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Post by RiderLeangle on Sept 2, 2013 19:06:51 GMT -5
No this isn't about their mistaken info, this is more a question I'm curious to hear everyone's opinion about. Does ANW count in the Sasuke timeline (now that they're completely separate events)? Like for example if someone sets a record time or wins, do you guys consider that the same timeline?
Also kind of applies to obstacle appearances (like for example saying the Spin Bridge has been in 4 tournaments)
Personally I feel it does despite some behind the scenes errors but that's just my 2 cents
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Post by arsenette on Sept 2, 2013 21:01:44 GMT -5
Even by TBS' standards they do not. You'd have to include every single trials show including Sasuke Trials, Sasuke Malaysia, Sasuke Singapore, etc. Even those who plan to do a 4 stage (like Ninja Warrior Europe) will be it's own thing and should be treated as such. It's a different pool of people (especially since all spin offs are region locked) and it changes in format just about every year lacking consistency. If you include it then you have to include Kunoichi in the same timeline since it follows the same format, but we all know that is not as it should be. Each has their own history to be respected and lauded. No need to crowd the main show's timeline with the spin off. Not only is it confusing.. it's not the same show. Hell.. we should include Viking since it had half of Sasuke's obstacles as well? How about Banzuke? See the disparity?
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Post by RiderLeangle on Sept 2, 2013 21:27:23 GMT -5
Even by TBS' standards they do not. You'd have to include every single trials show including Sasuke Trials, Sasuke Malaysia, Sasuke Singapore, etc. Even those who plan to do a 4 stage (like Ninja Warrior Europe) will be it's own thing and should be treated as such. It's a different pool of people (especially since all spin offs are region locked) and it changes in format just about every year lacking consistency. If you include it then you have to include Kunoichi in the same timeline since it follows the same format, but we all know that is not as it should be. Each has their own history to be respected and lauded. No need to crowd the main show's timeline with the spin off. Not only is it confusing.. it's not the same show. Hell.. we should include Viking since it had half of Sasuke's obstacles as well? How about Banzuke? See the disparity? Actually I was just referring to the vegas portion, the Midoriyama recreation, but I see your point. Like the reason malaysia and singapore aren't 'counted' is due to them being a trial and I wasn't talking about the trials portion, just the Midoriyama part. The reason I said that should count in consistency (I.E if history happens) is because it's the same basic structure replicated, ignoring the behind the scenes incidents like construction or last years stage 2 'clear' it's pretty much american Sasuke, same format and structure, Kunoichi isn't in that timeline due to both the fact it's not the general everyone can compete as well as the fact they've taken some rule changes in itself (besides 'kunoichi' 8, but how the first two only had 3 stages and how 6's stage 2 was a vs time trial or how some stages were split in timed and untimed parts, Viking was a similar factor of different style with all the 'this or that', split stages (mainly the adventure stage when the Heartbreaker was part of it) and the additional rounds like the brain ship stage and bio clock, and Banzuke was more isolated specific challenges, but you're right, I'm just rambling on about perspective here (since perspective is what this thread is about really). |
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Post by TCM on Sept 2, 2013 22:39:42 GMT -5
For ANW to count in Sasuke's continuity, it would have to be the same on the other end, and ANW since selectively chooses which Sasuke history to use (those rare situations when they do), ANW is nothing more than an American spin-off.
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Post by KinnikuBanzukeÜberAlles on Sept 3, 2013 7:49:27 GMT -5
ANW being a 2 day event, versus SASUKE's 1 day, is too great of a difference for me.
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Post by arsenette on Sept 3, 2013 22:53:53 GMT -5
It's not the same show Rider. Why are you having such problems with it? Are you completely ignoring Kunoichi? Why aren't we at Sasuke 37 then? That's a legit M9 show and it ran 4 stages WITH Sasuke competitors on a 4 stage course. It's separate. Nothing wrong with that. ANW is an American show that has had at the very least 6 different format changes.. so are you being picky and only going with ANW 4 and 5? Why not include 1-3? How about ANC? See the problem? It's ANW and that's what it is. No need to encroach on some other show's legacy to find legitimacy. Leave it alone.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Sept 4, 2013 3:37:59 GMT -5
I'm confused... I already said you were right... all I did was just explain my perspective prior to your post... Aaand explaining perspective again which hopefully doesn't backfire again... The reason saying ANW1-3 don't count is because they already are Sasuke consistent, Sasuke 23, 26 and 27  |
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Post by arsenette on Sept 4, 2013 4:26:25 GMT -5
I think because this question comes up at the very least once a season it's a topic that is constantly being debated. It shouldn't be at all.. perspective or not. |
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Post by VeryCoolAlan on Sept 4, 2013 21:58:29 GMT -5
Wait so if an american wins, then it wouldn't be 4 people that beat the course right? Since it's a separate show! I get it! Because then it would've been like 3 men plus however many women beat kunoichi! So yea anw is separate! Coolio
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