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Post by Al Bundy on Jun 1, 2017 2:41:15 GMT -5
I would guess that it's all 7 runner-up teams PLUS Party Time since they were last year's champs and not a runner-up this year. I've seen a (wrong) preview on USA's video page of Brian Arnold racing against someone who wasn't a runner-up either, so it can't be that. Besides, what jork122 said: Labreckf. are back, so that would already be 9 teams.
Also, I think that I saw in the schedule written "Wildcard week 1", and I think to remember it's 11 episodes. So it would make sense to be 7 Qualifiers + 2 Wild Cards (incl. relay between the two winners) + 2 Finals = 11.
However, that would be 16 out of 21 eliminated teams. That's a loooot of teams getting a 2nd chance. And how do you justify which poor 5 teams are out for good lol?
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Post by ekkerb11 on Jun 1, 2017 3:00:04 GMT -5
Hm...So you're saying each Wildcard episode has 8 teams? I just read the schedule and it says only 4 per episode. Which means all runner ups...plus Labreckfast Club? Weird choice. If it was based on the most popular current ninjas it would probably be Jessie's team or maybe Meagan's team.
Anyway, I have no idea who won, but at the current moment my feeling is that Storm Team is going to take it. Joe and Josh are superstars, and Alyssa I feel just had a couple of bad runs but is extremely talented. I would have said Real Life or TNT, but I think James might not even run in the finals, and TNT I don't think is as strong as last year.
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Post by Al Bundy on Jun 1, 2017 6:07:44 GMT -5
LOL obviously I didn't pay attention in first grade math. 4 per episode = 8 in 2 weeks. For some weird reason I believed it was 8 per episode... Why did I think that???
Anyway, I don't think it can be the 7 runner-ups. Labreck was seen in the preview, and I saw a picture with two other guys who went out in round 2. It's probably going to be based on popularity, which is not really a fair system.
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Post by madship on Jun 1, 2017 9:12:17 GMT -5
I agree with the 7 runners up and Labreckfast club playoffs. The ad on the USA site for Wildcard Round one makes it look like Lab Rats, Towers of Power, NorCal Ninjas and Karsten's Fast Kats will be competing next week. From the tag at the end of the episode it looks like the other three runners up (Wings, Superhero Squad and Ballers) are in with Labrek.
When I saw the number of episodes (11) and the number of teams (28), two wild card episodes (making the percent of teams in the playoffs very high, 57.1%) with an extra relay seemed to be the only answer. It's like overkill to pick an 8th seed.
No idea on the overall winner. Storm Team, as long as Joe doesn't have a bad day, has a good chance to win it all. I think the (not so) dark horse is LaBreckfast Club. They are fast and strong competitors. IMO, a slip up on the Ring of Fire in the Knockout Round is the only thing that kept Labreckfast club from sweeping episode 6. To your thought that the ultimate winner may come out of the last qualifier. I don't see the Towers winning it due to the invisible ladder. Ronin could do it, if Flip can the through the Ring of Fire.
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Post by Al Bundy on Jun 1, 2017 9:46:43 GMT -5
To your thought that the ultimate winner may come out of the last qualifier. I don't see the Towers winning it due to the invisible ladder. Ronin could do it, if Flip can the through the Ring of Fire. Well yeah, Ronin are the winners of the last episode
I agree that it's somewhat overkill, but I don't mind seeing some more TNW action.
Also, what do you count as "playoffs"? The way I see it, there will be 8 teams out of 28 in the finals, that's 28%.
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Post by madship on Jun 1, 2017 12:28:42 GMT -5
To your thought that the ultimate winner may come out of the last qualifier. I don't see the Towers winning it due to the invisible ladder. Ronin could do it, if Flip can the through the Ring of Fire. Well yeah, Ronin are the winners of the last episode
I agree that it's somewhat overkill, but I don't mind seeing some more TNW action.
Also, what do you count as "playoffs"? The way I see it, there will be 8 teams out of 28 in the finals, that's 28%.
In my mind the "regular season" would be the 7 qualifier episodes. The winners of these episodes get a bye to the finals episodes or second round of the "playoffs". I am considering the Wildcard episodes the first round of the "playoffs". To me playoffs are games/match ups some teams get to play, while others are golfing, in pursuit of the championship.
