Amber
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Post by Amber on Mar 15, 2015 21:23:43 GMT -5
Remember the days when the rope swing was the 2nd obstacle and people were complaining that was too unfair *Sigh* No, but I remember when the Rope Swing was the 2nd obstacle and people were complaining the Bridge of Blades was too hard because it was in a + instead of an X. In hindsight I REALLY agree with that  Yeah. I remember 10 year old idiot me thought it would be HARDER if it was an X somehow... lmfao. |
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Post by dlee on Mar 15, 2015 21:49:40 GMT -5
I just hope they don't maim anymore people in their pursuit of the ratings. Can you explain this further? I honestly don't see how 1 really bad injury now constitutes ANW being an obstacle course of death. You said UFC but people break their necks in pro wrestling aswell and they aren't actually trying to hurt each other. Accidents & Injuries are a factor in almost ever physical activity. Trying to tact that on to NBC pursuit of ratings is such a reach. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 21:52:02 GMT -5
Oh come on... it's okay that they kept the obstacle, but they should've modified it like the nunchuck obstacle from ANW 5... At least the Nunchuck obstacle was safer and the risk for injury was minimal. |
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Post by peytonblitz on Mar 15, 2015 21:53:56 GMT -5
Despite all of the trouble with the obstacles and line it was an awesome experience. I got to meet Mesa, David Campbell (who I took a picture with under the place where Matt and Akbar announce), Yen (who I just said hey to while he ran to go to the course on day 2 I'm guessing to test if he remembers the short guy with his dad saying "Hey Yen" then him saying something along the lines of "What's up,"), a guy named Scott who I think is on the forums but did not ask, and a few other people in the winners circle on night 1. {Spoilers Bewarb }Anyone catch the name of the guy who cleared? Also congrats to David, Jessi, Tarzan, Kevin, and everyone else whose names I am drawing blanks on right now (sorry) on getting to Vegas and can't wait to see you guys compete sadly not in person though. |
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Post by KinnikuBanzukeÜberAlles on Mar 15, 2015 22:01:03 GMT -5
Not sure if anyone mentioned this but the Grand Prize in Vegas is now $1,000,000.00 Sorry not sure which thread this belongs to. I just hope this means that they'll stop watering down obstacles like the Ultimate Cliffhanger. Enough is enough. |
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Post by gt4dom on Mar 15, 2015 22:13:25 GMT -5
Its always going to be a watered down version of the japanese version, by about 6mm, which on a cliffhanger is HUGE Just to put in comparison see a rock climber (Lee) struggle like crap on it when people on ANW are barely breaking a sweat on it. I think we should just say ANW wants to make fans go WTF this season and so far they have succeeded, I will certainly be watching for these obstacles, so it is working. I just hope the other regions are fairer. Also: It doesn't add much prestige to the finals when more people will probably beat the finals first stage than the qualifying first stage...
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Post by KinnikuBanzukeÜberAlles on Mar 15, 2015 22:27:47 GMT -5
I don't like the new logo. It's not as professional-looking as the previous one. How does it look in person?
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Post by penguincatfish on Mar 15, 2015 22:45:41 GMT -5
So it was basically a race to the Hourglass. It kind of devalues or lessens the importance of the second half due to a crapshoot. They could've had another day of qualifiers and we'd still get more or less the same type of result. Seems like during internal build testing, the course designers threw in a giant unpredictable trampoline drop for the sake of it and the crew somehow had absolutely no problems whatsoever tackling it.
This artificial difficulty is to distract us from what would end up being another largely unchanged Vegas course... or to get the jump on Wipeout Extreeeeemmme!!!
