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Post by RiderLeangle on Apr 6, 2009 19:07:56 GMT -5
He was there? Which runs can you see him in the sidelines during?
BTW, Arsenette, If you can give your left nad I'd be greatly concerned........
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Post by bigblind168 on Apr 6, 2009 19:24:36 GMT -5
He didnt crash the course... at all. He went to Japan, to see Sasuke. Crashing the course would be this: run thru security, hide under the bleachers until they left, then watch. But he showed a few pictures saying he knew David and Levi and asked if he could get in. They granted him access. Please, please tell me how in anyway that is crashing the course, when they granted him access to watch.
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Post by arsenette on Apr 6, 2009 19:32:13 GMT -5
He didnt crash the course... at all. He went to Japan, to see Sasuke. Crashing the course would be this: run thru security, hide under the bleachers until they left, then watch. But he showed a few pictures saying he knew David and Levi and asked if he could get in. They granted him access. Please, please tell me how in anyway that is crashing the course, when they granted him access to watch. No he crashed the course. He was not invited to a closed set and he lied through lax security by saying he was with G4. Plain and simple. What's to stop another asshat with money to do the same? Apparently the Japanese people never had to deal with ugly americans to have to up security just to keep the retards out. Some of us ACTUALLY obey rules. |
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Post by bigblind168 on Apr 6, 2009 19:37:11 GMT -5
He didnt crash the course... at all. He went to Japan, to see Sasuke. Crashing the course would be this: run thru security, hide under the bleachers until they left, then watch. But he showed a few pictures saying he knew David and Levi and asked if he could get in. They granted him access. Please, please tell me how in anyway that is crashing the course, when they granted him access to watch. No he crashed the course. He was not invited to a closed set and he lied through lax security by saying he was with G4. Plain and simple. What's to stop another asshat with money to do the same? Apparently the Japanese people never had to deal with ugly americans to have to up security just to keep the retards out. Some of us ACTUALLY obey rules. he didnt say he was with G4, he said he knew David and Levi and asked if he could get in |
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Post by arsenette on Apr 6, 2009 19:40:49 GMT -5
he didnt say he was with G4, he said he knew David and Levi and asked if he could get in .... he made up a friendship that doesn't exist.. how is that anymore helpful? He was not legitimately supposed to be there. End of story. You can get arrested if he tried that in the USA. The only difference is that they don't have a list. Here they do. Doesn't make it "right" by any stretch of the imagination. I could have done the exact same thing. I actually write to David all the time and blog about them all the time. Does that give me or even Ube a right to fake being allowed to be there? HELL NO. Fact of the matter is he should not have been there and he got in because of lax security. He should have been denied and I don't care how far he came from.. doesn't make it right that he crashed Sasuke. |
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Post by Oti on Apr 6, 2009 20:07:34 GMT -5
Quit making it out like he pushed through security or ran by when they were on break. He went up to them himself and ASKED for entrance. The point is, they LET him through.
Since he was ALLOWED in, he did not "crash" Sasuke. So, you should probably stop saying that.
Who cares if he should have been denied? I don't hear you bitching about Levi getting into ANC2. After all, he's a professional athlete and those were against the rules. Why so much hate for Ultimask8er? What's the difference? Neither of them should have been allowed to go, and yet they did. And what's the big deal?
I completely understand why you would be angry (and I would be too, believe me) if he broke in and actually made security work and pissed TBS off... but that's not the case, so quit acting like it.
And you're also making him out to be a snotty rich kid who just bought his way in, as if he bribed the guards or something. He flew there and then slept in a park. He was broke. Homeless. He slept in the park with other homeless people around him. When he got to Midoriyama, he simply walked up to the front gate and said he knew David and showed them a picture of Levi. Their faces lit up for one reason or another and they let him in. It's not like he slipped then a few hundreds and strolled in.
The more you try to put him down, the more YOU look like the retard, not him. Maybe you should stop commentating on people and just stick to what you're used to - the shows.
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Post by arsenette on Apr 6, 2009 20:11:36 GMT -5
Levi entered a contest that was sponsoring an event entry. It was up to them to assign the slots and Monster 9 was okay with the slots.
Skater was not or ever has been a registered competitor. Anyone that would even justify his actions as something that should have been allowed has a bigger problem lack of respect of rules. The people in Japan have had it going just fine and having lax security because people actually respected the rules. Here goes Skater with his mentality that just because he is a fan of the show he should be allowed. I wonder what David feels like now knowing he was used to get in a show. In fact I'll ask him.
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Post by Oti on Apr 6, 2009 20:22:00 GMT -5
He didn't have the mentality that he should be allowed in. He went to see what would happen. Damn you're judgmental.
Ask David and post his response right here. Word for word.
I bet he doesn't feel as if he was used. He probably feels as if he was HELPFUL. He's cool like that.
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Post by Badalight on Apr 6, 2009 20:23:14 GMT -5
Arsenette: I undersand you're frustrated, but nothing went wrong, everything turned out okay.
It's not his fault they let him in, he went there not knowing what they'd say, so if he WAS denied acess he wouldn't have pushed the guards or anything.
he went knowing there would be a chance he wouldn't get in, but they let him in. It sounds like you're mad or just jealous because you didn't get to see Sasuke.
