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Post by mrbignich128 on Jul 9, 2012 0:46:57 GMT -5
Ryoga Vee really shocked the hell outta me with his performance. I guess that training with David Campbell paid off.
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Post by Ryoga Vee on Jul 9, 2012 2:02:25 GMT -5
Ryoga Vee really shocked the hell outta me with his performance. I guess that training with David Campbell paid off. Whats most frustrating is I go to the wall in 1 minute. I had GREAT time. And I never miss the wall. Its something on a good day I can do with my eyes closed. But there were two factors. 1: While it might have been the same wall from the regional, they used a new latex based paint on the face of it. Every time i hit my peek, my foot sliped. 2: I went to buy brand new shoes the day of the competition cause all I had with me were loafers (forgot to pack shoes. They were not broken in and only added to me having less traction than I would have preferred. I can do the wall. Believe me, its not an issue to me. But once again, when it really mattered, I came up short.
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Post by The Chief on Jul 9, 2012 2:19:18 GMT -5
BTW, did anyone else hear Matt say that Ryoga never attempted the WW?
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 9, 2012 8:00:11 GMT -5
BTW, did anyone else hear Matt say that Ryoga never attempted the WW? Well while has attempted it, it is true he's never attempted it in competition. If I remember correctly his results have been these ANW1: Rope Swing ANW2: Bridge of Blades ANW3: Jumping Bars ANW4: Pipe Slider So while he as attempted warped walls, he hasn't done it in competition
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Post by blah123 on Jul 9, 2012 11:23:02 GMT -5
I just wanted to give my 2 cents on the finals airing. I LOVED it all!! Although they weren't perfect, I was very pleasantly surprised at many things. 1) They are showing the runs in the same order they were done in real life (please correct me if I'm wrong on this). 2) The course looks freaking awesome! So what if it wasn't built to exact TBS specifications (even though they say they were), or if they have been safety-fied. Everything looks awesome at night and way more challenging than I thought. 3) The course looks way more difficult than I thought. I was thinking we'd have an American-in-Sasuke27 s*** show success rate (until spoilers started coming up), but clearly we aren't. Several shocking failures already that have been evenly distributed across different obstacles--Frosti, Jake Smith, Bull Bullard, Jesse Villarreal, Patric Cusic, Travis Graves etc., etc. (heck, pretty much anyone that failed is a shocker to me at this point). 4) The announcers (although far from perfect) are IMO better for the finals than they have been all season. They seem a bit more surprised and on-edge when a competitor has a near fall or something. 5) I'm diggin the new buzzer. 6) Love how they've been showing Nagano. I hope they profile him more in the later episodes. But still wishin they had Yuuji too 7) Love the choice of wildcards (except Patric Cusic). Most of all Ryoga Vee--props for getting as far as you did. I hope we get a wildcard that clears. 8) Love the color-coded regions. 9) They showed my course! It was the one Gunnar Bahn was shown training on. I could go on but I'll stop. I know many of you might not be as optimistic as I am, but I'm loving the new format. For me, ANW is finally for once starting to bring me feelings of nostalgia that Sasuke always did.
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Post by yamfriend on Jul 9, 2012 11:42:09 GMT -5
Just for the record, I'm pretty sure that guys like Patrick Cusic weren't wildcards; instead, they seemed to be replacements for people in the top 15 in their respective regions who were unable to make it to the Vegas finals. In the case of Patrick Cusic (who placed 17th or 18th in the Southeast region IIRC), there must have been a few guys who couldn't make it for the Vegas finals, so the 16th, 17th, etc. place finishers there took their place as alternates.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 9, 2012 12:09:02 GMT -5
1) They are showing the runs in the same order they were done in real life (please correct me if I'm wrong on this). Brian K was in the chat last night and confirmed they weren't in the right order in the broadcast 2) The course looks freaking awesome! So what if it wasn't built to exact TBS specifications (even though they say they were), or if they have been safety-fied. Everything looks awesome at night and way more challenging than I thought. I've been saying that from the start, the look is the one thing they got right 5) I'm diggin the new buzzer. Not really liking the buzz every second, it gives the sense of urgency but it's 1: Less accurate 2: more annoying 6) Love how they've been showing Nagano. I hope they profile him more in the later episodes. But still wishin they had Yuuji too Agreed, especially since most people there didn't even know he was there from what we've heard...
