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Post by zdude69closedrofl on Aug 14, 2015 0:46:20 GMT -5
So, this is probably a pointless thread, and feel free to call me out on it, but I'm a little uncertain on the state of Shin Sedai right now. Like, I'm not sure who all the members are, unlike with the All-Star group. I wanna say Morimoto is one of the members, but he's been around for a little while, so I'm not sure. I think Hashimoto used to be a member? Is Wreath Man or Hioki going to be inducted? Kishimoto? I just need someone to educate me. It's for a project.
I know some official members are Asa, Kanno, Urushihara, and Matachi. Is there anyone else considered a part of it?
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Aug 14, 2015 1:27:22 GMT -5
I've always considered those 4 the only shin sedai. The rest are veterans (well except Wreathman who was a complete rookie bad*** who can hold himself against the course) Morimoto was said to be int he new generation but Shin sedai I don't think so.
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Post by zdude69closedrofl on Aug 14, 2015 2:22:07 GMT -5
I've always considered those 4 the only shin sedai. The rest are veterans (well except Wreathman who was a complete rookie bad*** who can hold himself against the course) Morimoto was said to be int he new generation but Shin sedai I don't think so. Like. I'm pretty sure I recall the announcer saying something about Morimoto being a Shin Sedai member during his Stage 2 run in SASUKE 31. Like right before the Backstream. He literally said Shin Sedai after mentioning his name. But it could easily just be a lack of basic translation understanding for me, who knows.  And yeah Wreath Man was rookie badass indeed. Hioki and Kishimoto are probably more veteran-like, yeah, kind of like with Lee, Okuyama, and Takahashi. |
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Aug 14, 2015 11:10:15 GMT -5
Kinda funny to me how the Shin Sedai were the 4 guys they chose because of their likeliness to beat the course (well I assume that's why they chose them), but Morimoto comes along and pretty much leaves them in the dust. Morimoto is that lone wolf.
But I wouldn't be surprised if they put him in the Shin Sedai for the next tournament
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2015 11:46:23 GMT -5
From what I remember the group was Yuuji Urushihara, Hitoshi Kanno, Kouji Hashimoto, Jun Sato and Naoya Tajima during the Shin-SASUKE and Kanzen Renewal eras, but then Tajima and Sato left SASUKE and Hashimoto was demoted due to the fact that he couldn't handle the pressure (which eventually led to him retiring as well), so we have Yuuji and Kanno who were carried over from those previous eras and then came Kazuma Asa and Ryo Matachi who based on their performances in 27 were added to the list (despite the fact that there were several others who did better than Asa). Then Morimoto bedazzled everybody in 29 and then he was apparently named a Shin Sedai as well.
Also, Wreathman is a foreigner so they'd lump him in with the foreigner group.
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Post by zdude69closedrofl on Aug 14, 2015 11:59:50 GMT -5
Wow, thanks guys, I'm a lot more informed now. Who knows, if Wreathman keeps competing, maybe he can be inducted as the 6th member somehow. Kind of like with the All-Stars. It'd be pretty kick-a**. :3 Although him speaking French could very well be a barrier. We'll just see.
And yeah, I knew about Tajima and Sato as well, but I figured they weren't relevant to the Shin Sedai's name anymore. .-. It'd be cool to see them compete again though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2015 19:47:44 GMT -5
Wow, thanks guys, I'm a lot more informed now. Who knows, if Wreathman keeps competing, maybe he can be inducted as the 6th member somehow. Kind of like with the All-Stars. It'd be pretty kick-a**. :3 Although him speaking French could very well be a barrier. We'll just see. And yeah, I knew about Tajima and Sato as well, but I figured they weren't relevant to the Shin Sedai's name anymore. .-. It'd be cool to see them compete again though. They don't normally add foreigners All-Star or Shin Sedai type lists. I think the closest he can get is becoming a foreign All-Star. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2015 11:30:53 GMT -5
I think Urushihara should be considered an all-star. I mean come on, he's won not once but TWICE.
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Post by arsenette on Aug 26, 2015 16:35:48 GMT -5
Inui doesn't want to add to the list.. in fact he doesn't like having "groups". So IMO there won't be any overt additions unless TBS changes it's mind.
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Post by roy on Aug 28, 2015 3:31:17 GMT -5
^I sort of agree with that mindset. However, (personally) there were guys the Rising-era who made it for me the most enjoyable era to watch and had multiple stage 3 appearances. Kanno, Asa, Yusuke, Drew, Hioki, Kong and Kawaguchi. These guys set the bar to a new level for Sasuke and at least to me are synonymous with RISING.
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Post by arsenette on Aug 28, 2015 10:44:43 GMT -5
That's precisely the point. Inui realizes the trap that production can fall in by only focusing on a small group instead of focusing on the rising people for each individual show. For example, if he was hell bent on the Shin Sedai, we wouldn't know much about Anasatase because they would have had to devote more airtime to the Shin Sedai like they did the All-Stars. It is not without problems either as we saw how Stage 1 was edited where they sacrificed most of the show for the 2 celebs they thought would give them ratings.. but you see why they don't want to create groups. He doesn't want to marginalize nor box in a set of people who may or may not crack under the pressure.
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Post by zdude69closedrofl on Aug 29, 2015 16:04:15 GMT -5
Hmmm, the rising people for each showing. I guess in that context, the name "SASUKE RISING" makes a little more sense to me. But yeah, that's a good point of his for sure, I mean labels only kind of complicate things and put pressure on certain competitors, which I guess in a way is kind of how Hashimoto felt regarding the pressure. I feel a little more informed about the nature of the groups and other individuals now. ^.^ |
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Post by arsenette on Aug 29, 2015 17:19:17 GMT -5
Hey no worries. Everything we knew of how things worked during the M9 era are now gone. I'm still getting used to all the changes even if they are minor to the new era. I'm just glad the "Rising" is gone from the broadcast name because it was reaaaaaally causing confusion worldwide. I personally agree with getting rid of groups and just letting people pick and chose their favorites. Promote the ones that have been doing well, gauge popularity and then move on from there. Gives new people a chance when they have a breakout performance. ♥
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Post by zdude69closedrofl on Aug 29, 2015 23:01:20 GMT -5
Yeah, I mean as far as I know the All-Stars even retired their names back in 28, the first tournament regarding the "RISING" renewal. I'm pretty sure they just compete as regulars/veterans now, but never actually wanted to retire from the show altogether. Granted I still call them All-Stars because that's what I've been calling them and what I've known them as for the past decade I've been watching, but the new concept definitely makes sense. Especially considering that there are so many new competitors with stunning potential, along with the long-time veterans. ^.^
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And yeah Wreath Man was rookie badass indeed. Hioki and Kishimoto are probably more veteran-like, yeah, kind of like with Lee, Okuyama, and Takahashi.
