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Post by thatoneuser on Jul 23, 2012 22:07:47 GMT -5
Just for the better.
Honestly, "one continuous cut" reeks of Criss Angel...
Although it wouldn't surprise me if they re-did the rope touchdown part to have him re-clear the wall, or if the clock was lying earlier in the run. Technically we haven't seen, start to finish, the unedited run.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 23, 2012 22:15:45 GMT -5
As much as I'm usually the first to call bulls**t on cuts to the audience, I'm sure he did clear... based on one little bit, the buzzer, it started at the exact same time as it did in the cam video, and counting the seconds with the buzzer, he did cut it very close but it looks like he made it, I think the detail about the audience seeing a glitchy clock is what happened... Since there was confusion in the audience, perspective is everything, and with people talking about thinking he timed out I can see how that exploded into controversy...
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Post by vysbking7 on Jul 23, 2012 22:16:35 GMT -5
Legitimate until definitive proof is shown to disprove, until then stop with this he/she said heresay stuff
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Post by vysbking7 on Jul 23, 2012 22:18:40 GMT -5
As much as I'm usually the first to call bulls**t on cuts to the audience, I'm sure he did clear... based on one little bit, the buzzer, it started at the exact same time as it did in the cam video, and counting the seconds with the buzzer, he did cut it very close but it looks like he made it, I think the detail about the audience seeing a glitchy clock is what happened... Since there was confusion in the audience, perspective is everything, and with people talking about thinking he timed out I can see how that exploded into controversy... Great, reasonable point. Arsennete is not gonna like you saying it wasnt a conspiracy though, she likes to believe that something is rigged without a shred of proof except heresay.
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Post by arsenette on Jul 23, 2012 22:20:58 GMT -5
As much as I'm usually the first to call bulls**t on cuts to the audience, I'm sure he did clear... based on one little bit, the buzzer, it started at the exact same time as it did in the cam video, and counting the seconds with the buzzer, he did cut it very close but it looks like he made it, I think the detail about the audience seeing a glitchy clock is what happened... Since there was confusion in the audience, perspective is everything, and with people talking about thinking he timed out I can see how that exploded into controversy... Great, reasonable point. Arsennete is not gonna like you saying it wasnt a conspiracy though, she likes to believe that something is rigged without a shred of proof except heresay. Stop speaking for me. I got the proof needed.. the dozens of people who were there with multiple videos to prove it. They can't post it online or NBC will slam them with a Million dollar fine. But apparently that's okay since you prefer to think I'm some sort of evil b**** who cares nothing for this franchise. Who's the one that actively promoted this show up until the 22nd of April?
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Post by TCM on Jul 23, 2012 22:20:58 GMT -5
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Post by vysbking7 on Jul 23, 2012 22:24:23 GMT -5
Great, reasonable point. Arsennete is not gonna like you saying it wasnt a conspiracy though, she likes to believe that something is rigged without a shred of proof except heresay. Stop speaking for me. I got the proof needed.. the dozens of people who were there with multiple videos to prove it. They can't post it online or NBC will slam them with a Million dollar fine. But apparently that's okay since you prefer to think I'm some sort of evil b*tch who cares nothing for this franchise. Who's the one that actively promoted this show up until the 22nd of April? It is seriously pathetic you cant provide a scrap of proof and there is plenty of people agreeing this was legitimate, like TCM said it was probably a glitchy tower clock, there is no reason to believe this was fixed, besides your reliable sources that are not here and have no proof lol
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Post by r34gtr on Jul 23, 2012 22:57:28 GMT -5
Arsenette's a [censored out of respect] because she introduced me and hundreds if not thousands to the true side of SASUKE, not just the crap that G4 puts out?
Something was up. I thought that buzzer would go out right before he hit the button... a Kinnikun Nakayama in 11 moment.
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Post by vysbking7 on Jul 23, 2012 23:02:53 GMT -5
Arsenette's a [censored out of respect] because she introduced me and hundreds if not thousands to the true side of SASUKE, not just the crap that G4 puts out? Something was up. I thought that buzzer would go out right before he hit the button... a Kinnikun Nakayama in 11 moment. Why do you just assume something was up, plenty of people have cleared with minimal time remaining, Brian Orosco is one of them, enjoy these moments, they are few and far between. The human resolve is amazing (he cleared the final wall in well under 3 seconds), give him credit and stop assuming something is rigged with no proof
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Post by baronbk on Jul 23, 2012 23:15:55 GMT -5
Believe what you want. Its in the past so it doesn't matter who's right, it just matters how you're treating her. You don't know that you're 100% correct, so hold your tongue a bit.