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Post by dudesky1000 on Jul 9, 2012 13:43:32 GMT -5
Can the Patrick Cusic hate stop please? This is ridiculous. He is clearly changed from ANW2, which was more of a reality TV show than anything thanks to dramatized boot camp, but he also showed a lot of heart and guts in ANW3. Seems everyone missed that. And yes, he was an alternate. Jeez.
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Post by lhii789 on Jul 9, 2012 14:09:26 GMT -5
Can the Patrick Cusic hate stop please? This is ridiculous. He is clearly changed from ANW2, which was more of a reality TV show than anything thanks to dramatized boot camp, but he also showed a lot of heart and guts in ANW3. Seems everyone missed that. And yes, he was an alternate. Jeez. I second that. This thread is about ANW4 Final at Vegas, not "Hate Patick All You Want" thread.
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Post by arsenette on Jul 9, 2012 14:47:38 GMT -5
Hey when this is over I want a Nagano only video I'm not watching (and you guys know why so I won't beat that horse LOL) but I want to see how they portrayed him.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 9, 2012 14:47:38 GMT -5
So I randomly skipped around a recording to make sure the download went ok... how did no one catch this... lol
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Post by KinnikuBanzukeÜberAlles on Jul 9, 2012 14:53:23 GMT -5
I liked the show from an artistic perspective, but the technical changes really annoyed me.
From the Rolling Maruta having only one bar to hold onto and its landing mat being so far out, to the Half-Pipe Attack landing log that leads to the Warped Wall being completely flat on the top and not like SASUKE where it's rounded like an actual log, I just don't understand the changes and I don't buy the safety issue for some of these.
I didn't like the klaxon blaring so frequently, and the base of the Warped Wall seemed flatter at the bottom than it is in SASUKE.
The most egregious offense was the gate opening for Dorian Cedars even though he timed out. That was ridiculous and proved that G4 and A. Smith & Co. are not only bush league, they're inept and incompetent at this type of show, and they deserve to be fired.
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Post by arsenette on Jul 9, 2012 15:03:34 GMT -5
From what I was hearing from some of the competitors the changes were made by people who knew NOTHING about Ninja Warrior and needlessly changed things because they thought they would soup it up. It's like reinventing the wheel. I'm all for adding elements on something based on knowledge and then there's this. Some competitors lost their motivation in competing before their runs and were not happy with the situation. Don't get me started on the 2nd stage but that hasn't happened so I will keep quiet. But having to stop and start to fix things during the competition because their own creations were failing or causing issues that shouldn't have been there in the first place if they just stuck to the gameplan are unnecessary and caused more problems in the long run. Then there's the slap across the face to the average viewer by lying that they DID stay with the original specs. Either own up to it or stfu G4. I think that's the part that grates me. It's not Sasuke's course. They screwed it up and they want us to buy their rewriting of history because they can't own up to their mistakes.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 9, 2012 15:30:05 GMT -5
I think the fact Nagano refused to run it says everything. As for the Stage 2 incident... You did see the part about the glitchy clock for the audience right, but then again if there's a situation that would cause controversy like that, it's just as bad as a false clear As for the course here's a list of changes to stage 1 for those like arsenette who refuse to watch. Step Slider: Steps are same texture as the Quad Steps, this has not proven to be an issue Rolling Log: Only has one handle, landing platform comes out farther than in Sasuke resulting in some clears that would not have happened in Sasuke (granted those same falls wouldn't have happened with proper handles) Giant Swing: Same, slightly more distance though, different default locking mechanism that does not alter obstacle performance Jumping Spider: Runup shorter (Brian Kretsch said 4' shorter), Trampoline slightly lower than runup, Landing area on walls is wood instead of the foam the real JS has Halfpipe Attack: Wall has more vertical section (Think more of a curved [ a opposed to the ( the real one is), rope hangs down farther, landing platform is padded and flat even on the round section, no