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Post by sanadddict on Mar 28, 2017 21:19:23 GMT -5
Look at the ShinSedai's performances in 33...
Yuji-first obstacle like wth.
Kaawaguchi-doubl pendulum
ryo-fishbone.
This isn't unlike the mental slip-ups like we saw among the all-stars in the tournaments from 19 to around 24-25. After all, most of the shinsedai are entering their mid-30s, which was also the time the All-stars started slipping up on the 1st stage.
(This is my first thread, so feel free to correct me if I should start this thread elsewhere, or if i went against any of the forum's rules, thanks:))
PS: I know Yusuke is part of the Shinsedai, but the age gap between him and the rest of the Shinsedai so i don't really think he should be considered part of the group as far as peak performance goes. Yusuke's still got at least another 5 tourneys in him to achieve another kanzenseiha.
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Mar 28, 2017 21:35:06 GMT -5
Yusuke and Kawaguchi actually AREN'T a part of the shin sedai. Only Yuuji, Kanno, Ryo, and Asa.
This confusion is common. Hioki and Shinya are also sometimes wrongly considered shin sedai. Shunsuke and Sato definitely aren't either (although Sato along with Hashimoto and Tajima used to be of the New Stars with Yuuji and Kanno before Sasuke 28 cane around and TBS took over).
As for the question, I think all 4 shin sedai are still capable of solid Stage 3 runs. I think Ryo and Yuuji still have the potential to win again personally, too.
In fact, I can't see anybody but Ryo, Yuuji, Morimoto, or Drew winning next. Maybe Tomohiro if he trained properly for Stage 4. And a big maybe on Shinya.
Are they decling though? They're definitely less motivated, and are getting up there in age besides Ryo and Kanno (and Morimoto, Sato, and Shunsuke).
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Post by sanadddict on Mar 28, 2017 22:55:13 GMT -5
Yusuke and Kawaguchi actually AREN'T a part of the shin sedai. Only Yuuji, Kanno, Ryo, and Asa. This confusion is common. Hioki and Shinya are also sometimes wrongly considered shin sedai. Shunsuke and Sato definitely aren't either (although Sato along with Hashimoto and Tajima used to be of the New Stars with Yuuji and Kanno before Sasuke 28 cane around and TBS took over). As for the question, I think all 4 shin sedai are still capable of solid Stage 3 runs. I think Ryo and Yuuji still have the potential to win again personally, too. In fact, I can't see anybody but Ryo, Yuuji, Morimoto, or Drew winning next. Maybe Tomohiro if he trained properly for Stage 4. And a big maybe on Shinya. Are they decling though? They're definitely less motivated, and are getting up there in age besides Ryo and Kanno (and Morimoto, Sato, and Shunsuke). I think yusuke was always an "unofficial" shinsedai member, but I guess he isn't really part of them. On his own lol. But Ryo has always been stuck on stage 3, he's like the Shinsedai's Takeda. One of the most consistent, but never reached the final. tomohiro is also 35, so i don't know how many more tourneys he has at his peak, which was probably 30-32. I think he'll do okay at 34, but after that he'll probably start declining. As for Yusuke... I think we'll see a few more stage 2 appearances and perhaps 1 more stage 3 appearance, but I seriously doubt he has a 3rd kanzenseiha in him. I love Hioki though, hes been my fave competitor since 29:). Unfortunately, he's 35 and I don't think we'll see more than a stage 3 appearance from him:(. As for drew... he's probably the favourite to achieve the next kanzenseiha, but hey, I wouldn't mind seeing a second Yusuke kanzenseiha in 34/35. |
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Mar 28, 2017 23:46:32 GMT -5
Yusuke and Kawaguchi actually AREN'T a part of the shin sedai. Only Yuuji, Kanno, Ryo, and Asa. This confusion is common. Hioki and Shinya are also sometimes wrongly considered shin sedai. Shunsuke and Sato definitely aren't either (although Sato along with Hashimoto and Tajima used to be of the New Stars with Yuuji and Kanno before Sasuke 28 cane around and TBS took over). As for the question, I think all 4 shin sedai are still capable of solid Stage 3 runs. I think Ryo and Yuuji still have the potential to win again personally, too. In fact, I can't see anybody but Ryo, Yuuji, Morimoto, or Drew winning next. Maybe Tomohiro if he trained properly for Stage 4. And a big maybe on Shinya. Are they decling though? They're definitely less motivated, and are getting up there in age besides Ryo and Kanno (and Morimoto, Sato, and Shunsuke). I think yusuke was always an "unofficial" shinsedai