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Post by TCM on Jul 23, 2012 23:22:28 GMT -5
This whole controversy/rumor is really just causing the opposite what it seems this forum was built for: a place to discuss a show we have a collective love for in a peaceful, mature manner. What's the point of calling someone a cu*t or a b*tch, because she has a different viewpoint than you? It just proves you can't have a real conversation with somebody because you're looking to get the final word, so you result to insults. I may have a differing opinion of this particular subject, but I respect her enough to not to resort to disgusting name calling.
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Post by dudesky1000 on Jul 23, 2012 23:24:12 GMT -5
This whole ordeal has just proven what I've believed for a while, that sasuke super fans are like rabid wolves when something non-kosher happens, they go so crazy they attack EACH OTHER.
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Post by Ghan on Jul 23, 2012 23:33:54 GMT -5
I have no horse in this race; I understand that it's very possible Brent could have timed out and the footage could have been edited to make it seem like he made it successfully. The moment I saw that the timer depended on whenever the competitor touched the slider bar, It was clear to me that they're playing a hand they created.
My problem is with arsenette and her primal need for ANW to be a flop because it effectively took over and outshined her favorite TV show. That's little kid-type stuff. If no one else sees it, I don't know what you're looking at.
And before anyone says that calling someone a c*** is little kid-type stuff, I firmly disagree. Sometimes people gotta get told 'bout they self.
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Post by The Chief on Jul 23, 2012 23:39:42 GMT -5
Arsenette's a [censored out of respect] because she introduced me and hundreds if not thousands to the true side of SASUKE, not just the crap that G4 puts out? Something was up. I thought that buzzer would go out right before he hit the button... a Kinnikun Nakayama in 11 moment. Why do you just assume something was up, plenty of people have cleared with minimal time remaining, Brian Orosco is one of them, enjoy these moments, they are few and far between. The human resolve is amazing (he cleared the final wall in well under 3 seconds), give him credit and stop assuming something is rigged with no proof I think you are misunderstanding this whole situation. After the Vegas finals, a lot of people were saying that Brett didn't clear. It wasn't just one or two, there were MULTIPLE, but they are under STRICT NDA rules that have Dr. Evil-style million dollars fines attached to them. Because of everyone's ignorance, we were under the impression that the clock that the audience has was, in fact, correct...Turns out it might have been wrong. After watching footage, it looks like it probably was. Now, on the other side of things, Elsie, you can be rather rash and biting to people. Watch that, it doesn't make you look as smart as you are. Now....MOVE ON! My problem is with arsenette and her primal need for ANW to be a flop because it effectively took over and outshined her favorite TV show. That's little kid-type stuff. If no one else sees it, I don't know what you're looking at. And before anyone says that calling someone a c**t is little kid-type stuff, I firmly disagree. Sometimes people gotta get told 'bout they self. As for you. Arsenette was never desiring for ANW to be a flop. Because, hell, in a few years, it might be all we have. She has problems with the way the entire shindig is run. It's not a desire for it to be a flop, but more of a, "This is wrong, CLEAN IT UP." Now...about your wording. Tonight was the 1000th episode of Monday Night Raw. Paul Heyman was there. He said something that applies to you. "Name-calling? That's what you resort to? Are you a child? That's what I tell my children NOT to do!"
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Post by TCM on Jul 23, 2012 23:47:56 GMT -5
I have no horse in this race; I understand that it's very possible Brent could have timed out and the footage could have been edited to make it seem like he made it successfully. The moment I saw that the timer depended on whenever the competitor touched the slider bar, It was clear to me that they're playing a hand they created. My problem is with arsenette and her primal need for ANW to be a flop because it effectively took over and outshined her favorite TV show. That's little kid-type stuff. If no one else sees it, I don't know what you're looking at. And before anyone says that calling someone a c**t is little kid-type stuff, I firmly disagree. Sometimes people gotta get told 'bout they self. With that bolded statement, I question how long you've been watching this show. ANW is the reason international audiences don't buy broadcasts much anymore. The UK buckled down and took Sasuke 27 sans the American competitors, thus, they paid top dollar for an incomplete and inaccurate broadcast, that's just ONE example. ANW is the reason we've had a tire crossing keep David Campbell from Sasuke 23, and ANW4 Vegas proves they've outshined nothing except their own incompetency because of this controversy in the first place. And if we're getting "Told 'bout they self", you come off as a dumbass, a prick and I personally would like to see 100% as opposed to 90%, but I'm not an admin.
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Post by baronbk on Jul 23, 2012 23:49:48 GMT -5
Oh, they claimed that the clock started when they touched the bar? Hahaha. Silly TV and how it differs from real life.
