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Post by KinnikuBanzukeÜberAlles on Aug 3, 2016 20:20:17 GMT -5
I just hope that Esquire stays on the air until after SASUKE eventually ends.
It would be really crappy if NBCU pulled the plug on Esquire before they get a chance to broadcast the new tournaments.
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Post by OwlRTA on Aug 3, 2016 20:24:42 GMT -5
I bet you there will be people saying stuff like "Hey there is now ANW in Japan". "Sure, that old 480p footage of Sasuke 2 was made after the 1080p (possibly 4k) footage of ANW 8"
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Post by OwlRTA on Aug 3, 2016 22:12:11 GMT -5
one serious question I have: is ctv going to be able to get these ninja warrior tournaments? probably put it on one of Bell's cable networks (although the only network I could think of where to fit this is TSN2, and I don't think it would get much ratings there)
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Post by SasukeDoctor on Aug 3, 2016 22:34:37 GMT -5
hypeHypeHYPEHYPEHYPE
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Post by RiderLeangle on Aug 3, 2016 23:29:56 GMT -5
I wonder whether they will show Americans in 25 and 26. Wasn't it 26 that they edited them out and showed them separate on NBC? I assume Esquire will be showing the old G4 episodes like they apparently did for Ninja Warrior 27, which means yes 25 will show the Americans since that was G4 competitors sent to Sasuke 25 who cleared in 23, However Ninja Warrior 23, 26 and 27 will have the Americans cut because of those being the tournaments for ANW1-3
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Post by Amber on Aug 3, 2016 23:41:22 GMT -5
I wonder whether they will show Americans in 25 and 26. Wasn't it 26 that they edited them out and showed them separate on NBC? I assume Esquire will be showing the old G4 episodes like they apparently did for Ninja Warrior 27, which means yes 25 will show the Americans since that was G4 competitors sent to Sasuke 25 who cleared in 23, However Ninja Warrior 23, 26 and 27 will have the Americans cut because of those being the tournaments for ANW1-3 oh yeah and iirc they had a 3 hour long special for the ANW 3 finale which i think was the first time ANW was shown on NBC?
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Post by RiderLeangle on Aug 3, 2016 23:49:47 GMT -5
I assume Esquire will be showing the old G4 episodes like they apparently did for Ninja Warrior 27, which means yes 25 will show the Americans since that was G4 competitors sent to Sasuke 25 who cleared in 23, However Ninja Warrior 23, 26 and 27 will have the Americans cut because of those being the tournaments for ANW1-3 oh yeah and iirc they had a 3 hour long special for the ANW 3 finale which i think was the first time ANW was shown on NBC? 2 hours but other than that correct. And on top of that it was also the first time the finals of ANW (I.E. the Midoriyama part of it) had english commentary as ANW1 and 2 just had subtitles of the Japanese commentary (however for ANW2 Matt and Jimmy were in japan to record clips for going to and returning from commercial as well as recaps)
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Post by arsenette on Aug 4, 2016 1:49:19 GMT -5
It's funny. I wasn't feeling well so I was asleep during the day. I had the podcast to do last night so I put my alarm for 7 pm. I got up around 6:30 and immediately started to get my stuff taken care of (I set up in the living room with a laptop that is only updated/virus scanned once a month). I'm trying to get dinner and I get a disturbing phone call (personal) so I'm flustered. Hubby's seen the message (he follows William on Twitter) but let me be. It's now 15 minutes before I'm about to start and I check my phone. My twitter feed EXPLODED.. all I could say "okay that makes sense". This has been going on in negotiations for the better part of a year. There were rumors going on during Sasuke (in connection to the TV Guide Japan article that said ANW was the new global standard) and of course the association with ATS with obstacles for Sasuke. There was also stuff I'm not at liberty to discuss. Btw Inui has zero to do with corporate negotiations. This is all corporate level stuff. Inui is a sub contractor. My initial thoughts I said on the podcast (fresh thoughts since that's the first I got to talk about it). Synopsis is that