member, but I guess he isn't really part of them. On his own lol. But Ryo has always been stuck on stage 3, he's like the Shinsedai's Takeda. One of the most consistent, but never reached the final. tomohiro is also 35, so i don't know how many more tourneys he has at his peak, which was probably 30-32. I think he'll do okay at 34, but after that he'll probably start declining. As for Yusuke... I think we'll see a few more stage 2 appearances and perhaps 1 more stage 3 appearance, but I seriously doubt he has a 3rd kanzenseiha in him. I love Hioki though, hes been my fave competitor since 29:). Unfortunately, he's 35 and I don't think we'll see more than a stage 3 appearance from him:(. As for drew... he's probably the favourite to achieve the next kanzenseiha, but hey, I wouldn't mind seeing a second Yusuke kanzenseiha in 34/35. Ryo has indeed been to Stage 4: See Sasuke 30. And I think you mean Yuuji, not Yusuke, when you say "3rd kanzenseiha". I don't see a 3rd happening either, but I do believe he's got the natural talent to do it, if anybody. Unfortunately he's past his peak. It's a shame how fast he aged -- I was so surprised to see he was 38 in Sasuke 33, that's the same age Takeda was asked to retire with the rest of the all stars in Sasuke 28, and the same age the last time we saw Bunpei in stage 3 (Sasuke 17). Time really does fly. |
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Post by arsenette on Mar 28, 2017 23:49:14 GMT -5
Yusuke and Kawaguchi actually AREN'T a part of the shin sedai. Only Yuuji, Kanno, Ryo, and Asa. This confusion is common. Hioki and Shinya are also sometimes wrongly considered shin sedai. Shunsuke and Sato definitely aren't either (although Sato along with Hashimoto and Tajima used to be of the New Stars with Yuuji and Kanno before Sasuke 28 cane around and TBS took over). As for the question, I think all 4 shin sedai are still capable of solid Stage 3 runs. I think Ryo and Yuuji still have the potential to win again personally, too. In fact, I can't see anybody but Ryo, Yuuji, Morimoto, or Drew winning next. Maybe Tomohiro if he trained properly for Stage 4. And a big maybe on Shinya. Are they decling though? They're definitely less motivated, and are getting up there in age besides Ryo and Kanno (and Morimoto, Sato, and Shunsuke). I think yusuke was always an "unofficial" shinsedai member, but I guess he isn't really part of them. On his own lol. But Ryo has always been stuck on stage 3, he's like the Shinsedai's Takeda. One of the most consistent, but never reached the final. tomohiro is also 35, so i don't know how many more tourneys he has at his peak, which was probably 30-32. I think he'll do okay at 34, but after that he'll probably start declining. As for Yusuke... I think we'll see a few more stage 2 appearances and perhaps 1 more stage 3 appearance, but I seriously doubt he has a 3rd kanzenseiha in him. I love Hioki though, hes been my fave competitor since 29:). Unfortunately, he's 35 and I don't think we'll see more than a stage 3 appearance from him:(. As for drew... he's probably the favourite to achieve the next kanzenseiha, but hey, I wouldn't mind seeing a second Yusuke kanzenseiha in 34/35. Ryo hasn't gotten out of the first stage in how many years now? So he is not Takeda by any stretch of the imagination. He also is a 2 time-finalist so I think you are confusing him with someone else. Morimoto is not Shin Sedai nor was he ever. Shin Sedai were all Sasuke Trial qualifiers and he was competing well before the Shin Sedai were a thing. Yuuji is the 2 time champion. (Again I think you are confusing names). |
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Post by sanadddict on Mar 29, 2017 0:35:21 GMT -5
I think yusuke was always an "unofficial" shinsedai member, but I guess he isn't really part of them. On his own lol. But Ryo has always been stuck on stage 3, he's like the Shinsedai's Takeda. One of the most consistent, but never reached the final. tomohiro is also 35, so i don't know how many more tourneys he has at his peak, which was probably 30-32. I think he'll do okay at 34, but after that he'll probably start declining. As for Yusuke... I think we'll see a few more stage 2 appearances and perhaps 1 more stage 3 appearance, but I seriously doubt he has a 3rd kanzenseiha in him. I love Hioki though, hes been my fave competitor since 29:). Unfortunately, he's 35 and I don't think we'll see more than a stage 3 appearance from him:(. As for drew... he's probably the favourite to achieve the next kanzenseiha, but hey, I wouldn't mind seeing a second Yusuke kanzenseiha in 34/35. Ryo hasn't gotten