jump to Warped Wall is required since the path section comes out to the end of the "log" section) Warped Wall: 14 feet of usable wall (As opposed to 13 in Japan), wall is less curved at the bottom, it's more like the Warped Wall from trials with a reverse incline section at the back instead of long flat runup Spinning Bridge: Balls are padded and slightly more spaced out Final Climb: Tarzan rope appears to be the same but the Rope Ladder seems to be mounted higher, people seem to end up low on it with normal swings, this was an understandable change though. The most egregious offense was the gate opening for Dorian Cedars even though he timed out. That was ridiculous and proved that G4 and A. Smith & Co. are not only bush league, they're inept and incompetent at this type of show, and they deserve to be fired. Oh good, I'm not the only one who was bugged to hell by that... That was just horrible how they opened despite him timing out... If they're that worried about people crashing into them they should use the rubber/foam ones they use in Japan, did the rest of the course use up all the padding they had or something...
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Post by arsenette on Jul 9, 2012 15:35:51 GMT -5
I think the fact Nagano refused to run it says everything. As for the Stage 2 incident... You did see the part about the glitchy clock for the audience right, but then again if there's a situation that would cause controversy like that, it's just as bad as a false clear That was not the only issue. I was referring to the zerging of the course where a bunch of people had reruns after they all failed the FIRST obstacle. They just ran again a couple times. The Execs were freaking out that they spent all this money on Stage 3 and 4 and were pissed no one was clearing to get to them so they resorted to rerunning people until they got it right.
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Post by TCM on Jul 9, 2012 15:41:42 GMT -5
I think the fact Nagano refused to run it says everything. As for the Stage 2 incident... You did see the part about the glitchy clock for the audience right, but then again if there's a situation that would cause controversy like that, it's just as bad as a false clear That was not the only issue. I was referring to the zerging of the course where a bunch of people had reruns after they all failed the FIRST obstacle. They just ran again a couple times. The Execs were freaking out that they spent all this money on Stage 3 and 4 and were pissed no one was clearing to get to them so they resorted to rerunning people until they got it right. That's 'Murica for you.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 9, 2012 15:44:42 GMT -5
I think the fact Nagano refused to run it says everything. As for the Stage 2 incident... You did see the part about the glitchy clock for the audience right, but then again if there's a situation that would cause controversy like that, it's just as bad as a false clear That was not the only issue. I was referring to the zerging of the course where a bunch of people had reruns after they all failed the FIRST obstacle. They just ran again a couple times. The Execs were freaking out that they spent all this money on Stage 3 and 4 and were pissed no one was clearing to get to them so they resorted to rerunning people until they got it right. Yes I'm aware of that... I thought that was the incident you meant with "ut having to stop and start to fix things during the competition because their own creations were failing or causing issues that shouldn't have been there in the first place if they just stuck to the gameplan are unnecessary and caused more problems in the long run." though... And even then... only one guy makes it to the end... Since the Slider Drop wasn't the only f***ed obstacle...
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Post by dcow on Jul 9, 2012 16:01:03 GMT -5
I'm confused were the stage 2 reruns due to obstacle malfunctions or them wanting clears?
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Post by Philip on Jul 9, 2012 16:04:07 GMT -5
I kinda half-blame TBS for all of this. Why didin't they come over and build the obstacles themselves? ?
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Post by TCM on Jul 9, 2012 16:27:54 GMT -5
I kinda half-blame TBS for all of this. Why didin't they come over and build the obstacles themselves? ? Being about 6000 miles might have something to do with that. Maybe they could have sent someone to oversee during the building process, but it can get expensive sending one person from the U.S. to Japan and back. Never mind an entire team.
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