it is interesting that they are using G4's library for 1-26 and Kunoichi 7. For those who don't know.. The G4 edit for Ninja Warrior 27 deleted the 10 Americans from the show since they had that separately in ANW3. So it looks like they will reedit 27 to reincorporate them back in. My hunch - remember I'm not in politics anymore and am not researching stuff from now on - so this is not official or anything. Just looking at stuff from that lens. So I'm thinking 27 has to have an overhaul and Esquire is doing that. If they do that.. then that will be different than the NW27 that is airing around the world. I for one welcome that change if they do so. I'm a little leery because this doesn't come free. Comcast will have their say in production of Sasuke since I'm sure it also means they are paying for stuff. Also, NBC retains the rights to sending people they want. Granted given what just happened this past season TBS asked and NBC approved. I'm curious if they will demand more (ala G4) or if they plan to move Sasuke to be taped after ANW to accommodate qualifications (should they go that route). It also signals to me that this is more for World Cup than for Sasuke specifically. If that's the case, having the US a paying partner will help with the budget issues. My fear is at what cost given the debacle 32's editing. All in all it's a good thing to have it here in the USA again after a 5 year drought. 1-26 has already aired on US soil before and 25-27 has aired on Esquire in marathon form in the past. I'm more interested in Shin-27. LOL (Shin meaning new) if that is indeed what is happening and why they are postponing that for next year. I'm also wondering if 28-30 is the same edit that Challenge created or if they plan to do that in-house Esquire. P.S. Here's another (longer) article from Futon Critic
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Post by RiderLeangle on Aug 4, 2016 10:15:36 GMT -5
Synopsis is that it is interesting that they are using G4's library for 1-26 and Kunoichi 7. For those who don't know.. The G4 edit for Ninja Warrior 27 deleted the 10 Americans from the show since they had that separately in ANW3. So it looks like they will reedit 27 to reincorporate them back in. My hunch - remember I'm not in politics anymore and am not researching stuff from now on - so this is not official or anything. Just looking at stuff from that lens. So I'm thinking 27 has to have an overhaul and Esquire is doing that. If they do that.. then that will be different than the NW27 that is airing around the world. I for one welcome that change if they do so. Question though, why would they re-edit 27 to reinclude the Americans but 23 and 26 go untouched?
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Post by TCM on Aug 4, 2016 10:38:22 GMT -5
Synopsis is that it is interesting that they are using G4's library for 1-26 and Kunoichi 7. For those who don't know.. The G4 edit for Ninja Warrior 27 deleted the 10 Americans from the show since they had that separately in ANW3. So it looks like they will reedit 27 to reincorporate them back in. My hunch - remember I'm not in politics anymore and am not researching stuff from now on - so this is not official or anything. Just looking at stuff from that lens. So I'm thinking 27 has to have an overhaul and Esquire is doing that. If they do that.. then that will be different than the NW27 that is airing around the world. I for one welcome that change if they do so. Question though, why would they re-edit 27 to reinclude the Americans but 23 and 26 go untouched? Possibly because 27 has more currently relevant ANW competitors than 23 and 26? Of everyone who cleared Stage 1 in 27, only Paul and Travis weren't shown this season in ANW and that was because neither of them competed to my knowledge. And Drew didn't clear and he clearly is the most relevant American right now who isn't a champion.
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Post by DonalM on Aug 4, 2016 11:40:22 GMT -5
Question though, why would they re-edit 27 to reinclude the Americans but 23 and 26 go untouched? Possibly because 27 has more currently relevant ANW competitors than 23 and 26? Of everyone who cleared Stage 1 in 27, only Paul and Travis weren't shown this season in ANW and that was because neither of them competed to my knowledge. And Drew didn't clear and he clearly is the most relevant American right now who isn't a champion. Jake Smith too.