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Post by KinnikuBanzukeÜberAlles on Jun 1, 2017 21:13:43 GMT -5
tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tuesday-cable-ratings-may-30-2017/I was stunned to see that this week's episode was the highest rated episode so far. It got 1.117 million total viewers and a 0.4 (18-49 rating). Smackdown's ratings were virtually identical to last week's ratings, so it shouldn't have anything to do with that. Is this a one week anomaly, or does this have to do with something like kids being on summer vacation? Anyone have any other theories?
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Post by arsenette on Jun 2, 2017 6:49:03 GMT -5
tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tuesday-cable-ratings-may-30-2017/I was stunned to see that this week's episode was the highest rated episode so far. It got 1.117 million total viewers and a 0.4 (18-49 rating). Smackdown's ratings were virtually identical to last week's ratings, so it shouldn't have anything to do with that. Is this a one week anomaly, or does this have to do with something like kids being on summer vacation? Anyone have any other theories? That's a crazy jump! Tuesday turned out to be a big night anyway on television for some reason. Seems after a horrible viewing weekend, everyone watched TV on Tuesday. LOL We'll see if it's a good trend going into the final couple episodes before the main season starts on NBC.
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Post by Al Bundy on Jun 2, 2017 6:51:45 GMT -5
Or maybe people wanted to see the last of Geoff Britten for a while?
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Post by thatoneuser on Jun 2, 2017 6:59:51 GMT -5
tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tuesday-cable-ratings-may-30-2017/I was stunned to see that this week's episode was the highest rated episode so far. It got 1.117 million total viewers and a 0.4 (18-49 rating). Smackdown's ratings were virtually identical to last week's ratings, so it shouldn't have anything to do with that. Is this a one week anomaly, or does this have to do with something like kids being on summer vacation? Anyone have any other theories? My immediate thoughts are that a. it didn't run against basketball (or hockey) and b. maybe they advertised it a little better this week, but that's just a guess.
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Post by arsenette on Jun 2, 2017 7:46:07 GMT -5
I always do a comparison view for the whole night to see the bigger picture. Tuesday was a BIG TV day and so the physical amount of people watching TV that night was almost double what was going on all weekend. Even when you compare it to last week same time.. they had a lot more viewers in total. So it is of significant importance that TNW JUMPED so high up given that the pool was bigger. This is the highest rated Ninja Show in cable .. EVER. They broke a million in views AND got 0.4. They have never done that in G4 or Esquire. To be honest, I do believe the numbers jumped because of new watchers from Celebrity Ninja Warrior just a couple nights before. Remember it has a direct effect. New viewers watching and going "hey this seems fun" and goes to see more of it just a couple nights later. Time will tell if the new fans become regulars.
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Post by Steven π on Jun 2, 2017 8:54:36 GMT -5
I always do a comparison view for the whole night to see the bigger picture. Tuesday was a BIG TV day and so the physical amount of people watching TV that night was almost double what was going on all weekend. Even when you compare it to last week same time.. they had a lot more viewers in total. So it is of significant importance that TNW JUMPED so high up given that the pool was bigger. This is the highest rated Ninja Show in cable .. EVER. They broke a million in views AND got 0.4. They have never done that in G4 or Esquire. To be honest, I do believe the numbers jumped because of new watchers from Celebrity Ninja Warrior just a couple nights before. Remember it has a direct effect. New viewers watching and going "hey this seems fun" and goes to see more of it just a couple nights later. Time will tell if the new fans become regulars. In your country ANW and TNW seems to be very important lol. Also is the rating of TNW you mentioned high?
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jun 2, 2017 10:28:38 GMT -5
To be honest, I do believe the numbers jumped because of new watchers from Celebrity Ninja Warrior just a couple nights before. Remember it has a direct effect. New viewers watching and going "hey this seems fun" and goes to see more of it just a couple nights later. There was also evidently a replay of the All Star Special on NBC on Sunday as well.