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Post by Ghan on Jul 23, 2012 23:55:11 GMT -5
Why do you just assume something was up, plenty of people have cleared with minimal time remaining, Brian Orosco is one of them, enjoy these moments, they are few and far between. The human resolve is amazing (he cleared the final wall in well under 3 seconds), give him credit and stop assuming something is rigged with no proof I think you are misunderstanding this whole situation. After the Vegas finals, a lot of people were saying that Brett didn't clear. It wasn't just one or two, there were MULTIPLE, but they are under STRICT NDA rules that have Dr. Evil-style million dollars fines attached to them. Because of everyone's ignorance, we were under the impression that the clock that the audience has was, in fact, correct...Turns out it might have been wrong. After watching footage, it looks like it probably was. Now, on the other side of things, Elsie, you can be rather rash and biting to people. Watch that, it doesn't make you look as smart as you are. Now....MOVE ON! My problem is with arsenette and her primal need for ANW to be a flop because it effectively took over and outshined her favorite TV show. That's little kid-type stuff. If no one else sees it, I don't know what you're looking at. And before anyone says that calling someone a c**t is little kid-type stuff, I firmly disagree. Sometimes people gotta get told 'bout they self. As for you. Arsenette was never desiring for ANW to be a flop. Because, hell, in a few years, it might be all we have. She has problems with the way the entire shindig is run. It's not a desire for it to be a flop, but more of a, "This is wrong, CLEAN IT UP." Now...about your wording. Tonight was the 1000th episode of Monday Night Raw. Paul Heyman was there. He said something that applies to you. "Name-calling? That's what you resort to? Are you a child? That's what I tell my children NOT to do!" See the bottom of my post for the rebuttal about my wording. As for what else you wrote: So you just type up some things and that's what arsenette thinks, huh? Everything I've seen from her since I ran across her username next to a condescending, emoticon-filled post a year ago points to the contrary.
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Post by Ghan on Jul 23, 2012 23:59:34 GMT -5
I have no horse in this race; I understand that it's very possible Brent could have timed out and the footage could have been edited to make it seem like he made it successfully. The moment I saw that the timer depended on whenever the competitor touched the slider bar, It was clear to me that they're playing a hand they created. My problem is with arsenette and her primal need for ANW to be a flop because it effectively took over and outshined her favorite TV show. That's little kid-type stuff. If no one else sees it, I don't know what you're looking at. And before anyone says that calling someone a c**t is little kid-type stuff, I firmly disagree. Sometimes people gotta get told 'bout they self. With that bolded statement, I question how long you've been watching this show. ANW is the reason international audiences don't buy broadcasts much anymore. The UK buckled down and took Sasuke 27 sans the American competitors, thus, they paid top dollar for an incomplete and inaccurate broadcast, that's just ONE example. ANW is the reason we've had a tire crossing keep David Campbell from Sasuke 23, and ANW4 Vegas proves they've outshined nothing except their own incompetency because of this controversy in the first place. And if we're getting "Told 'bout they self", you come off as a dumbass, a prick and I personally would like to see 100% as opposed to 90%, but I'm not an admin. I hope you enjoy your disdain for a TV show you post so vehemently about.
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Post by vysbking7 on Jul 24, 2012 0:04:47 GMT -5
I think you are misunderstanding this whole situation. After the Vegas finals, a lot of people were saying that Brett didn't clear. It wasn't just one or two, there were MULTIPLE, but they are under STRICT NDA rules that have Dr. Evil-style million dollars fines attached to them. Because of everyone's ignorance, we were under the impression that the clock that the audience has was, in fact, correct...Turns out it might have been wrong. After watching footage, it looks like it probably was. Now, on the other side of things, Elsie, you can be rather rash and biting to people. Watch that, it doesn't make you look as smart as you are. Now....MOVE ON! As for you. Arsenette was never desiring for ANW to be a flop. Because, hell, in a few years, it might be all we have. She has problems with the way the entire shindig is run. It's not a desire for it to be a flop, but more of a, "This is wrong, CLEAN IT UP." Now...about your wording. Tonight was the 1000th episode of Monday Night Raw. Paul Heyman was there. He said something that applies to you. "Name-calling? That's what you resort to? Are you a child? That's what I tell my children NOT to do!" See the bottom of my post for the rebuttal about my wording. As for what else you wrote: So you just type up some things and that's what arsenette thinks, huh? Everything I've seen from her since I ran across her username next to a condescending, emoticon-filled post a year ago points to the contrary. Arsenette, word of advice, the faces are condescending and are what caused this argument to escalate (because you made it seem as if it is so obvious that it was rigged and you would be a retard not to see it)
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Post by japantv1210 on Jul 24, 2012 0:09:09 GMT -5
He would've easily cleared if those walls hadn't been so poorly designed. He could've easily cleared them if he could've just flung them over his head like the ones in Japan. It probably would've taken him 7 seconds instead of the 10 or so seconds it took with the ANW walls. So for that, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt lol.
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