Gliding Ring calculations

[supersheep]

I've seen that a couple people at some point were wondering what the gap is and the height difference on the gliding ring. However, I never saw this question answered so using the same technique I used to find the gaps in the salmon ladder (see page 3 of the salmon ladder thread), I found the measurements of the gliding ring. These are not exact since the angle was not great and theres only 1 piece of data to go by, but within a reasonable margin they are.

Gap: 81 inches = 6.75 ft = 2.05 m

Height difference: 66 inches = 5.5 ft = 1.67m

The fact I got VERY close to a round number on the gap is promising. Based on this, the way to attack the gliding ring is to take off at an angle of 50.8 degrees.

By comparison,
Pipe Slider 17:
Gap: 48 inches = 4 feet = 1.2 meters
Height difference = 70 inches = 5 feet 10 inches = 1.8 meters
Therefore the proper angel to take off would be 35 degrees, much easier!

Update: I just re-tested by method using the spider flip which we know is 2m.
Using my technique I got 1.93m, which is only 3.5% off.

[bigblind168]

so u gotta swing urself 2 meters to get to the final stage... HOLY SH*T

[Ninja Chris]

I really wish I knew this kind of math... I honestly do...

[talledega7]

I'm not that bad at math. I do okay.

But if I tried this stuff (or the Salmon Ladder calculations), my head would explode.

[japantv1210]

Did you measure the height difference from the pole supporting the ring or the ring itself? I'm curious, because if you measured from the pole supporting the ring, that would mean that whoever makes it that far would have to jump at an even higher angle, since the ring would make it lower to, or possibly even below, the landing platform. Anyway, good work on the Salmon Ladder measurements and the Gliding Ring measurements. I exalted you ;D.

[supersheep]

I measured from the pole that the ring sits on to the platform

[Oti]

Which piece of "data" did you use to find all this out?

[supersheep]

Nagano's run in 21

[Oti]

How do you know your scales are correct?

[supersheep]

I know Nagano is approx. 63 inches tall. It automatically tells me what that equals on the screen, all i have to do is now draw lines to connect the gaps, which will automatically give me the x and y displacements, draw a right triangle and can easily find the distance of the line, and convert it back into inches by using Nagano height as the example.

It doesn't 100% accuracy, but it should be within 10% So the gliding ring gap is somewhere between 1.8 and 2.2 meters. Though since I almost hit 2m on the dot, I'm fairly certain that is it.

[Oti]

Ah, so you do what I do.

Well, I'm not impressed by all your math, and I honestly think you're way off on some things, but I buy this. I believe the gap is probably around 2 meters.

Luckily, the Gliding Ring doesn't even glide, making it nice and easy to swing and jump.

[bigblind168]

Feb 28, 2009 13:48:16 GMT -5 Oti said:

Ah, so you do what I do.

Well, I'm not impressed by all your math, and I honestly think you're way off on some things, but I buy this. I believe the gap is probably around 2 meters.

Luckily, the Gliding Ring doesn't even glide, making it nice and easy to swing and jump.

its actully better if it glides- less energy used, easier 2 swing, the notch is @ the bottom, so u cant go backwards so only the ring moves

[Oti]

I know it's better if it glides, but based on Nagano's run in 21, the ring doesn't glide. It doesn't move at all. You need to jerk it every which way to get down the track.

Maybe that's what they intended since that is much, much harder, but then the name "GLIDING Ring" is misleading. Then again, if you think about it, everything they make is tested several times to make sure it's humanly possible. If the tremendous friction were really a problem, they would have redesigned the obstacle.