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Post by arsenette on Jun 2, 2017 11:11:18 GMT -5
To be honest, I do believe the numbers jumped because of new watchers from Celebrity Ninja Warrior just a couple nights before. Remember it has a direct effect. New viewers watching and going "hey this seems fun" and goes to see more of it just a couple nights later. There was also evidently a replay of the All Star Special on NBC on Sunday as well. Yep that's on the same page. Didn't do as high as Celeb but still worth noting for people who may be new to the franchise tuning in for more.
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Post by matt723894 on Jun 6, 2017 21:39:57 GMT -5
Wow, what another glaring example of the godawful scoring system in TNW. They have to find a way to fix this.
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Post by madship on Jun 7, 2017 9:36:11 GMT -5
Wow, what another glaring example of the godawful scoring system in TNW. They have to find a way to fix this. I agree, while a much more entertaining episode than last week, the results were a disappointment. I am happy for Superhero Squad, I like those guys a lot, but they did not deserve to be in the relay.
This was the first time that both of the highest scoring (in my system) teams failed to make it to the relay. Labreckfast Club and The Ballers were so dominant in this episode that the relay could be considered an insult to them. The Wings and Superhero Squad have, so far, benefited more than any other team by the awkward scoring system. The weighting of the Captain's run propelled both teams to the relay of their episodes. Superhero Squad needed sudden death. Both team ended up losing in the relay. The weighting of the Captain's run and Sudden Death propelled both teams to the relay in this episode. The Wings were the worst performing team in both of their episodes and Superhero Squad was 3rd of 4 teams in both of theirs.
LaBreckfast Club has been robbed by the current system. They dominated episode 6 and were a close second to the Ballers in this one. Due to slip ups in sudden death of the knockout round of both episodes, they were eliminated.
The Wings and Superhero Squad relied heavily on the strength of one team member. This was not exclusive to them. The current scoring system seems specifically designed to create this dynamic. If TNW gets picked up for a third season, I hope the producers come up with a better system.
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Post by KinnikuBanzukeÜberAlles on Jun 7, 2017 20:17:00 GMT -5
tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tuesday-cable-ratings-june-6-2017/Last week's ratings weren't a fluke. Last night's episode was only down about 53K in total viewers to 1.064 million total viewers, and fairly steady with a 0.4 (18-49 rating). If TNW keeps this up for the rest of the season, it should get renewed easily by one of the NBC-Universal networks. Even if USA declines, as long as NBC renews ANW for 2018, I could envision the main NBC picking up TNW and pairing it with ANW next year, like what they're doing with Spartan now.
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Post by arsenette on Jun 8, 2017 5:29:42 GMT -5
That's good that they got the extra people from celebrity. Their base starting the season was a nice 800-850,000 which I mentioned a few times is almost 4 times more than it was on Esquire and 3 times more than G4. That alone was enough to renew it for Season 3. The rest of the season is icing on the cake. Their biggest problem was Esquire and the freefall the channel was in. From week to week though they maintained that strong base. The rise from last week I'm convinced are new people that came in from Celeb that never saw the show before and became aware of it on another easily obtainable network. That gain looks to be about another 200k'ish. We'll see how it goes when the full ANW9 series goes. I suspect it will plateau like all of them do after a while, but it's still very strong and not lower than 2nd place. Most networks will sell their grandma for that kind of consistency. I'm still worried they are watering down the brand.. that will come to play during the summer if it is indeed the case. For now though, execs should be VERY happy with the turn of events pulling Ninja from Esquire to USA. Whoever thought that was brilliant. As for Spartan.. I pray they changed the horrible format of the show for television. But that's another thread. (snip)... I could envision the main NBC picking up TNW and pairing it with ANW next year, like what they're doing with Spartan now. ETA: NO way in hell will they move TNW to NBC. None. Spartan is it's own thing. They don't call it an ANW sport, it doesn't even have the same announcers and they don't even hype the ANW people in there. Totally different franchise. TNW is a core Ninja spin off that was exclusive to cable.
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Post by arsenette on Jun 8, 2017 12:36:39 GMT -5
LOL I'm checking out the chart (updated - The Sked) and it seems they got a bunch of 50+ year olds that skewed the list. So when you compare it to last week.. the demo shifted pretty drastically.. from young people to old people? Worth looking into for next week. LOL
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jun 8, 2017 12:45:35 GMT -5
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