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Post by thebobmaster on Mar 16, 2015 0:21:42 GMT -5
Despite all of the trouble with the obstacles and line it was an awesome experience. I got to meet Mesa, David Campbell (who I took a picture with under the place where Matt and Akbar announce), Yen (who I just said hey to while he ran to go to the course on day 2 I'm guessing to test if he remembers the short guy with his dad saying "Hey Yen" then him saying something along the lines of "What's up,"), a guy named Scott who I think is on the forums but did not ask, and a few other people in the winners circle on night 1. {Spoilers Bewarb }Anyone catch the name of the guy who cleared? Also congrats to David, Jessi, Tarzan, Kevin, and everyone else whose names I am drawing blanks on right now (sorry) on getting to Vegas and can't wait to see you guys compete sadly not in person though. From an earlier post in the thread, it seems the clear was someone named Nick Coolridge, who may go by the nickname "Modern Tarzan. |
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Post by VeryCoolAlan on Mar 16, 2015 1:51:08 GMT -5
I wonder how Kristine Leahy is in comparison to Jenn Brown. hot, she is hot matt |
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Post by davidcampbell on Mar 16, 2015 6:33:18 GMT -5
But it wasnt impossible and there is no time limit. Without saying anything about this season. There has never been a course with no time limit, generally if you stall too long between obstacles someone will tell you to get going and start counting down. Generally. |
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Post by davidcampbell on Mar 16, 2015 6:52:26 GMT -5
Tgf2k: Thank you for the compliment, I would love to educate you on your assumptions, however I cannot comment as to whether any of this even happened.
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Post by ninjavern on Mar 16, 2015 7:48:17 GMT -5
I'm not even gonna lie. I just knew Kevin, David, Yen, Melick & Arnold would smash the final and fight for time. Let's just say I won't be buying any Lottery tickets this week.
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Post by arsenette on Mar 16, 2015 9:11:29 GMT -5
I just hope they don't maim anymore people in their pursuit of the ratings. Can you explain this further? I honestly don't see how 1 really bad injury now constitutes ANW being an obstacle course of death. You said UFC but people break their necks in pro wrestling aswell and they aren't actually trying to hurt each other. Accidents & Injuries are a factor in almost ever physical activity. Trying to tact that on to NBC pursuit of ratings is such a reach. I was responding to the comments that it was acceptable that horrific injuries so long as the rest of the course was fine. I generally have issues with that mindset. We've had horrific injuries in Sasuke (Cough.. Drew.. Cough) but the difference with how they approach obstacles in Sasuke and NBC is fundamentally different. I am colored by the background information where the Japanese were not happy with how lax the Americans are with their obstacles. USA just wants cool obstacles and they honestly don't care if people get hurt since it only adds to the drama (and they will show it on TV) while the Japanese are horrified it happened and don't show it because they don't want to promote dangerous obstacles. It's just a different way of thinking because the focus is different. Some here LIKE the inherent danger of it all, I just don't happen to be one of them. ANW has had at least one huge injury every season and the potential is always there. Matt even makes light of it on the broadcast and the some viewers eat it up. That's what I meant by the maiming part. I don't like it. Accidents WILL happen, but NBC tends to relish the danger, raise the stakes making things harder and that's something I don't like. I don't need a show to be "harder than Sasuke omgz". That wasn't the reason why I watch the show. I feel horrible for those guys who got hurt. So it was basically a race to the Hourglass. It kind of devalues or lessens the importance of the second half due to a crapshoot. They could've had another day of qualifiers and we'd still get more or less the same type of result. Seems like during internal build testing, the course designers threw in a giant unpredictable trampoline drop for the sake of it and the crew somehow had absolutely no problems whatsoever tackling it. This artificial difficulty is to distract us from what would end up being another largely unchanged Vegas course... or to get the jump on Wipeout Extreeeeemmme!!! I actually agree more with this. I wonder if it was as a result of the Kacy arguments last year online. The argument was "how can Regionals be this much easier when they were set up to fail in Vegas". So they upped Regionals to be line with Vegas so anyone who qualified had equal change to beat the Vegas course because Regionals was the same difficulty? Also HUGELY agree with the Wipeout Extreme connection. There's no way they aren't thinking of what obstacles will be on that. Wipeout in general always had high chance obstacles. Maybe it's because I hate high chance obstacles? I prefer obstacles that are not artificially difficult. I don't like flipping a coin in the air and hoping someone passes it. I'd rather relish on victory of something passing a difficult obstacle rather than HOPING someone prayed to RNGesus. |