I mean, not all rules are set in stone. Just because it's a closed set means nothing. If an american pays money to go see Sasuke and knows the compeitor "maybe not personally, but still knew them" they may have let him in based purely on that fact.
Maybe they have really leaniant security, and even though it's closed maybe you just simply have to ask.
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Post by Oti on Apr 6, 2009 20:28:00 GMT -5
Would you like me to smite you for that? You're going for negative karma, right? (I hope  ) |
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Post by arsenette on Apr 6, 2009 20:28:19 GMT -5
The entitlement mentality of this generation is so appalling it's almost amazing.. the fact you can rationalize it is truly spectacular to watch. No wonder this country is getting shot to hell. No one has honor anymore.
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Post by arsenette on Apr 6, 2009 20:32:39 GMT -5
Spending 5 years in television and seeing this crap happen every day shouldn't have surprised me though. This country actually has stalker laws in place after what happened to Becky Schaeffer en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Schaeffer but of course this happened before you were born so wouldn't know. In Japan for the past 11 years they have had an honor policy where you had family and friends of the participants knowing if they had problems with the people they were attached to they just know to not allow that competitor to come back again. Now it's perfectly acceptable according to you guys for the fans of not only this country but to others around the world to just show up at their doorstep because they are "too honest" about actually checking if he/she is telling the truth. It always takes ugly americans to destroy something so special over there. Seriously. No honor whatsoever left in this culture. |
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Post by Oti on Apr 6, 2009 20:36:01 GMT -5
Just as you make it sound like he's selfish, I can make it sound like he's honorable and courageous. Why not stop ruining this thread with your grudge against him?
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Post by arsenette on Apr 6, 2009 20:41:10 GMT -5
There is nothing courageous about lying an association/friendship to obtain something that is not yours. I don't care if he was rich or poor. If you are not invited to an event you don't belong there. Period. Don't use people's kindness as a measure to circumvent the system.
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Post by Badalight on Apr 6, 2009 20:45:34 GMT -5
Would you like me to smite you for that? You're going for negative karma, right? (I hope ) What me? lol, what'd I say? |
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Post by Oti on Apr 6, 2009 20:46:13 GMT -5
He flew out there, leaving no money left for a place to sleep or anything to eat, on a dream, a whim, a PRAYER, hoping they'd let him in, and by the majestic grace of God, he was allowed in! See? Oh really... interesting... you weren't invited to come into this topic and turn it into a flame against Ultimask8er... and yet you did... Hmmmmm.... Badalight, you're talking LOGIC! For once. |
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Post by Badalight on Apr 6, 2009 20:48:37 GMT -5
Ah I see... Actually I think I'm at max negative Karma.
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Post by scnoi1217 on Apr 6, 2009 20:50:24 GMT -5
I would agree with you Bada and Oti if Ulti went there and was just like, "Hey, I've traveled here from the US, all so I could watch Sasuke live, could you let me in?" and they accepted/denied him, then I would say no problem. Ulti made an effort to try to see the show and it worked/failed.
My biggest problem is that the dude lied to get his a** into the gates. Now, any a*****e with money can get to watch Sasuke live just because they are good at lying and have some extra cash around. And because these rules, which have been around for how many years, are pretty lax because they trust that everyone is telling the truth, who's to stop anyone here or elsewhere from doing the same. All anyone on these boards has to do is fly to Japan and lie to security and boom! Sasuke all day! That's my biggest problem.
Everyone is praising him, because many of you know that this will work. Once your there, what's going to stop you from doing anything? "I want to do the Jumping Spider" "I'm gonna hug Nagano" "I'm want to touch the Octopus'...uh, Octopus" What's to stop any jackass from doing that? All you gotta say is, "Yea, I'm Levi's brother, I came with him" and you get instant access on the show.
Now please, do not say, "O you just have a grudge against him since you didn't think of it first" I have NO problems with Ulti at all. I've talked to him numerous times about different things and he seems like a really chill guy and avid fan of the show. So this is nothing personal at all. In my opinion, its dishonest. Honestly, I'm sure he was fine there. Even anyone else on these boards (for the most part), I know would treat the competitors/show with respect once there. It's the other idiots/idiot teenagers (like the ones that think the course is easy)/psycho fans which worry me.
We can get into how Monster9/TBS feels about Americans or what if this piece of info got out and some idiot ruined something in the next tourney...but that's another discussion entirely.
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Post by Oti on Apr 6, 2009 20:50:27 GMT -5
Oh. Well... Um...
-1 Karma for you.
I tried.
How do you know he doesn't know David? Maybe not personally, but maybe through PMs?
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Post by Badalight on Apr 6, 2009 20:55:07 GMT -5
Well actually, I came up with the idea of that back during the first ANC, so he could've gotten the idea from me.
Doesn't take a genious to think of it though.
There's too many variables to consider.
1. Maybe they do know eachother
2. Maybe security is actually incredibly leaniant
3. Maybe they didn't let him in based on the fact he knew americans, but paid his fair there and asked politely to get in.
I just don't think Ulti should be blamed when he did nothing wrong aside from Lying that he knew David.
And we don't even know if it was a lie.
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