competitor has done worse in their second consecutive tournament of being Last Man Standing. (Going by the set qualification of LMS, this fact doesn't apply. Kawaguchi was the LMS in 32, and Morimoto in 33) *This is the first time post-Nagano's kanzenseiha an American has done better than all champions. (It's happened in 20, 22, 25, 26, 30, 32, and 33. Levi was the only person to make it to Stage 3 in 20. Akiyama failed the Half-Pipe Attack and Nagano failed the Downhill Jump. Campbell in 22 made it to the Rope Ladder. Akiyama failed the Half-Pipe Attack and Nagano failed the Slider Jump. Orosco in 25 made it to Stage 3. Akiyama failed the Soritatsu Kabe, Nagano failed the Circle Slider and Yuuji failed the Double Salmon Ladder. 5 Americans -- Kasemir, Brent, Furlanic, David, Brian made it to Stage 2 in 26. Nagano and Yuuji both failed Stage 1. Drew has done so in 30 (Stage 3, Yuuji and Nagano failed Stage 2), 32 (Stage 3, Yuuji and Nagano failed Stage 1) and 33.) *This is the second time an American has been Last Man Standing in an anniversary tournament. (Only Levi still holds this. Drew has never been the last competitor remaining.) I prefer to use the term Last Man Standing to refer to the best-performing competitor.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Apr 15, 2017 15:58:04 GMT -5
I prefer to use the term Last Man Standing to refer to the best-performing competitor. Well... If you decide to use incorrect terminology and someone calls you out for blatantly incorrect "trivia" that's your own problem then
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Apr 15, 2017 16:27:57 GMT -5
I prefer to use the term Last Man Standing to refer to the best-performing competitor. Well... If you decide to use incorrect terminology and someone calls you out for blatantly incorrect "trivia" that's your own problem then It's a phrase that shouldn't had been introduced to Sasuke in the first place. It doesn't make sense to have it when the system is based on using a semi-arbitrary numbering system and turns to run the course, when ultimately the *best* performance is the most impressive. Not sure why it was ever "officially" used, although it is the Japanese using an English phrase. Anyway the point is it's confusing why it's even present in Sasuke, so don't be so brazen to defend it when most are confused as to what it means in the first place.
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Post by SasukeSprinter2.0 on Apr 15, 2017 16:35:22 GMT -5
I prefer to use the term Last Man Standing to refer to the best-performing competitor. Well... If you decide to use incorrect terminology and someone calls you out for blatantly incorrect "trivia" that's your own problem then Never said it was a problem; I'm simply justifying what I said.
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Post by TCM on Apr 15, 2017 17:03:19 GMT -5
Well... If you decide to use incorrect terminology and someone calls you out for blatantly incorrect "trivia" that's your own problem then It's a phrase that shouldn't had been introduced to Sasuke in the first place. It doesn't make sense to have it when the system is based on using a semi-arbitrary numbering system and turns to run the course, when ultimately the *best* performance is the most impressive. Not sure why it was ever "officially" used, although it is the Japanese using an English phrase. Anyway the point is it's confusing why it's even present in Sasuke, so don't be so brazen to defend it when most are confused as to what it means in the first place. The specific phrase the show has used is Final Contender, that's what was on official Sasuke merchandise. While Last Man Standing is incredibly similar, it's just a generic phrase that at some point fans adopted to use but the actual definition of the phrase itself still lends itself to being more on the lines of "Final Contender". Only ten times was the best result in that tournament not also the last person to attempt the course for that tournament. The confusion is more brought on by the fans themselves. If people aren't aware of the merch, that's fine, but the inklings of what the show believes are there. Well... If you decide to use incorrect terminology and someone calls you out for blatantly incorrect "trivia" that's your own problem then Never said it was a problem; I'm simply justifying what I said. You can justify it however you wish, but if this is a thread about facts, yours are not facts. Because by actual show decree (final contender = last to attempt the course), they're inaccurate. Even removing the LMS talk from the discussion, you meant to say "This is the first time post-Yuuji's kanzenseiha an American has done better than all champions." That's still wrong. Brian Orosco (twice), Paul Kasemir, Brent Steffensen, Travis Furlanic and David Campbell each performed better than all available champions who competed before Drew ever did. And Drew even did it three times by the time you said he did it for the first time.
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Post by SasukeSprinter2.0 on Apr 16, 2017 12:04:27 GMT -5
It's a phrase that shouldn't had been introduced to Sasuke in the first place. It doesn't make sense to have it when the system is based on using a semi-arbitrary numbering system and turns to run the course, when ultimately the *best* performance is the most impressive. Not sure why it was ever "officially" used, although it is the Japanese using an English phrase. Anyway the point is it's confusing why it's even present in Sasuke, so don't be so brazen to defend it when most are confused as to what it means in the first place. The specific phrase the show has used is Final Contender, that's what was on official Sasuke merchandise. While Last Man Standing is incredibly similar, it's just a generic phrase that at some point fans adopted to use but the actual definition of the phrase itself still lends itself to being more on the lines of "Final Contender". Only ten times was the best result in that tournament not also the last person to attempt the course for that tournament. The confusion is more brought on by the fans themselves. If people aren't aware of the merch, that's fine, but the inklings of what the show believes are there. Never said it was a problem; I'm simply justifying what I said. You can justify it however you wish, but if this is a thread about facts, yours are not facts. Because by actual show decree (final contender = last to attempt the course), they're inaccurate. Even removing the LMS talk from the discussion, you meant to say "This is the first time post-Yuuji's kanzenseiha an American has done better than all champions." That's still wrong. Brian Orosco (twice), Paul Kasemir, Brent Steffensen, Travis Furlanic and David Campbell each performed better than all available champions who competed before Drew ever did. And Drew even did it three times by the time you said he did it for the first time. My apologies, it IS incorrect. Although, the rest are still correct as far as I know.