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Post by RobbyMac on Mar 16, 2015 9:27:20 GMT -5
But it wasn't impossible and there is no time limit. Without saying anything about this season. There has never been a course with no time limit, generally if you stall too long between obstacles someone will tell you to get going and start counting down. Generally. I know you can't say how long but if you have between 30 seconds and 90 seconds it's doable. Even you probably think the Vegas course is conquerable if certain people get to stage 3/4. |
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Post by nehcney on Mar 16, 2015 11:48:45 GMT -5
Yen (who I just said hey to while he ran to go to the course on day 2 I'm guessing to test if he remembers the short guy with his dad saying "Hey Yen" then him saying something along the lines of "What's up,") Haha I think I remember that, I thought I was late so I ran from about half a mile away and was a bit out of breath. Great meeting you  Honestly I don't think they're going to raise the difficulty in other regions as well. Venice has always been the outlier. Calling it now, Houston will be extra soft! |
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Post by thatoneuser on Mar 16, 2015 12:04:08 GMT -5
But it wasnt impossible and there is no time limit. Without saying anything about this season. There has never been a course with no time limit, generally if you stall too long between obstacles someone will tell you to get going and start counting down. Generally. There was a video of Brian Arnold's finals run in Denver last year which showed a producer giving Brian a strict 30 count (akin to the SASUKE 3rd stage) on the Doorknob Arch. I can't help but feel they're a little loose on that rule sometimes... |
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Post by RobbyMac on Mar 16, 2015 12:21:02 GMT -5
Can you explain this further? I honestly don't see how 1 really bad injury now constitutes ANW being an obstacle course of death. You said UFC but people break their necks in pro wrestling aswell and they aren't actually trying to hurt each other. Accidents & Injuries are a factor in almost ever physical activity. Trying to tact that on to NBC pursuit of ratings is such a reach. I was responding to the comments that it was acceptable that horrific injuries so long as the rest of the course was fine. I generally have issues with that mindset. We've had horrific injuries in Sasuke (Cough.. Drew.. Cough) but the difference with how they approach obstacles in Sasuke and NBC is fundamentally different. I am colored by the background information where the Japanese were not happy with how lax the Americans are with their obstacles. USA just wants cool obstacles and they honestly don't care if people get hurt since it only adds to the drama (and they will show it on TV) while the Japanese are horrified it happened and don't show it because they don't want to promote dangerous obstacles. It's just a different way of thinking because the focus is different. Some here LIKE the inherent danger of it all, I just don't happen to be one of them. ANW has had at least one huge injury every season and the potential is always there. Matt even makes light of it on the broadcast and the some viewers eat it up. That's what I meant by the maiming part. I don't like it. Accidents WILL happen, but NBC tends to relish the danger, raise the stakes making things harder and that's something I don't like. I don't need a show to be "harder than Sasuke omgz". That wasn't the reason why I watch the show. I feel horrible for those guys And which major American TV channel wouldn't do this? Blame NBC this and blame NBC that. Different culture, different view points like you said. Doesn't mean to bury the channel who brings an awesome show most people wouldn't watch otherwise. |
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Post by vaughngk on Mar 16, 2015 12:38:10 GMT -5
The difference in difficulty of the city courses is probably determined by the quality of the competiors they expect to show up. Despite what happened last year the Venice region still has many of the best competiors of the five regions. Probably only surpassed by the Dever region and equal to the northeast/Midwestern region.
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Post by arsenette on Mar 16, 2015 12:59:18 GMT -5
And which major American TV channel wouldn't do this. Blame NBC this and blame NBC that. Different culture, different view points like you said. Doesn't mean to bury the channel who brings an awesome show most people wouldn't watch otherwise. I thought you were interested in the ratings analysis and was explaining based on that analysis over the past 5 years why the ratings are actually going down. My bad. As for blaming NBC - sure. I blame NBC for taking OUT Sasuke (which is still going) of the domestic line up. For fans of both shows that was a raw deal. ANW is going to do wtf they want regardless of the safety of the competitors. I happen to actually prefer having my competitors safe. |
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