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Post by TCM on Aug 4, 2016 11:43:55 GMT -5
Possibly because 27 has more currently relevant ANW competitors than 23 and 26? Of everyone who cleared Stage 1 in 27, only Paul and Travis weren't shown this season in ANW and that was because neither of them competed to my knowledge. And Drew didn't clear and he clearly is the most relevant American right now who isn't a champion. Jake Smith too. I completely forgot Jake Smith existed.
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Post by arsenette on Aug 4, 2016 15:31:12 GMT -5
NW27 was the only one that altered results to completely exclude the Americans and move all that to ANW3. The exclusion was so stark people thought the Americans weren't even there... Even the leader board was altered. That didn't happen in previous tournaments on G4.
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Post by notamulti on Aug 4, 2016 15:41:29 GMT -5
NW27 was the only one that altered results to completely exclude the Americans and move all that to ANW3. The exclusion was so stark people thought the Americans weren't even there... Even the leader board was altered. That didn't happen in previous tournaments on G4. Pretty sure it did- I saw NW26 back in 2011 and remember searching like a headless chicken for info on the forums as to the blatant censorship. This was most obvious to me when there were only 2 in stage 3, when there were really 6 (4 Americans). I vaguely remember you also saying on your blog that you had to explain to some people this exact same fact, that there were 6 in stage 3. You can't really say that butchering stage 3 like that wasn't on the same level...
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Post by RiderLeangle on Aug 4, 2016 15:43:05 GMT -5
They did it with ANW 1 and 2 as well, remember when Sasuke almost died internationally since they bought the G4 ones and some of them just skipped from 22 to 24 since they didn't want incomplete tournaments, however Sasuke 27/ANW3 was the only one that had the separate broadcast dubbed instead of subbed
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Post by geoffbritten928 on Aug 4, 2016 15:57:56 GMT -5
OMG WHY IS THERE AN AMERICAN NINJA WARRIOR RIPOFF IN JAPAN?!?! HOW DARE THESE FOOLS START A SHOW IN 1997 TO RIP OFF OF ANOTHER SHOW THAT STARTED LIKE A DECADE LATER!
I bet that's what like half of the casual ANW viewers will be like when they start watching SASUKE for the first time.
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Post by arsenette on Aug 4, 2016 21:02:43 GMT -5
They did it with ANW 1 and 2 as well, remember when Sasuke almost died internationally since they bought the G4 ones and some of them just skipped from 22 to 24 since they didn't want incomplete tournaments, however Sasuke 27/ANW3 was the only one that had the separate broadcast dubbed instead of subbed I have to go back and see if I even have the G4 versions of those. 27 really stuck in my mind because the 10 Americans were shown in the USA 2 months before it even officially aired in Japan and the NW version didn't come out until more than a half a year after that. The earlier ones seem to be off my radar by comparison to that.
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Post by SasukeDoctor on Aug 4, 2016 21:34:46 GMT -5
For once I'm happy that I get Esquire Network
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Post by arsenette on Aug 5, 2016 4:01:38 GMT -5
I asked the writer of the article if he knew when in 2017 the new episodes will air.
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Post by yamfriend on Aug 5, 2016 22:40:07 GMT -5
More than anything, it's really nice to hear the return of Ninja Warrior/Women of Ninja Warrior to U.S. television after the long hiatus. Although it doesn't seem to be definitively stated in the article, is it confirmed that Ninja Warrior 1-26 (and Women of Ninja Warrior 1-7) will be completely unaltered from the G4 episodes? It also makes me wonder if Women of Ninja Warrior 8 will be returning as well, or if that (like Ninja Warrior 27) will be re-edited. I'm also crossing my fingers for an eventual return of Unbeatable Banzuke. For Ninja Warrior 27, I'm hoping that in addition to the re-working of the Americans' presence there, they show Morimoto's full run due to his importance in recent SASUKE history. After all, Ninja Warrior 26 and 27 showed several other runs which were excluded from the TBS broadcast, so it's not out of the realm of possibility that they show him. Similarly, I wonder if they'll do the same for any cut/digested runs in the TBS broadcasts of 28 through 32.
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