out of the first stage in how many years now? So he is not Takeda by any stretch of the imagination. He also is a 2 time-finalist so I think you are confusing him with someone else. Morimoto is not Shin Sedai nor was he ever. Shin Sedai were all Sasuke Trial qualifiers and he was competing well before the Shin Sedai were a thing. Yuuji is the 2 time champion. (Again I think you are confusing names). Ahhhhh sorry, I was talking about asa. I'm sorry, it's just my own problem, I confuse asa with ryo A LOT. My apologies... i meant to say yuji doesnt have a 3rd kanzenseiha in him, asa as the "takeda", consistent but never a finalist, and yusuke hopefully as a 2 time champion. I apologise for confusing you, arsenette. BTW, big fan!  As for my confusion of Yusuke being a shinsedai member, it's because Sasukepedia lists him as a member of the shinsedai... its very misleading. |
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 29, 2017 0:48:40 GMT -5
As for my confusion of Yusuke being a shinsedai member, it's because Sasukepedia lists him as a member of the shinsedai... its very misleading. Sasukepedia has been such a target of vandalism and edits with wrong information it's hardly reliable, such is the problem of something anyone can edit |
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Post by arsenette on Mar 29, 2017 1:59:47 GMT -5
Agreed with Rider on sasukepedia as a pure mess I don't even use anymore. Which is a shame because a lot of work went into it. And LOL confusing the names. I was wondering reading going "no that's not.. no that's not either.." but honestly that confusion happens a lot. Over time though you will remember their names. Thanks for the kind words ♥ |
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Post by yasuoyujji on Mar 31, 2017 6:11:32 GMT -5
The Shin Sedai is just currently out of juice. Look at Yuuji for instance, Ryo as well. I didn't know why Kanno attacked the Rolling Hill this way. First he screwed up his knee, Secondly, he should be more careful and not jump from so high up. Yuuji now failed the First Stage the third straight time. And doing worse every single attempt. For Ryo, the First Stage just isn't in favour for him. Look at the Fishbone, the modifications on the height of the Trapeze and distance to the sandbag on the Double Pendulum. How heavy the Tackle is. 860kg! That little guy just weighs 52-53kg! God!
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Post by PsychoDelusion on Mar 31, 2017 17:36:13 GMT -5
The Shin Sedai is just currently out of juice. Look at Yuuji for instance, Ryo as well. I didn't know why Kanno attacked the Rolling Hill this way. First he screwed up his knee, Secondly, he should be more careful and not jump from so high up. Yuuji now failed the First Stage the third straight time. And doing worse every single attempt. For Ryo, the First Stage just isn't in favour for him. Look at the Fishbone, the modifications on the height of the Trapeze and distance to the sandbag on the Double Pendulum. How heavy the Tackle is. 860kg! That little guy just weighs 52-53kg! God!
Kanno did the same in SASUKE 32 (well...almost), that's why he went for it. When he got there though, he knew he was never going to make it, however with his mind still locked on this technique he couldn't do anything else but jump which didn't end well. It's all about the mindset you have before you approach the course. |
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Post by yasuoyujji on Apr 2, 2017 10:18:53 GMT -5
The Shin Sedai is just currently out of juice. Look at Yuuji for instance, Ryo as well. I didn't know why Kanno attacked the Rolling Hill this way. First he screwed up his knee, Secondly, he should be more careful and not jump from so high up. Yuuji now failed the First Stage the third straight time. And doing worse every single attempt. For Ryo, the First Stage just isn't in favour for him. Look at the Fishbone, the modifications on the height of the Trapeze and distance to the sandbag on the Double Pendulum. How heavy the Tackle is. 860kg! That little guy just weighs 52-53kg! God!
Kanno did the same in SASUKE 32 (well...almost), that's why he went for it. When he got there though, he knew he was never going to make it, however with his mind still locked on this technique he couldn't do anything else but jump which didn't end well. It's all about the mindset you have before you approach the course. Thank you for highlighting my error. You are totally right in this aspect. As i said, they are out of juice. That's why Kanno screwed up at the Rolling Hill. |
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