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Post by cliffhanger on Sept 12, 2016 3:40:30 GMT -5
Or when they do, why they don't do so well?
Maybe because they have more attempts when testing?
Or do they have different background for each stage (freerunners for first, climbers for third...)?
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Post by arsenette on Sept 12, 2016 5:50:55 GMT -5
Kong started out as a tester.
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Post by Philip on Sept 12, 2016 7:49:17 GMT -5
Kong started out as a tester. That's the reason why he wasn't in any tournaments between his runs in 7 and 16 right? |
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Post by TCM on Sept 12, 2016 13:13:16 GMT -5
Kong started out as a tester. That's the reason why he wasn't in any tournaments between his runs in 7 and 16 right? He's also tested versions of the Flying Chute and Salmon Ladder. And (to OP) it's just the nature of the course. You might be able to have perfect technique on an obstacle when you have no stakes in training, but get on the course where natural nerves and the tension of how the day has gone and suddenly it's insurmountable. |
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Post by verified on Sept 12, 2016 21:08:29 GMT -5
Anyone know if people who are currently testers are even allowed to compete? Seems like it'd be an unfair advantage.
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Sept 12, 2016 21:17:12 GMT -5
I know Keitaro was a tester a few times but also ran the course in 29 but I think that's the only time he did.
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Post by SasukeDoctor on Sept 12, 2016 21:45:14 GMT -5
I know Keitaro was a tester a few times but also ran the course in 29 but I think that's the only time he did. Keitaro Yamamoto? He was also in 20. |
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Sept 12, 2016 21:48:06 GMT -5
I know Keitaro was a tester a few times but also ran the course in 29 but I think that's the only time he did. Keitaro Yamamoto? He was also in 20. Yeah that's who I mean. Did he compete in 20? My memory of 20 is kinda fuzzy...  |
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Post by arsenette on Sept 12, 2016 21:52:37 GMT -5
Anyone know if people who are currently testers are even allowed to compete? Seems like it'd be an unfair advantage. Each tourney is a bit different than the last so there really is no advantage. Also, it's extremely rare that testers do well on the courses to begin with. Kong really is an exception over the 15+ years he's been with the show. The others you don't even know because usually they are cut for poor performances. |
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Post by dantebm on Sept 13, 2016 2:26:54 GMT -5
I think Tatsuya Tada and Tomino Keita would do excelent on competition
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Post by SasukeDoctor on Sept 13, 2016 6:04:05 GMT -5
I think Tatsuya Tada and Tomino Keita would do excelent on competition Tomimo was in 29, and he failed the Jump Hang Kai. Speaking of Tada, why hasn't he been on SASUKE since 19? |
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Post by sasukefinland on Sept 13, 2016 12:58:54 GMT -5
Keita pretty much stopped sasuke training some years ago, because of long working hours.
Tada was a tester in 30 and he sends applications but does not get invited.. it's a shame.
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Post by verified on Sept 13, 2016 13:24:31 GMT -5
Anyone know if people who are currently testers are even allowed to compete? Seems like it'd be an unfair advantage. Each tourney is a bit different than the last so there really is no advantage. Also, it's extremely rare that testers do well on the courses to begin with. Kong really is an exception over the 15+ years he's been with the show. The others you don't even know because usually they are cut for poor performances. Not sure I agree with what you're saying, but I get where you're coming from. I do think getting to repeatedly try the same exact obstacles that are on the course gives an advantage, regardless of if some of the obstacles are changed. Of course that doesn't mean they'll automatically do well running the course for real (like you said), but I don't think anyone can deny that it can give a certain edge. Though there is the question if having an advantage over others really matters that much, given that the competitors aren't competing against each other. I think some people, possibly even other competitors, would be annoyed if a current tester were to do something like achieve kanzenseiha. I would love to hear a veteran's opinion on this. |
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Post by arsenette on Sept 13, 2016 13:28:44 GMT -5
Speaking of Tada, why hasn't he been on SASUKE since 19? This has been the source of my frustration for years now. He hasn't even been invited to audition instead told to test. He was supposed to be in 31 but that was scrapped.. I thought for sure he was going to be back for 32 and then that magically disappeared. |
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Post by TCM on Sept 13, 2016 18:12:49 GMT -5
Each tourney is a bit different than the last so there really is no advantage. Also, it's extremely rare that testers do well on the courses to begin with. Kong really is an exception over the 15+ years he's been with the show. The others you don't even know because usually they are cut for poor performances. Not sure I agree with what you're saying, but I get where you're coming from. I do think getting to repeatedly try the same exact obstacles that are on the course gives an advantage, regardless of if some of the obstacles are changed. Of course that doesn't mean they'll automatically do well running the course for real (like you said), but I don't think anyone can deny that it can give a certain edge. Though there is the question if having an advantage over others really matters that much, given that the competitors aren't competing against each other. I think some people, possibly even other competitors, would be annoyed if a current tester were to do something like achieve kanzenseiha. I would love to hear a veteran's opinion on this. Virtually any obstacle that doesn't have a motor can be replicated with the right space, time and resources. You may not know exact dimensions, but the only big differences between replica training and testing is 1. determining whether it's impossible or not to do period and 2. doing it on someone else's time and possibly dime instead of just your own. Like was stated, Kong was a tester, and there are pictures of him testing what were variants of the Flying Chute and Salmon Ladder, both of which he has failed some version of. Not to mention, he's only cleared the Third Stage once. Sure, you can argue he likely would have won if his safety rope didn't tangle but that's the hand he was dealt that tournament. |
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Post by dantebm on Sept 14, 2016 17:14:39 GMT -5
Keita pretty much stopped sasuke training some years ago, because of long working hours. Tada was a tester in 30 and he sends applications but does not get invited.. it's a shame. Shame. They could be as protagonist as Morimoto or Ryo. |
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