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Post by yamfriend on Apr 16, 2017 12:47:21 GMT -5
Takeda failed Stage 2 for the fifth time, with each one of these failures being his first attempt at Stage 2 in each of the 5 respective eras in which he has competed:
Stage 2, Attempt #1/Failure #1: SASUKE 5 (first attempt in era 2: 5-17) Stage 2, Attempt #12/Failure #2: SASUKE 18 (first attempt in era 3: 18-24) Stage 2, Attempt #16/Failure #3: SASUKE 25 (first attempt in era 4: 25-27) Stage 2, Attempt #17/Failure #4: SASUKE 30 (first attempt in era 5: 28-31) Stage 2, Attempt #18/Failure #5: SASUKE 33 (first attempt in era 6: 32-present)
It's also interesting to note that Takeda's most recent three Stage 2 attempts occurred while wearing #70, #80, and #90, respectively.
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Apr 16, 2017 13:29:53 GMT -5
^ And they were all on obstacles that he'd attempted for the first time.
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Apr 16, 2017 13:47:10 GMT -5
Nagano has attempted the final stage 5 times Shingo has attempted the final stage 2 times Yamada has attempted the final stage 1 time. Akiyama has attempted the final stage 1 time. Bunpei has attempted the final stage 1 time. Takeda has attempted the final stage 0 times.
This creates a sequence of 0,1,1,1,2,5. If one of those 1's were changed to a 3 (i.e., if either Yamada, Akiyama, Bunpei had completed Stage 3 just 2 more times), we would have had an All-Star Fibonnaci sequence of 0,1,1,2,3,5. Actually we can exclude Akiyama from this since he only failed it once. So either Yamada or Bunpei needed to clear it 2 more times. What hurts is that they got so bloody close each time.
Therefore this proves that the Pipe Slider is the most evil obstacle of all time. It ruined a potential Fibonnaci sequence.
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Post by TCM on Apr 16, 2017 14:51:07 GMT -5
The specific phrase the show has used is Final Contender, that's what was on official Sasuke merchandise. While Last Man Standing is incredibly similar, it's just a generic phrase that at some point fans adopted to use but the actual definition of the phrase itself still lends itself to being more on the lines of "Final Contender". Only ten times was the best result in that tournament not also the last person to attempt the course for that tournament. The confusion is more brought on by the fans themselves. If people aren't aware of the merch, that's fine, but the inklings of what the show believes are there. You can justify it however you wish, but if this is a thread about facts, yours are not facts. Because by actual show decree (final contender = last to attempt the course), they're inaccurate. Even removing the LMS talk from the discussion, you meant to say "This is the first time post-Yuuji's kanzenseiha an American has done better than all champions." That's still wrong. Brian Orosco (twice), Paul Kasemir, Brent Steffensen, Travis Furlanic and David Campbell each performed better than all available champions who competed before Drew ever did. And Drew even did it three times by the time you said he did it for the first time. My apologies, it IS incorrect. Although, the rest are still correct as far as I know. I've replied to you before how they're not. The only ones accurate were 3rd Stage attempts by an American and most consecutive 3rd Stage attempts by a foreigner. Every other one is wrong.
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Apr 16, 2017 19:14:51 GMT -5
Takeda was the only all star to clear the first stage. This has happened a couple of times. SASUKE 8 and SASUKE 24. However this is the first time out of these 3 that his run ended in stage 2.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 12:51:25 GMT -5
This is the 3rd time Shingo did worse on the same obstacle he failed in the tournament he attempted (and failed) it prior. The first time was SASUKE 12, failing the Cliffhanger worse than 11, the second time was the Body Prop in SASUKE 17 failing worse than 15 and now the Double Pendulum in 33 failing worse than 32. I'm not counting his Flying Chute fails in 18 and 21 because they were different versions, same for the Spin Bridge in 27 and 28.
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Post by YGK on Apr 17, 2017 21:32:54 GMT -5
This is the 3rd time Shingo did worse on the same obstacle he failed in the tournament he attempted (and failed) it prior. The first time was SASUKE 12, failing the Cliffhanger worse than 11, the second time was the Body Prop in SASUKE 17 failing worse than 15 and now the Double Pendulum in 33 failing worse than 32. I'm not counting his Flying Chute fails in 18 and 21 because they were different versions, same for the Spin Bridge in 27 and 28. Technically sasuke 32 and 33 double pendulum are different versions, the distance between the first and second pendulum got increased for 33. But I guess one could make a case that shingo failed an earlier part of the obstacle this time as compared to previously
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Post by Mk20SSR on Apr 18, 2017 5:00:57 GMT -5
Morirmoto Yusuke attempted both the Reverse Conveyor and Flying Bar (NOT counting ANW, pls don't bring it up in this thread) for his very first time in SASUKE 33/a SASUKE tournament.
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