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Post by dudesky1000 on Mar 9, 2012 19:48:22 GMT -5
If TBS is supplying the Vegas Course, we have to wonder what the actual course will be like. It will most likely be mostly from the most recent era of SASUKE, but there's no telling which exact obstacles they will use (especially if G4/NBC asks specifically for obstacles that create better wipeout footage).
However, if they do decide to go with near-identical iterations of each stage, which tournament would you like them to mimick? I would love to see 26's course back in action, just to see if anyone can get past the UCH.
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Post by yamfriend on Mar 13, 2012 9:50:14 GMT -5
I said 26's First Stage and 25's Third Stage. Those 2 were probably the toughest of each stage in the era, so I figure it would make sense to have those ones in favor of the "easier" versions of Stages 1 and 3.
Also, considering Stages 2 and 4 are identical obstacle-wise to what they were like in 25-27, the only notable differences I could see there are having 27's Stage 2 time limit of 90 seconds and maybe a 30/35-second Final Stage (30 is probably too little time, but I could still see it happening since Yuuji finished it in just over 33 seconds in Sasuke 27, plus guys like Ryan Stratis could probably finish a 20-meter rope climb slightly quicker than that).
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Post by RobbyMac on Mar 13, 2012 12:34:55 GMT -5
I voted 27 stage 1 and 25 stage 3.... Only exception, stage 1 time limit should be lowered.
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Mar 13, 2012 12:47:46 GMT -5
Ryan Stratis could probably finish a 20-meter rope climb slightly quicker than that. I highly doubt that, to be honest. |
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Post by dudesky1000 on Mar 13, 2012 13:13:58 GMT -5
Ryan Stratis could probably finish a 20-meter rope climb slightly quicker than that. I highly doubt that, to be honest. Yeah I actually asked him about that at the ANW boot camp in NJ and he wasn't too sure if he could have done as well as Yuuji. He said he's never had the chance to practice on a rope like that. |
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Post by yamfriend on Mar 13, 2012 13:27:51 GMT -5
I highly doubt that, to be honest. Yeah I actually asked him about that at the ANW boot camp in NJ and he wasn't too sure if he could have done as well as Yuuji. He said he's never had the chance to practice on a rope like that. In that case, a time limit of 30 seconds would be too strict. If Ryan personally says he can't match that speed, then I'm not sure who could (except maybe this guy, but that's another topic  ). Besides, 20 meters in 40 seconds still requires someone to climb at a very quick rate, so they'd probably leave it at that anyway. |
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Mar 13, 2012 14:12:50 GMT -5
I don't think many realise just how impressive and fast Yuuji's climb was.
He is the fastest rope climber on Sasuke (since Akiyama). I don't think anyone can beat his time, except himself.
Even if it was 35 seconds, he would have won.
I think the stamina aspect is overlooked.
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Post by dudesky1000 on Mar 13, 2012 16:09:05 GMT -5
Of course, Yuuji is just one of the few to even make it to SASUKE's Final Stage. We don't know if he's the best for sure, but he's certainly among them for all his training.
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Post by venomcarnage89 on Mar 18, 2012 23:19:55 GMT -5
I don't think many realise just how impressive and fast Yuuji's climb was. He is the fastest rope climber on Sasuke (since Akiyama). I don't think anyone can beat his time, except himself. Even if it was 35 seconds, he would have won. I think the stamina aspect is overlooked. With proper technique, stamina isn't as big of a concern as you might think. The proper form preserves much of your strength for a surprisingly long time and as long as the person is in well enough shape to get to Stage 4 in the first place, they shouldn't be that much more beat at the end of Stage 4 than they were before they started it. Also, Yuuji's time can definitely be beaten, though he is super close to perfect on his technique. I personally hope its 27's final stage with a 30 second time limit, its supposed to be strict and victory is supposed to be earned. 30 seconds is achievable without a shadow of a doubt but only to someone who truly masters the rope climb. 40 seconds is too much and they definitely made sure someone could win it by letting it be 40 seconds. |
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Post by arsenette on Mar 19, 2012 8:16:52 GMT -5
Btw given that ANW so far during prelims and semis has gone well into the night.. I'm now more hopeful that Vegas is going to run EXACTLY like Sasuke (one long day) rather than sleeping overnight and resting between stages. When you include that as a factor to the final stage.. that does change things. As usual when you considering how people think of Sasuke as individual objects in isolation.. having just stood in a field all day for 18 hours.. the final does make a difference. If TBS is running the show as with Sasuke they will determine the final time as they always do.. day of depending on the results of the testers. That's how they always do.
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Post by Badalight on Mar 19, 2012 8:49:40 GMT -5
The only reason the semis run into the night is because they wait until dark to start filming. They have some really awesome lighting set-up they wanted to fully utilize.
In LA it was because of a 5 hour delay on the log grip.
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Post by arsenette on Mar 19, 2012 9:47:54 GMT -5
The only reason the semis run into the night is because they wait until dark to start filming. They have some really awesome lighting set-up they wanted to fully utilize. In LA it was because of a 5 hour delay on the log grip. I'm sorry I meant that in previous ANW's I remember specifically they saying "omg we have to hurry up before darkness because we can't film". That's a distinct difference then doing lighting on purpose because they wanted it at night. I was afraid that they were not going to do a full on 100 up against a 4 stage.. in a row based on previous ANW's and their propensity to not film at night. |
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Post by TCM on Mar 19, 2012 14:03:58 GMT -5
Anything other than one long taping would cause a stir with SOMEONE. If people tuned out because they didn't like boot camp, they certainly wouldn't like hearing they let competitors rest for an extended amount of time which could mean the difference between a fail and a win.
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Post by dudesky1000 on Mar 27, 2012 15:39:55 GMT -5
Daaang people wanna see some pain with SASUKE 25's Third Stage. I would vote for that too but I like Cycling Road too much! I wonder if any American COULD clear the UCH with 25's design.
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Post by arsenette on Mar 27, 2012 16:05:23 GMT -5
.. I happen to love the Sasuke 17 final.. I may be in the minority on that.. but I love that final  Anything else (meaning other stages.. ) I really am not attached either way  |
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Mar 27, 2012 16:07:35 GMT -5
^ You are definitely not the minority on that, Arsenette.
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Post by Badalight on Mar 27, 2012 17:40:21 GMT -5
No, in my mind the 5-17 final was perfect. It's a mad dash to the top like it should be. 30 seconds which is a short time limit, and the obstacles were fast paced. The spider walk is brilliant.
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). Besides, 20 meters in 40 seconds still requires someone to climb at a very quick rate, so they'd probably leave it at that anyway.
